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Frijolero
Jan 24, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
I love that centrists think ~*~ multiculturalism ~*~ is super complex and just can't be figured out by anybody.

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Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNVi1wXPEto

Serf
May 5, 2011


hmm who should i believe, gnome chompsky or someone who comments on nyt stories

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy

Frijolero posted:

I love that centrists think ~*~ multiculturalism ~*~ is super complex and just can't be figured out by anybody.

multiculti is literally "don't poo poo in other people's cheerios"

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
Time too get tough on crime.

Terror Sweat
Mar 15, 2009


To be fair, it is impossible for a clinton to look to the left

white sauce
Apr 29, 2012

by R. Guyovich

GalacticAcid posted:

Time too get tough on crime.

It's what the people want :ohdear:

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice

Terror Sweat posted:

To be fair, it is impossible for a clinton to look to the left

fits my needs
Jan 1, 2011

Grimey Drawer
I like Noah Chompsky and that other Jewish guy that hates Israel

https://mobile.twitter.com/BillGates/status/881173298377355264

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Tight Booty Shorts posted:

So, Chomsky blames Obama for not being sufficiently progressive? Doesn't he know what is going in Europe? Doesn't Chomsky know about the fact that people in Germany and France do not want either a radical leftist or radical rightist government but a government focusing on practicality?

voting against gay marriage is practicality, wrap it up LGBT lobby

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Frijolero posted:

I love that centrists think ~*~ multiculturalism ~*~ is super complex and just can't be figured out by anybody.

I'm not really sure how Judaism is really that noteworthy a part of Chomsky's philosophy either to the point where he "cannot bear anything to do" with atheism despite apparently also being a Soviet tankie :confused: They kinda fixated on that a little bit

tfw ur so woke that u hate jews

(((Noam Chomsky)))

Serf posted:

hmm who should i believe, gnome chompsky or someone who comments on nyt stories

hey now, that person might be a lawyer with a political science degree

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
i think boomer dems really hate trans people and blame them for the 2016 loss

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


GalacticAcid posted:

i think boomer dems really hate trans people and blame them for the 2016 loss

Wha??

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
why is it that "pragmatism" is only used in defense of right wing extremism like austerity, standing against gay marriage, and senseless militarism

:thunk:

SHY NUDIST GRRL
Feb 15, 2011

Communism will help more white people than anyone else. Any equal measures unfairly provide less to minority populations just because there's less of them. Democracy is truly the tyranny of the mob.

GalacticAcid posted:

i think boomer dems really hate trans people and blame them for the 2016 loss

Worth it

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

GalacticAcid posted:

i think boomer dems really hate trans people and blame them for the 2016 loss

Big if true

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

AstheWorldWorlds posted:

Reviving the New Deal legacy? Wish this guy would collapse into mummy dust already, he is apparently senile.

Sort of strange how it was post-WWII government programs like massive infrastructure spending and the GI Bill which gave boomers a life of prosperity.

However once they got wealth, they decided to vote away any help to the following generations especially with how they became Fox New's main viewer audience.

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Taintrunner posted:

why is it that "pragmatism" is only used in defense of right wing extremism like austerity, standing against gay marriage, and senseless militarism

:thunk:

it is a dogwhistle for "this thing might seem bad in every conceivable way, but that is only because you are too stupid to grasp the 12-dimensional chess behind it"

(in reality the game is one-dimensional three-card monte)

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

Terror Sweat posted:

To be fair, it is impossible for a clinton to look to the left

new thread title please

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Terror Sweat posted:

To be fair, it is impossible for a clinton to look to the left

:wow:

AstheWorldWorlds
May 4, 2011

etalian posted:

Sort of strange how it was post-WWII government programs like massive infrastructure spending and the GI Bill which gave boomers a life of prosperity.

However once they got wealth, they decided to vote away any help to the following generations especially with how they became Fox New's main viewer audience.

That, and also in structural terms it doesn't make much sense. You are going to challenge the rights and privileges of the elite/aristocracy while largely leaving their power intact, in control of virtually all the production and finance of the country? Yeah, big loving mystery it was incomplete and been in the process of being rolled back.

That Chomsky relies on this while pointing to the twin myths of a "free country" and his apparent belief in the hidden power of our republic means he is finished as a thinker. He isn't even observing reality anymore.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
First I liked Chomsky, then I heard about his record on Cambodia ... and then I read up on how his actual position on the Khmer Rouge tended to be misrepresentative of him and liked him again ... and then he started peddling Seymour Hersh's Syria conspiracy theories ... but man, I think I have to look past that, too.

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon

etalian posted:

Sort of strange how it was post-WWII government programs like massive infrastructure spending and the GI Bill which gave boomers a life of prosperity.

However once they got wealth, they decided to vote away any help to the following generations especially with how they became Fox New's main viewer audience.

maybe prosperity breeds bad people

Feldegast42
Oct 29, 2011

COMMENCE THE RITE OF SHITPOSTING

Tight Booty Shorts posted:

(((Noam Chomsky)))

I'm assuming you pulled that from the comments somewhere.

Feldegast42 has issued a correction as of 16:02 on Jul 6, 2017

ThndrShk2k
Nov 3, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
Bread Liar

Terror Sweat posted:

To be fair, it is impossible for a clinton to look to the left
:bagl:

Serf
May 5, 2011


loquacius posted:

hey now, that person might be a lawyer with a political science degree

lawyers with political science degrees will be first up against the wall

ThndrShk2k
Nov 3, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
Bread Liar

Matt Zerella posted:

new thread title please
We just got this one tho :ohdear:

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


gradenko_2000 posted:

First I liked Chomsky, then I heard about his record on Cambodia ... and then I read up on how his actual position on the Khmer Rouge tended to be misrepresentative of him and liked him again ... and then he started peddling Seymour Hersh's Syria conspiracy theories ... but man, I think I have to look past that, too.

thing with cambodia is it was so loving repressive there was no actual news out of it for years except for the occasional refugee that managed to get out, and their stories seemed so over the top no one actually believed them. they also got no coverage in the US press because we were indirectly allied with the khmer rouge because they were allied with china vs vietnam and the soviets, so it was inconvenient for the US gov. in fact the US continued to indirectly (and possibly directly) support the khmer rouge long after they were overthrown and their crimes were well known, basically until the end of the cold war and vietnam became our trade partners and allies and they kr were no longer useful

im not sure about chomsky's position of the kr but a lot of leftists fell into the trap of defending them, see: leftists rallying around assad

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

ThndrShk2k posted:

We just got this one tho :ohdear:

It's better tho :/

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

consumed by normies posted:

thing with cambodia is it was so loving repressive there was no actual news out of it for years except for the occasional refugee that managed to get out, and their stories seemed so over the top no one actually believed them. they also got no coverage in the US press because we were indirectly allied with the khmer rouge because they were allied with china vs vietnam and the soviets, so it was inconvenient for the US gov. in fact the US continued to indirectly (and possibly directly) support the khmer rouge long after they were overthrown and their crimes were well known, basically until the end of the cold war and vietnam became our trade partners and allies and they kr were no longer useful

Yeah, I got that. I actually took a trip to Siem Reap last year, and the war museum was depressing as hell.

Frijolero
Jan 24, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
Chomsky is bae and I'll clobber any goddamn nazi that says otherwise.

got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

by Cyrano4747

ThndrShk2k posted:

They can sign up and go overseas to fight terrorism and do their due duty then!

what about those who wash out of basic? isnt there something else they might be able to do?

anime was right posted:

just make up a new name for socialism ffs

repubs have twisted every word. freedom caucus, right-to-work, fairness, constitutional, etc

even the declaration of independence was called a lefist attack on trump's policies two days ago

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


consumed by normies posted:

thing with cambodia is it was so loving repressive there was no actual news out of it for years except for the occasional refugee that managed to get out, and their stories seemed so over the top no one actually believed them. they also got no coverage in the US press because we were indirectly allied with the khmer rouge because they were allied with china vs vietnam and the soviets, so it was inconvenient for the US gov. in fact the US continued to indirectly (and possibly directly) support the khmer rouge long after they were overthrown and their crimes were well known, basically until the end of the cold war and vietnam became our trade partners and allies and they kr were no longer useful

This sounds hell of a lot like North Korea except the alliance stuff

AstheWorldWorlds
May 4, 2011
I notice lots of older people believing in some hidden power in the republic as well, where if people just work long enough (with no indications for how long) and hard enough(with again, no further qualification) then the magical apparatus of the republic will spring to life and start churning out policies that are diametrically opposed to probably 90% of the legislative and policy outcomes of the country.

It's like a boomer/silent thoughtform merging with the protestant work ethic and a constellation of national myths.

white sauce
Apr 29, 2012

by R. Guyovich

AstheWorldWorlds posted:

I notice lots of older people believing in some hidden power in the republic as well, where if people just work long enough (with no indications for how long) and hard enough(with again, no further qualification) then the magical apparatus of the republic will spring to life and start churning out policies that are diametrically opposed to probably 90% of the legislative and policy outcomes of the country.

It's like a boomer/silent thoughtform merging with the protestant work ethic and a constellation of national myths.

There is no hope except destruction of this country

Hth

Relevant Tangent
Nov 18, 2016

Tangentially Relevant

gradenko_2000 posted:

First I liked Chomsky, then I heard about his record on Cambodia ... and then I read up on how his actual position on the Khmer Rouge tended to be misrepresentative of him and liked him again ... and then he started peddling Seymour Hersh's Syria conspiracy theories ... but man, I think I have to look past that, too.

You know you're allowed to like some aspects of someone while acknowledging that overall they're neutral to poo poo, right? poo poo people have good insights sometimes.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

gradenko_2000 posted:

Seymour Hersh's Syria conspiracy theories

seymour hersh is correct about syria

AstheWorldWorlds
May 4, 2011

Tight Booty Shorts posted:

There is no hope except destruction of this country

Hth

Yeah that's my point. At the very least the republic needs to be dissolved and a new one formed but lol at that happening.

Much like accelerationism, balkanization is not so much something one desires as something coming anyway.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Relevant Tangent posted:

You know you're allowed to like some aspects of someone while acknowledging that overall they're neutral to poo poo, right? poo poo people have good insights sometimes.

Yes. I was exaggerating for effect.

GalacticAcid posted:

seymour hersh is correct about syria

That the Ghouta chemical weapons attack was a false flag by al-Nusra, and that the Khan Shiekhoun incident was an unfortunate release of chlorine gas?

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Relevant Tangent
Nov 18, 2016

Tangentially Relevant

Tight Booty Shorts posted:

There is no hope except destruction of this country

Hth

If you didn't have a foreign hideaway you were going to flee to your lust for the country's destruction wouldn't ring quite so hollow.

Hth

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