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I'd uninstall MODO if they stopped doing Cube. It's the only reason I fire it up anymore.
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ShaneB posted:People like playing for stakes. More importantly I like playing against people who play for stakes. People who care about winning and won't just get bored and leave halfway through the game, or snapkeep a zero-lander and just quit if he doesn't draw land -> land. That sort of thing.
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Gustav posted:More importantly I like playing against people who play for stakes. People who care about winning and won't just get bored and leave halfway through the game, or snapkeep a zero-lander and just quit if he doesn't draw land -> land. That sort of thing. This is the big draw of MODO to me. Just never, never go into the casual / "tournament practice" rooms.
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XMage is a super clunky, if functional, free open source program so that's good enough for me. I don't use it much but it is nice for things like Legacy goon tourneys.mossyfisk posted:NO TRIBAL One of the first times I played XMage some dude whined about me playing an infinite combo in modern (it was Melira). Then they proceed to Polymorph out a T4 Emrakul game 2 (after which I immediately CoCo'd and hit my singleton Fiend Hunter).
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The vibe I get from Xmage is the user base is garbage and not particularly useful if you just play randos. If you have a play group it's fine.
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Alaan posted:The vibe I get from Xmage is the user base is garbage and not particularly useful if you just play randos. If you have a play group it's fine. This really isn't true. As an ex MTGO user there is a huge shitlord user base which has been shown ITT multiple times with screen shots of people whining and crying. On XMage those types exists but there is also a huge swath of people who play as if something is on the line and don't act like dickheads. What's nice about it is that you can set perimeters for casual or serious "rated" play. These rooms are great because it's people playing Modern, Standard, Legacy with decks they're testing because they may end up buying into them in the paper game. I played the Mardu Reanimator deck posted in here on XMage for 2 weeks then finally bought the real cards to play @ FNM
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remember the thing about modo giving out treasure chests and that hod cards were standard legal? wotc responded to that this morning http://wizardsmtgo.tumblr.com/post/162648427199/hour-of-devastation-cards(bolding mine)quote:HOUR OF DEVASTATION CARDS modo: quality product
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Elyv posted:remember the thing about modo giving out treasure chests and that hod cards were standard legal? wotc responded to that this morning http://wizardsmtgo.tumblr.com/post/162648427199/hour-of-devastation-cards(bolding mine) At this point why even revert? All you're saying here is "don't even bother playing MODO for the next 4 days".
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I wouldn't revert but it seems...not hard...to add the expansion to "not modern legal" and "not standard legal".
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Tainen posted:https://twitter.com/saffronolive/status/882753448789331968 The more shocking thing is that Wizards thinks it's a good idea for people to be opening random standard commons in treasure chests.
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It's probably hard coded into the actual program and would require everyone to re-download the entire client again and wipe all collections for some reason.
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evilweasel posted:I wouldn't revert but it seems...not hard...to add the expansion to "not modern legal" and "not standard legal". Format legality is hard-coded into cards or something I dunno. Just remember that Gleemox was legal in all eternal formats for a while because 
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I mean, the reason almost certainly is that whatever they're doing in the backend to modify card/set legality requires a downtime. Now, why it requires a downtime instead of just being an sql query dumped to a file or something is another story entirely Also, Cuneo was apparently streaming standard last night with MED strategic plannings in his deck so at least it's not set symbol dependent or whatever it was that happened those times where some editions of a card worked and some didn't. Baby steps
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uPen posted:The more shocking thing is that Wizards thinks it's a good idea for people to be opening random standard commons in treasure chests. *wotc executive voice* you're right, in return for all the money our customers give us we should give them something they want ins- *begins laughing to hard to finish sentence*
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Yes just what people need, more undeletable draft leftovers clogging up their accounts forever. Anyway, does anyone know who Riley Knight is? Perhaps a streamer? They're a new commentator at the next PT (along with Cheon).
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:Yes just what people need, more undeletable draft leftovers clogging up their accounts forever. Apparently he's done Euro GP commentary already and some people seem to have really liked him. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLEqWbEEie8&t=4524s is some work he's done on some non WOTC streams or something? He's fun. ShaneB fucked around with this message at 19:46 on Jul 6, 2017 |
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:Yes just what people need, more undeletable draft leftovers clogging up their accounts forever. He's a lively play by play commentator from European GPs. He's pretty good.
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:Anyway, does anyone know who Riley Knight is? Perhaps a streamer? They're a new commentator at the next PT (along with Cheon). I had to double check his twitter handle to confirm it was the guy I remembered from European coverage. He is really upbeat, has kind of a sports commentator type vibe sort of in the Cedric camp. He is the third result on a google search. Second search result is an Aussie Rules football player. Top google result is an xvideos model page, lol.
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Does anyone have suggestions for collection tracking? I have twice purchased cards to go into decks only to later find out I already owned them. Fortunately they've been pretty cheap (pauper decks and EDH jank) so it wasn't a huge loss, but it did make me feel silly. I was using deckbox.org for a while, but a lot of their stuff has shifted to a pay service and the mobile version of the page is pretty crappy. Ideally, I'd like something that works on PC and my phone, so probably something web-based would be best (maybe?) but I'm open to any suggestions. I'm open to spending a couple bucks on software, so that's not a huge barrier.
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Aranan posted:Does anyone have suggestions for collection tracking? I have twice purchased cards to go into decks only to later find out I already owned them. Fortunately they've been pretty cheap (pauper decks and EDH jank) so it wasn't a huge loss, but it did make me feel silly. tcgplayer.com That way when you buy cards from there it automatically adds it to your collection.
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I use MTG goldfish premium. I look at the site basically daily and like the deck pricing features enough to pay to support it.
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I still like Deckbox but my bad habit of saving every halfway-interesting decklist I see is starting to get really out of hand, I'll click on a card to see if I'm using it in any decks and a dozen different lists will pop up, only one or two of which I'm actually using. I actually haven't noticed what features they've paywalled. I don't think he reads this thread anymore but Baron von Vaderham claimed to be working on a Deckbox-killer, wonder what ever happened to that.
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:Anyway, does anyone know who Riley Knight is? Perhaps a streamer? They're a new commentator at the next PT (along with Cheon). Riley is great. He does commentary for most of the Euro stuff. He did stream for a while here and there but I'm guessing ge got hired by WotC or something so he can't anymore. I've been saying for years that he should be given more opportunities for coverage, so this is awesome to hear.
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Magic counterfeits have come a really long way. https://www.magiclibrarities.net/675-rarities-middle-ages-stickers-english-cards-images.html
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LSV said in his black review for HoD that he's fully prepared for lots of people to insist that Torment of Hailfire has gotta be good, it's just gotta! The comments of that article include lots of people insisting that punisher cards are better than he thinks and are getting unfairly snubbed.
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I argued with a buddy of mine that Vexing Devil was garbage. He insisted otherwise. It turns out Vexing Devil gets a lot better when after they don't take the damage, you play another land, surge out a bushwhacker and hit them for 5 before they can untap and kill it. That said, without the haste, I just don't think it can perform. Hailfire will probably be the same way, garbage unless you can make it so all the options are extremely damaging. So either stripping their hand/permanents to where its a gigantic dome spell, or ramping to some absurd amount of mana, torment of hailfire for x=16 seems good. I don't expect the card to be good, but I feel like casting it for the win in either of those scenarios will be very satisfying.
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Magic players are also notorious for failing to evaluate average case as opposed to best case scenario. That card is so bad outside of best case. LSV is putting cards in an average deck with an average board and rating them there. This drives so many people nuts. I've seen so many exchanges on mythic spoiler where people rave Helm of the Gods will be +10/+10, Majestic Myriarch will be 20/20 and this card will dome out the entire table every game, but oh man if you dare use the word average they fly off the handle and scream about deck construction.
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Shovelmint posted:I argued with a buddy of mine that Vexing Devil was garbage. He insisted otherwise. It turns out Vexing Devil gets a lot better when after they don't take the damage, you play another land, surge out a bushwhacker and hit them for 5 before they can untap and kill it. That said, without the haste, I just don't think it can perform. Hailfire will probably be the same way, garbage unless you can make it so all the options are extremely damaging. So either stripping their hand/permanents to where its a gigantic dome spell, or ramping to some absurd amount of mana, torment of hailfire for x=16 seems good. I don't expect the card to be good, but I feel like casting it for the win in either of those scenarios will be very satisfying. It's certainly a great card when your opponent has no cards in hand, has no nonland permanents and isn't at an absurd life total, and you have lots of mana available.
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Much like how Vexing Devil is good when your opponents misplay into a bushwhacker and never have Push up.
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I think LSV did a legacy video once where he just took the damage off three Vexing Devils and still won pretty handily.
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PrinnySquadron posted:I think LSV did a legacy video once where he just took the damage off three Vexing Devils and still won pretty handily. I mean Devil doing four to the face isn't really the fail case, assuming it's in a deck that would play Lava Spike. The problem is that if you're not a burn deck then having your creature Dismember itself is terrible, and if you are a burn deck then you're gambling for one extra damage on the card potentially not getting through at all.
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The problem with Vexing Devil in burn is that it's whichever is worse of {creature, burn spell}. If it's T1 it's no goblin guide or swiftspear or whatever and your opp will probably just take 4, and if it's t6 your opponent will just let you resolve it and then kill it
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ZeroCount posted:Magic counterfeits have come a really long way.  Fred Ditzler sounds like a fake persons name.
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Elyv posted:The problem with Vexing Devil in burn is that it's whichever is worse of {creature, burn spell}. If it's T1 it's no goblin guide or swiftspear or whatever and your opp will probably just take 4, and if it's t6 your opponent will just let you resolve it and then kill it It's basically a worse Nacatl. In situations where Nacatl would be really good and get in for 6+ damage, your opponent just takes the 4. In situations where Nacatl is bad and doesn't do anything, it also doesn't do anything. Burn gave up on Nacatl.
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While reading this entire discussion I had it in my head that Torment of Hailfire was this text: Torment of Hailfire XB Sorcery Target opponent loses 3 life, sacrifices a permanent, or discards a card. Repeat this X times. I was actually thinking this is really competitively costed at every cost you would play a big 7-10 mana ramp target in standard anyways, since Ulamog is hard cast by some decks and there's a few 7 drops that see fringe play. Actually reading the actual card makes me think it's awful, cause as it turns out adding 2 to the mana cost of a card is a good way to make it much, much worse.
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Spiderdrake posted:Magic players are also notorious for failing to evaluate average case as opposed to best case scenario. That card is so bad outside of best case. LSV is putting cards in an average deck with an average board and rating them there. This drives so many people nuts. So many people seem convinced that majestic myriarch is good and I don't understand why On a semi related note, according to tcgplayer pre-order prices there are currently six cards in Hour of Devastation that cost more than a pack
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Gustav posted:More importantly I like playing against people who play for stakes. People who care about winning and won't just get bored and leave halfway through the game, or snapkeep a zero-lander and just quit if he doesn't draw land -> land. That sort of thing. Whatever happened to Magic League? Their website doesn't seem to exist anymore. I remember playing in some of their tournaments years ago, and even though the only stakes were bragging rights for the most part, having organized tournaments led to much better games than just finding randos in the lobby.
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This may be the deck that gets me into Legacy. poo poo looks hilariously fun. Too bad I'm missing the most expensive 70% of the deck. 
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Goons, can anyone recommend a store in Atlanta? I'm here for work for the next few weeks and I'd like to play some modern. I'm staying in Kennesaw.
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