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fits my needs posted:Did Obama earn interest on his political capital? "political capital" is probably best understood as "leverage over other peoples' electoral fortunes" which is why Obama didn't have any re: healthcare, because what leverage did he have over Lieberman?
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the fun thing about harris' time as AG is to imagine what will come out when people really start digging for dirt
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https://twitter.com/thecrisismag/status/882944989273231360 e: why, perhaps, "free college" isn't a slam dunk winning issue with the Democratic base, black people.
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sure we could make college free, but would that solve racism?
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:https://twitter.com/thecrisismag/status/882944989273231360 Sure sucks that it was Sanders' only policy proposal.
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Jul 6, 2017 23:03
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at least harris running might shine enough of a light on the hell that california calls its prison system for some reforms to be done
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etalian posted:Jimmy Dore interviews author Thomas Frank on why the bad dems are getting wrecked: 
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Raskolnikov38 posted:at least harris running might shine enough of a light on the hell that california calls its prison system for some reforms to be done lol. no one actually gives a crap about the prisoners. it's all about the correctional officers lobby in Cali baby!!!!
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loquacius posted:you see what I'm loving talking about with the Nader thing Gore probably shouldn't have had such a weak campaign that Nader mattered. Hillary probably should have had anything to answer Bernie's criticism
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fits my needs posted:lol. no one actually gives a crap about the prisoners. it's all about the correctional officers lobby in Cali baby!!!! 
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:https://twitter.com/thecrisismag/status/882944989273231360 Like Flint! It still exists! With lead!
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:"political capital" is probably best understood as "leverage over other peoples' electoral fortunes" yet obama had made backroom deals with industry beforehand + allowed Lieberman to keep his powerful committee chairs afterward, huh. obama's presidency will go down as the first No We Can't (or Won't) dem presidency + congress but I'm sure it won't be the last, bc that's how bad dems roll (see CA for the state model of this philosophy).
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anyone who still maintains that obama "really really wanted single-payer" or that he didn't do exactly what the insurance industry wanted him to do during the ACA's crafting is a bad dem + and idiot.
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quote:e: why, perhaps, "free college" isn't a slam dunk winning issue with the Democratic base, black people. lmfao at anyone claiming the base of the democrats is black people the base of the democrats is the donor class, and they wrap it in the laziest implementation of identity politics ever imagined so criticizing their horseshit is somehow racist Willa Rogers posted:anyone who still maintains that obama "really really wanted single-payer" or that he didn't do exactly what the insurance industry wanted to during the ACA's crafting is a bad dem + and idiot. forcing everyone to buy private insurance while not lifting a finger on making private insurance provide access to adequate care is some loving evil poo poo, actually
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"political capital" is the term bad dems use when trying to justify why their legislating follows their donors' wishes rather than the voters'.
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Willa Rogers posted:anyone who still maintains that obama "really really wanted single-payer" or that he didn't do exactly what the insurance industry wanted him to do during the ACA's crafting is a bad dem + and idiot. but but the PBS documentary I was forced to watch in my masters healthcare administration class said that he tried really hard!!!! that's why that blonde haired lady that's the super duper health insurance lobbyist looked so happy! lol  
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Vox Nihili posted:~a step in the right (left) direction~ a tiny incremental step, the best kind of step
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fits my needs posted:but but the PBS documentary I was forced to watch in my masters healthcare administration class said that he tried really hard!!!! the insurance industry published their wishlist in dec. 2008, after obama won but before he took office, and you'll be amazed to find out that the ACA closely mirrors that wishlist.
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Willa Rogers posted:the insurance industry published their wishlist in dec. 2008, after obama won but before he took office, and you'll be amazed to find out that the ACA closely mirrors that wishlist. hahaha gently caress obama
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fits my needs posted:but but the PBS documentary I was forced to watch in my masters healthcare administration class said that he tried really hard!!!! i spent my entire (one mandatory) masters health admin course playing games on my phone there's a entire department
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here's an oldtimey post I made about the insurance industry's proposal back when it was released
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the "evidence" is that one of the top republicans in the state told the other top republican in the state that he thinks maybe he overheard Jane doing some fraud five years ago https://twitter.com/Bro_Pair/status/883089628248584192
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lol https://twitter.com/jon4vermont/status/882721668010999810 https://twitter.com/jon4vermont/status/883086241608196097
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democrats keep talking up guys who lost them elections i really dont get it
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Svitavsky is a literal nobody in VT politics. The challenge from Giordano was more serious and it was not at all serious.
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i mostly just want a lot of dumb clinton people to send him money
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oh yeah that makes the most sense. take that hill crew hate money and vanish.
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Joementum posted:Svitavsky is a literal nobody in VT politics. The challenge from Giordano was more serious and it was not at all serious. casual reminder that nothing matters, tho
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Honestly I'm a fool for having not recognized the money-making opportunity of moving to Vermont and running against Sanders.
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i lost an election for elementary school president (to be fair my opponent had a really good parody song set to the tune of amish paradise, the parody of gangsters paradise) do you think the dems will hire me as a campaign manager
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:https://twitter.com/thecrisismag/status/882944989273231360 wow, i cant believe that tuition-free public education is actually bad for black people
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holy lol https://twitter.com/jon4vermont/status/883066084110327808
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just join the republican party already jfc
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Joementum posted:the "evidence" is that one of the top republicans in the state told the other top republican in the state that he thinks maybe he overheard Jane doing some fraud five years ago The person who leaked the rumors to the press was also one of the top manager for Trump's Vermont state campaign. Of course I seen many a dishonest Hill Folk repost this second hand story as if it's something that will destroy Bernie.
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Serf posted:the dems have lost shitloads of power by catering to the right and moving to the center. if they can't even win anymore and half-assedly "protect" us from the worst the republicans have to offer, then why the gently caress should we vote for them? FDR's coalition gave the dems lots of success all the way into the 60s and also had the side effect of giving people a positive view of the government since all the various programs like WPA were a lifeline to people who lost their job in the great depression.
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Oh Snapple! posted:i mostly just want a lot of dumb clinton people to send him money the actual hill folk base is like 5,000 people, half of whom previously worked for clinton in some capacity and 3/4 of whom have subsequently lost the capacity to reason. they dont have a real grassroots donor network, and this guy will raise maybe 5 figures if hes lucky
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