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I have a hard time believing Seagal ever had "fans". Of course he was already rapidly descending towards his modern reputation as a fat mumu wearing rear end in a top hat by the time I became aware of him.
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He basically had the same career trajectory as JCVD: was hot poo poo in the late 80s and early 90s, let his ego take over, proceeded to not be hot poo poo. Unlike JCVD, though, Seagal never pulled his head out of his rear end, never learned how to act, and never developed a sense of humor, so while JCVD's being finally let out of movie jail, Seagal's serving a life sentence.
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Jul 5, 2017 22:54
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Yeah, if you're gonna have Stallone's ego you basically need a Rocky and Rambo to back it up. Or become more self-aware like JCVD.
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Jul 5, 2017 23:00
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Those Seagal MadTV skits were great.
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Jul 5, 2017 23:04
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All this action star ego talk reminds me of how Keanu Reeves has been starring in action movies for 25+ years without any of those issues. Almost quietly too, I bet most people don't think about how long ago 1991 was(Point Break).
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Basebf555 posted:All this action star ego talk reminds me of how Keanu Reeves has been starring in action movies for 25+ years without any of those issues. Almost quietly too, I bet most people don't think about how long ago 1991 was(Point Break). It's pretty heartening that the general opinion of Reeves has turned around from "Whoa"/surfer dude jokes to considering him a good dude who makes dope movies.
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Jul 5, 2017 23:06
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There's a very good documentary about Toshiro Mifune on Netflix right now and the narrator was real familiar. I looked it up and it was Keanu. Dude's got a real nice voice.
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Jul 5, 2017 23:13
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Doesn't he also narrate that doc about film vs digital?
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LesterGroans posted:It's pretty heartening that the general opinion of Reeves has turned around from "Whoa"/surfer dude jokes to considering him a good dude who makes dope movies. I mean, I personally felt that way about him even before John Wick, a lot of that probably has to do with my love for Coppola's Dracula. His performance in that never really bothered me for some reason. John Wick was such an amazing surprise though, it's been so much fun to watch Reeves burst back into the scene like that.
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Jul 5, 2017 23:16
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Apparently Reeves is a genuinely nice guy irl and has little to no ego and no role is too small for him while giving it his ding dang best at all times
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Jul 5, 2017 23:18
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Basebf555 posted:All this action star ego talk reminds me of how Keanu Reeves has been starring in action movies for 25+ years without any of those issues. Almost quietly too, I bet most people don't think about how long ago 1991 was(Point Break). Keanu Reeves seems a little too... versatile for me to really put him in the action star category. Maybe about a third of his filmography, at most, is action stuff.
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LesterGroans posted:It's pretty heartening that the general opinion of Reeves has turned around from "Whoa"/surfer dude jokes to considering him a good dude who makes dope movies. I don't care how many duds he has made or will make in the future. Keanu Reeves has had a lifetime pass since Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure
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Jul 5, 2017 23:23
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I got really annoyed with all the advertising for The Day the Earth Stood Still remake. He seemed like he was at peak wooden acting there. Maybe that was the point, but I really hated all those ads. Also, 47 Ronin looked terrible.
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Jul 5, 2017 23:28
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Casimir Radon posted:I got really annoyed with all the advertising for The Day the Earth Stood Still remake. He seemed like he was at peak wooden acting there. Maybe that was the point, but I really hated all those ads. He was supposed to be an inhuman space alien that was distant from humans while trying to impose his will on them. Movie still stinks even if the casting was perfect.
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Jul 5, 2017 23:32
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47 Ronin was really bad, yea. He's definitely shown he's capable of making bad movies.
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Calaveron posted:Apparently Reeves is a genuinely nice guy irl and has little to no ego and no role is too small for him while giving it his ding dang best at all times He's great in his small role in the Neon Demon.
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:He basically had the same career trajectory as JCVD: was hot poo poo in the late 80s and early 90s, let his ego take over, proceeded to not be hot poo poo. Isn't he fairly popular in Russia for whatever reason? I remember when they added a Steven Seagal captain to World of Warships (terribly voice acted by Steven Seagal).
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wdarkk posted:Isn't he fairly popular in Russia for whatever reason? That should frankly tell you more about Russia than it does about Seagal.
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:That should frankly tell you more about Russia than it does about Seagal. They're kind of like Scientology in that aspect. "Hey you should check us out. John Travolta is a member!" * Runs far far away. Casimir Radon fucked around with this message at 00:39 on Jul 6, 2017 |
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LesterGroans posted:There's a really good book about Steven Seagal, his films and his different eras called Seagalogy Written by the only good film reviewer, Outlaw Vern.
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Basebf555 posted:He was already solidly in the direct to DVD arena by the time the whole "Steven Seagal, legit badass" t.v. show was airing. And he still is there to this day, you'll still find low budget action flicks starring Seagal pop up on streaming services regularly. Also, his whole career was the result of a bet. Some producer or agent bet another that he could turn anyone into a star. It's the same sort of process that gave us this song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKX1EY6dkIY Be warned that that's more or less the worst song ever. LORD OF BOOTY posted:He basically had the same career trajectory as JCVD: was hot poo poo in the late 80s and early 90s, let his ego take over, proceeded to not be hot poo poo. Speaking of JCVD, he's doing a retirement tour through his old franchises, resurrecting the Universal Soldier movies with two surprisingly excellent entries, and doing a new Kickboxer movie that stars at least 3 UFC champions, allowing George St Pierre to fulfill his lifelong dream of pretending to get beat up by JCVD. Calaveron posted:Apparently Reeves is a genuinely nice guy irl and has little to no ego and no role is too small for him while giving it his ding dang best at all times My understanding is that there's a few movies that pretty much only got made because he'll work for a much smaller fee than he's worth. Casimir Radon posted:Also, 47 Ronin looked terrible. Somebody on here gave the background on that movie. I wish I'd copied it, but it boiled down to endless rewrites, the budget going up and down, directors coming and going before some poor first timer gets it. For whatever reason, though, they just let that guy do more or less whatever he wanted. So you've got this mega budget movie that is, strangely, exactly what the guy wanted to make.
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Casimir Radon posted:Russia likes to collect washed up shitbag celebrities from the outside world. See: Seagal and Depardieu. Probably somebody else I've forgotten as well. Oliver Stone is who you're thinking of. And apparently Fred Durst has a house in the Crimea.
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Snowman_McK posted:My understanding is that there's a few movies that pretty much only got made because he'll work for a much smaller fee than he's worth. I know he's uncredited in Freaked, where he looks like a wolf man.
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Detective No. 27 posted:I know he's uncredited in Freaked, where he looks like a wolf man. *Dog Boy
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Basebf555 posted:47 Ronin was really bad, yea. He's definitely shown he's capable of making bad movies. Didn't 47 Ronin get weird reshoot/cuts after the studio saw it and Reeves wasn't in it at all
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Yeah, and they had to pay a bunch of extra money for that. It was after they fired the director after he had already filmed a bunch of scenes and had already done reshoots, so this film basically had a double dose of reshoots.
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sbaldrick posted:Didn't 47 Ronin get weird reshoot/cuts after the studio saw it and Reeves wasn't in it at all Yeah, despite his limited screen time being what Reeves wanted for the role the studio refused to release the movie unless his time was tripled.
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Reeves also directed a good action movie, Man of Tai Chi. He has a pretty good fight scene in it too.
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Basebf555 posted:Reeves also directed a good action movie, Man of Tai Chi. He has a pretty good fight scene in it too. The lead in that was one of the goons in the Chateau fight in the second Matrix movie. I like that a decent chunk of Reeves' post matrix career has been getting people he worked with on that work. Keanowns.
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:Yeah, despite his limited screen time being what Reeves wanted for the role the studio refused to release the movie unless his time was tripled. Was this the movie with the super badass skull tattoo dude with the revolver on the poster but he was only in the movie for like two seconds? Is there like a director's cut or something of the movie out?
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I'm going to love Valerian so much but it's going to bomb so hard.
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Snowman_McK posted:The lead in that was one of the goons in the Chateau fight in the second Matrix movie. I like that a decent chunk of Reeves' post matrix career has been getting people he worked with on that work. Tiger Chen is getting more work now. He's in some movie called Triple Threat which also stars Iko Uwais (the guy from The Raid) Scott Adkins, Michael Jai White, and Tony Jaa.
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Just on how awesome Keanu is chat, There's a video that's been around for a while about just how nice and non-ego Keanu is. He often takes public transit / the subway to get around and there's a clip of it where he gives up his seat to a lady or something who had a heavy bag. He also supposedly donates a huge portion of his income to charity.
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PotatoManJack posted:Just on how awesome Keanu is chat, He's also had a really tragic personal life. He's a good dude and I hope he makes tons of movies for years to come.
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He's also set for life. He got points on the gross of the Matrix sequels, and so doesn't have to work again, ever. As a result, instead of trying to chase another, bigger payday, he just does whatever. Oh yeah, and he gave a huge chunk of his fee to the special effects on the Matrix sequels.
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MariusLecter posted:Well that was a waste of money. Say what you will about the entire matrix trilogy, but the car chase scene in reloaded was really cool.
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I remain sad that Keanu's project to get a live-action Cowboy Bebop movie made failed.
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Godzilla anime teaser https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dF83zsTIMQ
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