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Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

Mr. Sharps posted:

she is a legit white supremacist and is taking the piss in that tweet also (she hates feminisms)

based on her lovely articles and stuff that doesnt seem to be the case

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anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool
warren is winning!

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool
(by about 3%)

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo
The biggest thing by far bringing lanyards like Matty the Redeemed around is that leftism is insanely cool and everyone in D.C. wants to be cool.

ded redd
Aug 1, 2010

Venom Snake posted:

The biggest thing by far bringing lanyards like Matty the Redeemed around is that leftism is insanely cool and everyone in D.C. wants to be cool.

i'm sorry venom snake but ted cruz still exists

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

Office Pig posted:

i'm sorry venom snake but ted cruz still exists

wanting to be cool =/= being cool old teddy trys so very hard with his retarded pop culture references but everyone still hates him lol

Donkwich
Feb 28, 2011


Grimey Drawer

Venom Snake posted:

I was at a fundraiser a few weeks ago where a guy asked me what was up on "crazy leftist drug twitter" he thought the chapo boys where actual drug dealers who worked for el chapo

they arent?

Mr. Sharps
Jul 30, 2006

The only true law is that which leads to freedom. There is no other.



Vox Nihili posted:

based on her lovely articles and stuff that doesnt seem to be the case

lol youre right i got her confused with the other crazy blonde twitter lady who is a white supremacist

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


Venom Snake posted:

The biggest thing by far bringing lanyards like Matty the Redeemed around is that leftism is insanely cool and everyone in D.C. wants to be cool.

meme magic is real

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler

Oh Snapple! posted:

i miss harvey birdman

i'm happy somebody got the reference

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WHiKshporM

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Oh Snapple! posted:

i miss harvey birdman

it was a drat good show

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

Agean90 posted:

meme magic is real

I mean if you define cultural shifts as meme magic okay

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

Oh Snapple!
Dec 27, 2005

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKbGnzmidsw

this will basically always be my favorite harvey birdman segment

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

Is this the egg that the absolute boy gets

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



wasnt it chairs that was for earners

Oh Snapple!
Dec 27, 2005

Shear Modulus posted:

wasnt it chairs that was for earners

it's both!!

Rand alPaul
Feb 3, 2010

by Nyc_Tattoo
I still don't trust Matty Yglesias, he's going to stab Noble Bernard in the back.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Oh Snapple! posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKbGnzmidsw

this will basically always be my favorite harvey birdman segment

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7gEZcK_9VY

mentok for life

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

Rand alPaul posted:

I still don't trust Matty Yglesias, he's going to stab Noble Bernard in the back.

in 6 years matty will indeed be stabbing president bernard in the back--from the left!

original story, do not steal

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


comrade matty will be at the head of the vanguard

Man Musk
Jan 13, 2010

Venom Snake posted:

edit: literally one of the arguments people made for Ossof was that he's a good looking boy which should help him get votes :downs:

That's what political scientists refer to as the Silent Protagonist Theory.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Wraith of J.O.I. posted:

fish hook theory looking solid here, joy supports the contras?

https://twitter.com/joyannreid/status/882720575680073729

Bernard Sanders supporting the Sandinistas is a + in my book.

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007
Holy guacamole there are some brain damaged libs in that thread

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Homeless Friend posted:

Holy guacamole there are some brain damaged libs in that thread

https://twitter.com/howardzinn22/status/882797515208314881

:discourse:

Man Musk
Jan 13, 2010

Bernie Sanders runs oblique to winning most elections

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006


oh good more bad dems

navyjack
Jul 15, 2006



zegermans posted:

oh good more bad dems

I'm a veteran and I'm a good dem!!!

Neeksy
Mar 29, 2007

Hej min vän, hur står det till?
I could see recruiting them in that many members of the military are essentially promised the benefits of socialism in return for service, and that many of those promises have been completely undercut by the very people who adorn themselves in faux-patriotism the most. But that's assuming the Dems in question actually believe in some kind of political/social message and instead just want to be seen as the military-approved party.

HiHo ChiRho
Oct 23, 2010

Office Pig posted:

for a second i thought this was that crazy Mormon quiverful creep

nah, just another LAWYER with a POLITICAL SCIENCE degree

https://twitter.com/wokieleaksalt/status/872555775813718016?lang=en

white sauce
Apr 29, 2012

by R. Guyovich

Venom Snake posted:

Actual conversation iv had:

"When it comes to campaigning it's going to be really important to articulate a better future that involves things that directly affect people rather than abstract appeals to moderation or niche federal policy issues"

"But I'm not an expert on economics and health insurance; I'm qualified to talk about national security"

"People fundamentally recognize things like single payer and universal basic income as good. You don't need to be an expert to make a moral appeal to voters. The GOP does this all the time"

"I don't see how going farther to the left is going to win us any elections in this current political atmosphere"

[insert back and forth over Ossofs numbers versus Quists]

"It's not about where it falls on a left right axis. It's about advocating for things that will DIRECTLY make peoples lives better. That has much farther reach than "I will stand up to evil foreigners""

This went on for 3 loving hours :shepicide:

Sounds like you were talking to Hillary, tbqh. But seriously though,

That person shouldn't be in the Democratic Party, hth

I'm a veteran that believes in UBI, non-interventionism, universal healthcare, 30 days of paid vacation a year for workers, lowering taxes for poor families, gay rights, protecting immigrants, and the list goes on

But all these things were seen as bad and "idealistic" just a few months ago

Well now the Dems are printing stickers with stupid slogans on them. I'd say it's too late for you and your party.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/Julie_Johnsoned/status/882731445239918594

The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

https://twitter.com/boyCrzyBrnieGrl/status/882798445723095041

The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
also how did you doofs miss the sickest burn against those lameass dccc stickers

https://twitter.com/NRCC/status/882700044251652101

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
if you're getting dunked on by the bow tie dweebs at the nrcc it's one to resign

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

The Muppets On PCP posted:

also how did you doofs miss the sickest burn against those lameass dccc stickers

https://twitter.com/NRCC/status/882700044251652101

:vince:

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

iron stache needs to get coached fast b/c he falls apart here

single payer should be easy as hell to justify

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
Today in Poland, courtesy of the EE thread:

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gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
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[New York Times Op-Ed]

Back to the Center, Democrats

By MARK PENN and ANDREW STEIN

quote:

The path back to power for the Democratic Party today, as it was in the 1990s, is unquestionably to move to the center and reject the siren calls of the left, whose policies and ideas have weakened the party.

In the early 1990s, the Democrats relied on identity politics, promoted equality of outcomes instead of equality of opportunity and looked to find a government solution for every problem. After years of leftward drift by the Democrats culminated in Republican control of the House under Speaker Newt Gingrich, President Bill Clinton moved the party back to the center in 1995 by supporting a balanced budget, welfare reform, a crime bill that called for providing 100,000 new police officers and a step-by-step approach to broadening health care. Mr. Clinton won a resounding re-election victory in 1996 and Democrats were back.

But the last few years of the Obama administration and the 2016 primary season once again created a rush to the left. Identity politics, class warfare and big government all made comebacks. Candidates inspired by Senator Bernie Sanders, Senator Elizabeth Warren and a host of well-funded groups have embraced sharply leftist ideas. But the results at the voting booth have been anything but positive: Democrats lost over 1,000 legislative seats across the country and control of both houses of Congress during the Obama years. And in special elections for Congress this year, they failed to take back any seats held by Republicans.

Central to the Democrats’ diminishment has been their loss of support among working-class voters, who feel abandoned by the party’s shift away from moderate positions on trade and immigration, from backing police and tough anti-crime measures, from trying to restore manufacturing jobs. They saw the party being mired too often in political correctness, transgender bathroom issues and policies offering more help to undocumented immigrants than to the heartland.

Bigger government handouts won’t win working-class voters back. This is the fallacy of the left, believing that voters just need to be shown how much they are getting in government benefits. In reality, these voters see themselves as being penalized for maintaining the basic values of hard work, religion and family. It’s also not all about guns and abortion. Bill Clinton and Barack Obama both won working-class voters despite relatively progressive views on those issues. Today, identity politics and disdain for religion are creating a new social divide that the Democrats need to bridge by embracing free speech on college campuses and respect for Catholics and people of other faiths who feel marginalized within the party.

There are plenty of good issues Democrats should be championing. They need to reject socialist ideas and adopt an agenda of renewed growth, greater protection for American workers and a return to fiscal responsibility. While the old brick-and-mortar economy is being regulated to death, the new tech-driven economy has been given a pass to flout labor laws with unregulated, low-paying gig jobs, to concentrate vast profits and to decimate retailing. Rural areas have been left without adequate broadband and with shrinking opportunities. The opioid crisis has spiraled out of control, killing tens of thousands, while pardons have been given to so-called nonviolent drug offenders. Repairing and expanding infrastructure, a classic Democratic issue, has been hijacked by President Trump — meaning Democrats have a chance to reach across the aisle to show they understand that voters like bipartisanship.

Immigration is also ripe for a solution from the center. Washington should restore the sanctity of America’s borders, create a path to work permits and possibly citizenship, and give up on both building walls and defending sanctuary cities. On trade, Democrats should recognize that they can no longer simultaneously try to be the free-trade party and speak for the working class. They need to support fair trade and oppose manufacturing plants’ moving jobs overseas, by imposing new taxes on such transfers while allowing repatriation of foreign profits. And the party seems to have forgotten that community policing combined with hiring more police officers worked in the ’90s — and it will work again today. It can’t be the party that failed to stop the rising murder rates in cities like Chicago.

Health care is the one area where the Democrats have gained the upper hand and have a coherent message about protecting the working poor from losing coverage. But the Affordable Care Act needs to be adjusted to control costs better, lest employer-sponsored health care become unaffordable. For now, the Democrats are right to hold the line in defending Obamacare in the face of Republican disunity.

Easily lost in today’s divided politics is that only a little more than a quarter of Americans consider themselves liberals, while almost three in four are self-identified moderates or conservatives. Yet moderate viewpoints are being given short shrift in the presidential nominating process. So Democrats should change their rules to eliminate all caucuses in favor of primaries. Caucuses are largely undemocratic because they give disproportionate power to left-leaning activists, making thousands of Democrats in Kansas more influential than millions of people in Florida.

Americans are looking for can-do Democrats in the mold of John F. Kennedy and Bill Clinton — leaders who rose above partisanship to unify the country, who defended human rights and equality passionately, and who also encouraged economic growth and rising wages. That is the road back to relevance, and the White House, for the Democrats.

It's kind of impressive how loving bad this is. If I wanted highlight all the hits, I'd end up bolding the whole thing.

gradenko_2000 has issued a correction as of 13:35 on Jul 6, 2017

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