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ThinkTank posted:He just won the Hart and Pearson, so yes? Lmao
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Sounds like he got cowed into taking less money over the whole gotta take one for the team thing. Man, McDavid is so afraid of ever seeming like he is anything but a party man. That idiocy where he insisted the team practice on a CBA mandated off day pretty much sums him up. If management implies he's being even slightly selfish, he immediately backs down. Just once I'd like the NHL to have a superstar that isn't afraid to speak his mind or put himself first.ElwoodCuse posted:Lmao I think being voted the best player in the league by the media and your peers means you have a strong case for being called the best player in the league.
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Jul 5, 2017 19:48
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I wish he would come out and say he's taking the maximum allowable and that he was going to take less until the lovely media pissed him off.
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yellowcar posted:You're thinking of Viktor Fasth. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesper_Fast Jesper too!
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Rotten Cookies posted:McDavid has poo poo tons of potential, but is he the best
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https://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/status/882673943227781120 Insanely good deal if true. e: https://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/status/882674157439275008
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Oh man McDavid you're an idiot. Those 3 UFA years he sacrificed at that cap hit probably cost him $12-15M. He's going to regret that when he's 60. What a lovely move by the Oilers too. They had a deal in place with McDavid's agent but they didn't love the number so sounds like they leaked it to the press in the hopes of shaming him into coming back to the table. ThinkTank fucked around with this message at 19:59 on Jul 5, 2017 |
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congratulations to oilers management on tricking a guy who is barely not a teenager into taking 1 million less dollars per year and framing it as "McDavid was uncomfortable with 13.25 million but 12.25 million is fine" and also for getting him to sign for 8 years and forego the poo poo loads of money he'd get as a UFA
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Jamwad Hilder posted:congratulations to oilers management on tricking a guy who is barely not a teenager into taking 1 million less dollars per year and framing it as "McDavid was uncomfortable with 13.25 million but 12.25 million is fine" and also for getting him to sign for 8 years and forego the poo poo loads of money he'd get as a UFA He is very much none too bright.
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ThinkTank posted:Sounds like he got cowed into taking less money over the whole gotta take one for the team thing. Man, McDavid is so afraid of ever seeming like he is anything but a party man. That idiocy where he insisted the team practice on a CBA mandated off day pretty much sums him up. If management implies he's being even slightly selfish, he immediately backs down. Just once I'd like the NHL to have a superstar that isn't afraid to speak his mind or put himself first. That stupid loving article and the mentality that surrounds it worked. Jamwad Hilder posted:congratulations to oilers management on tricking a guy who is barely not a teenager into taking 1 million less dollars per year and framing it as "McDavid was uncomfortable with 13.25 million but 12.25 million is fine" and also for getting him to sign for 8 years and forego the poo poo loads of money he'd get as a UFA
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The best part of Connor winning the Hart and Pearson was Sid's anger twitching.
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Chiarelli continuously proving to be the worst.
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This is a reminder that many, many NBA players have taken max salary but not a single hockey player has done it ever because gee golly gosh they're just such down to earth farm boys gotta sacrifice for the team yes siree types.
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https://twitter.com/DimFilipovic/status/882676550977544192
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It's official. 8 years, $12.5 mil AAV. 
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yellowcar posted:You're thinking of Viktor Fasth. jesper fast(h) used to spell it that way at the time he was drafted and for maybe a year or two after that, but then he changed it
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Crosby had better P/60 and better CF% than McDavid. If Crosby is more productive and drives more possession, how is McDavid better? Bc he's faster and his teammates are worse??? Smdh
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McDavid will eclipse Crosby soon enough but it ain't happened yet. I don't think it's insane to suggest Karlsson is at or near Crosby's level though, dude is insanely good and also plays 5 more minutes a game
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Sharks Eat Bear posted:Crosby had better P/60 and better CF% than McDavid. If Crosby is more productive and drives more possession, how is McDavid better? Bc he's faster and his teammates are worse??? Smdh More trophies = Better than
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ThinkTank posted:This is a reminder that many, many NBA players have taken max salary but not a single hockey player has done it ever because gee golly gosh they're just such down to earth farm boys gotta sacrifice for the team yes siree types. Yeah hockey rules
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Sharks Eat Bear posted:Crosby had better P/60 and better CF% than McDavid. If Crosby is more productive and drives more possession, how is McDavid better? Bc he's faster and his teammates are worse??? Smdh Let's see how Crosby does with a possession and scoring black hole in Kris Russell out on the ice with him. 
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*whiny bitch voice* crosby scores 0.13 more points per 60 minutes
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Sharks Eat Bear posted:Crosby had better P/60 and better CF% than McDavid. If Crosby is more productive and drives more possession, how is McDavid better? Bc he's faster and his teammates are worse??? Smdh Crosby had a worse corsi and fenwick at evens unless hockey reference is wrong?
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I thought it was unstylish to use cf% as an individual statistic. I'm not trying to be snide I have a very limited understanding of analytics and I accept openly and honestly that I could be wrong
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Kilza posted:Let's see how Crosby does with a possession and scoring black hole in Kris Russell out on the ice with him. Well he has Justin Schultz.
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what you guys are forgetting, and really have to keep in mind, is that if crosby and mcdavid played the exact same amount then crosby would score a whole extra point for every 10 hours of icetime.
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McDavid is ahead in P/60 in both even strength and on the power play, their CF% is basically identical and he is doing it with worse teammates
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McDavid's best advanced stat is being born ten years later than Sidney Crosby.
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McDavid has a formless potato face, Sidney Crosby looks like a generic create-a-player, while Erik Karlsson looks like a pirate Know which one I'm going with
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The best advanced stat is mcdavid does not play for the demon Pittsburgh penguins.
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Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:Crosby had a worse corsi and fenwick at evens unless hockey reference is wrong? O ya I was looking at All Situations not Even The Golden Man posted:I thought it was unstylish to use cf% as an individual statistic. I'm not trying to be snide I have a very limited understanding of analytics and I accept openly and honestly that I could be wrong Ya that's fair. I don't mind using it over the course of a whole season cuz there's a big enough sample, but it's better as a team stat Jamwad Hilder posted:*whiny bitch voice* crosby scores 0.13 more points per 60 minutes Suck on this!
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everybody knows sidney crosby is the greatest leader of men in the national hockey league, lets see you put a stat on that nerds
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We know Crosby and McDavid drive play for their teams so I think CF% is a safe measure between them. Like I wouldn't put much stock in Chris Kunitz's CF% back when he was Crosby's #1 winger, but I feel safe in saying that Crosby is a primary contributor to that stat when he's on the ice.
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The Oilers are poo poo and McDavid is a big idiot.
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bewbies posted:why in the gently caress do millionaire professional athletes willingly offer charity to billionaire owners People are applauding McDavid for giving $6M (and in reality far more) back to a guy worth $4bn who just had the city of Edmonton spend $600m on a stadium for his personal use.
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eXXon posted:After taking a look at Marleau's stats over the last 3 years, he has not been especially good. Scoring rates peg him at a low-end second liner/good third liner getting largely undeserved first line minutes. He spent a bunch of time on the PK and was near league-worst in GA and CA/60 - almost as bad as Hyman, who has a completely undeserved reputation as a great PKer. Last season he barely managed to produce at a better rate than Komarov and Brown on the PP. Babcock loving loves the poo poo out of Marleau and I suspect that factored into the deal. ThinkTank posted:Unlike Hyman, Marleau is almost a sure bet to get progressively (some might even say horrifically) worse over the length of his contract! He can really pull the rug out from under you by sucking tremendously starting as early as 2017-18.
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Best thing about McDavid is the fact that he is 100% the exact same as Crosby. Oh and Oilers management gonna ruin him.
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