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kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad
Floyd threw 36 punches per round in the Manny fight, about 12 per minute. With an accuracy of 34%, that's 4 punches a minute.

Conor over his career has landed 5.8 significant strikes per minute, at 47% accuracy, so also about 12 thrown per minute. Significant excludes light punches from the clinch or in ground and pound.
Note that Conor has mostly stopped his opponents early, so you could easily argue that his work rate over 12 rounds would be much much lower.

This all says very little about what either's work rate or willingness to work will be in their fight.

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Jack B Nimble
Dec 25, 2007


Soiled Meat
Are you going by the compubox that numbers that apparently separate power punches and jabs? I'm kind of curious when (if ever) compubox stats say a jab becomes a power punch. Is every lead hand straight punch at the start of a combination a jab in these stats?

Shirkelton
Apr 6, 2009

I'm not loyal to anything, General... except the dream.
It's spelt 'Conner'.

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad

Jack B Nimble posted:

Are you going by the compubox that numbers that apparently separate power punches and jabs? I'm kind of curious when (if ever) compubox stats say a jab becomes a power punch. Is every lead hand straight punch at the start of a combination a jab in these stats?

It's from Fightmetric (competitor to Compustrike), which allows for jabs to be significant strikes.

Jump King
Aug 10, 2011

conor will be tired out because in mma you can just lie down on the ground whenever you want

Power of Pecota
Aug 4, 2007

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!

Floyd is like three times as big as Connor

Snowman_McK
Jan 31, 2010
Conor will gas out because, despite being a small man and not having to weight cut, he was sucking air after 7 minutes with Nate Diaz. Then, after becoming a hermit and spending a fortune on his camp, he was able to extend that to 9 minutes.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
wow MMA fighters are really lazy

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
MMA would be better if they hosed after the dominant one won their naked wrestling imo

Josuke Higashikata
Mar 7, 2013


how can boxing be as hard as mma they get 11 breaks between rounds instead of 4

lazy fucks!!!!

Marching Powder
Mar 8, 2008



stop the fucking fight, cornerman, your dude is fucking done and is about to be killed.

Jose posted:

MMA would be better if they hosed after the dominant one won their naked wrestling imo

that used to happen and was known as the 'winner takes ALL' rule but disappeared along with the one night tournament format at the advent of the modern era. 'human cuck fighting' they called it.

Snowman_McK
Jan 31, 2010

Jose posted:

MMA would be better if they hosed

Jump King
Aug 10, 2011

Josuke Higashikata posted:

how can boxing be as hard as mma they get 11 breaks between rounds instead of 4

lazy fucks!!!!

Boxing is just overall more taxing and difficult. Just all around better and more interesting too, but I guess that isn't relevant to the question.

Shirkelton
Apr 6, 2009

I'm not loyal to anything, General... except the dream.
Haha get this, what if they were fuckin GAY

willie_dee
Jun 21, 2010
I obtain sexual gratification from observing people being inflicted with violent head injuries

MMM Whatchya Say posted:

Boxing is just overall more taxing and difficult. Just all around better and more interesting too, but I guess that isn't relevant to the question.

No

boop the snoot
Jun 3, 2016

Jose posted:

MMA would be better if they hosed after the dominant one won their naked wrestling imo

that happens a lot in MMA don't you ever go to pornhub?

I.N.R.I
May 26, 2011

Jose posted:

MMA would be better if they hosed after the dominant one won their naked wrestling imo

true

Work Friend Keven
Oct 24, 2015

I'M A BIG STUPID IDIOT WHO GETS TRIGGERED FROM THE WORDS SPORTS BALL AND HAS SHIT OPINIONS ABOUT CARD GAMES. ALSO I SAID I WAS GOING TO QUIT HEARTHSTONE OUT OF SPITE OF A TAIWANESE WINNING THE CHAMPIONSHIP SO REPORT ME IF YOU SEE ME POST IN A HS THREAD
Legally if you cum in a MMA match you lose under the new ruleset but nobodys taken advantage of that yet.

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

c-spam cannot afford



MMM Whatchya Say posted:

Boxing is just overall more taxing and difficult. Just all around better and more interesting too, but I guess that isn't relevant to the question.

Boxing isn't remotely more taxing or difficult than full on MMA. That's just plain silly to even think.

Yes boxing has for more technically refined striking to fit inside it's restrictive ruleset. MMA striking is markedly different because there are flat out more things to worry about than just someone's hands.

Also actually grappling with someone is one of the most physically exhausting things you can do period, let alone punching and kicking at the same time.

Skip My Posts
Aug 15, 2005

by FactsAreUseless

Work Friend Keven posted:

Legally if you cum in a MMA match you lose under the new ruleset but nobodys taken advantage of that yet.

Bull poo poo rule

YOLOsubmarine
Oct 19, 2004

When asked which Pokemon he evolved into, Kamara pauses.

"Motherfucking, what's that big dragon shit? That orange motherfucker. Charizard."

Just like MMA, boxing is as tiring as your opponent makes it.

Work Friend Keven
Oct 24, 2015

I'M A BIG STUPID IDIOT WHO GETS TRIGGERED FROM THE WORDS SPORTS BALL AND HAS SHIT OPINIONS ABOUT CARD GAMES. ALSO I SAID I WAS GOING TO QUIT HEARTHSTONE OUT OF SPITE OF A TAIWANESE WINNING THE CHAMPIONSHIP SO REPORT ME IF YOU SEE ME POST IN A HS THREAD
I think boxing fans may have confused their sport (so easy even children and kangaroos can do it) with talking to them (extremely tiring).

boop the snoot
Jun 3, 2016

big money big clit posted:

Just like MMA, boxing is as tiring as your opponent makes it.

Oh so that's why Floyd just runs around the ring for 12 rounds

coconono
Aug 11, 2004

KISS ME KRIS

Who was the celebrity boxer that faked a heart attack and then sucker punched a win by TKO? Conor should watch that and learn something.

Loving Africa Chaps
Dec 3, 2007


We had not left it yet, but when I would wake in the night, I would lie, listening, homesick for it already.

Skip My Posts
Aug 15, 2005

by FactsAreUseless

coconono posted:

Who was the celebrity boxer that faked a heart attack and then sucker punched a win by TKO? Conor should watch that and learn something.

im guessing mickey rourke?

YOLOsubmarine
Oct 19, 2004

When asked which Pokemon he evolved into, Kamara pauses.

"Motherfucking, what's that big dragon shit? That orange motherfucker. Charizard."

TBeats posted:

Oh so that's why Floyd just runs around the ring for 12 rounds

Conor McGregor, shown here tiring out Nate Diaz with slick evasive defense.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uFqVZLG30kM

boop the snoot
Jun 3, 2016

big money big clit posted:

Conor McGregor, shown here tiring out Nate Diaz with slick evasive defense.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uFqVZLG30kM

i traveled to the future and brought back a clip of the upcoming match

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBc3H5Ln2K0

Michael Transactions
Nov 11, 2013

Triticum Guzzler posted:

Is there an audiobook version of the secret please

Yes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fU_5ijkeTTQ

Loving Africa Chaps
Dec 3, 2007


We had not left it yet, but when I would wake in the night, I would lie, listening, homesick for it already.

big money big clit posted:

Conor McGregor, shown here tiring out Nate Diaz with slick evasive defense.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uFqVZLG30kM

lol and people say ffloyd is boring (he is)

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

:jackbud:

Jump King
Aug 10, 2011

Mr. Nice! posted:

Boxing isn't remotely more taxing or difficult than full on MMA. That's just plain silly to even think.

Yes boxing has for more technically refined striking to fit inside it's restrictive ruleset. MMA striking is markedly different because there are flat out more things to worry about than just someone's hands.

Also actually grappling with someone is one of the most physically exhausting things you can do period, let alone punching and kicking at the same time.

Hmm... IDK... standing up and getting hit in the head for 45 minutes vs lying down and hugging somebody. Both pretty tiring I guess? I usually get sleepy when I'm cuddling, so I see where you're coming from.

I.N.R.I
May 26, 2011
Whats the point of arguing about which sport that you dont compete in is the most physically demanding. dont you all at least have something a little more personal to be smug about, like your deadlift prs or whatever ?

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

-Cheap Trick

Nap Ghost

coconono posted:

Who was the celebrity boxer that faked a heart attack and then sucker punched a win by TKO? Conor should watch that and learn something.

Kimbo Slice

The SituAsian
Oct 29, 2006

I'm a mess in distress
But we're still the best dressed

coconono posted:

Who was the celebrity boxer that faked a heart attack and then sucker punched a win by TKO? Conor should watch that and learn something.

Mickey Rourke and it owned hard.

TastyAvocado
Dec 9, 2009

coconono posted:

Who was the celebrity boxer that faked a heart attack and then sucker punched a win by TKO? Conor should watch that and learn something.

Unfortunately Mayweather has already mastered it.

Mean Bean Machine
May 9, 2008

Only when I breathe.

MMM Whatchya Say posted:

Hmm... IDK... standing up and getting hit in the head for 45 minutes vs lying down and hugging somebody. Both pretty tiring I guess? I usually get sleepy when I'm cuddling, so I see where you're coming from.

how does your boyfriend feel about that?

david carmichael
Oct 28, 2011

I.N.R.I posted:

Whats the point of arguing about which sport that you dont compete in is the most physically demanding. dont you all at least have something a little more personal to be smug about, like your deadlift prs or whatever ?

I once ate 6 hot dogs. The big ones

Jack B Nimble
Dec 25, 2007


Soiled Meat
So here's an actual question ; before big fights I like learn about how each fighter would win, and what it would look like when they're winning. You know, general strategies to watch for, things that should sound an alarm bell that you're seeing a fight work out as one fighter wanted.

Like for example, I think the earlier rounds are the most important for McGregor; his best bet will be to blitz Mayweather in the first round or two, hit him with something unusual and then follow it up with a hard finisher. So maybe look for McGregor to land an awkward but surprising punch and then follow it up with an entirely unrestrained flurry; likewise look for Mayweather to suddenly look old fighting a man 12 year younger. Be particularly worried if fast undercard KOs send them into the ring cold.

Now more likely, look for Mayweather to be very cautious at the beginning, stay well away from McGregor and avoiding trading punches. As the rounds go on and McGregor tires and his punches get sloppier and more predictable, look for Mayweather to counter punch.

What are some other possibilities? Neither fighter is eager to throw because they're both counter punchers? McGregor moving forward into closer range but not actually punching (I believe Mayweather has shown he's not at his best against that strategy)?

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boop the snoot
Jun 3, 2016
McGregor is going to eat a DQ and come out with a flying knee after the very first bell.

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