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ApplesandOranges posted:Upcoming Mythril budgeting if you're drained of Mythril. Keep in mind we should be getting a DU soon (either next week or the week after). Thanks! Maybe I'll get to 50 in time for FFX
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MikeSevigny posted:I didn't think Durandal was that bad, actually, he hits AOE a lot but we kept him buffed down. Someone's going to have to be on Esuna duty though, and unless you're coordinating on the discord, that's probably going to be you, so you're going to have to leave all your shiny new Fest toys behind and spam Ultra Cure and breaks so your dumbass teammates don't eat it, not that I'm bitter or anything about multiplayer. Grizzled Patriarch posted:And somehow even though I've been playing for like a year I have zero resist petrify accessories. They really need to add some of those to the greens exchange or something, it's ridiculous how I have like 10 goddamn major resist for some debuffs and 0-1 for others.
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Wow Cloud is really hard to master. I even physical blinked with Arc like 4 or 5 times and still got dinged for damage taken and actions taken.
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So what do people tailor parties around with cloud USB RW? I think most people used to RW either a healer, Wall, or hastega. Are people now putting all 3 of those in natively and you only need 2 damage dealers?
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Elephant Ambush posted:Wow Cloud is really hard to master. I even physical blinked with Arc like 4 or 5 times and still got dinged for damage taken and actions taken. It's tougher than it appears, but doable if you have decent dark relics. I ran Ramza (shout, USB) Y'sh (Wall, BSB) Alphi (SSB, RW Bot) Golbez (BSB) and Nabaat (SSB, BSB) rw'ing Raines. I had to S/L after my first try because I let Wall run out and got my poo poo pushed in. A few more S/Ls because the beginning phase is pretty RNG with how Cloud rushes your guys. It went smooth though after I was able to get through the mitigation phase and keep my buffs going. I have 2 great Dark users though, plus Alphinaud is a very solid Raines bot.
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I ran a mage team mostly as a joke but turns out Golbez BSB, OK BSB, Kuja BSB and Fujin BSB is Actually A Pretty Decent (Dark) Mage Team. Ysh healed. Fujin was filler but carried Protectga and Gust did decent damage. Also since the entire team was in back row Cloud barely did any damage. First victory for the mage team.
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tfw instead of pulling on cloud usb you pull on ff12 for husbando bsb2/lm to make him as not-terrible as possible, get three rainbow orbs, and are greeted with three reks shields never again
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What's the ETA for magicite dungeons? I still need to go murder a couple nightmare dungeons I've been ignoring.
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HPanda posted:Sure. I've got the soul breaks listed above, so abilities were: Thanks for this! After waiting for Cloud's USB to arrive, this was the strategy that finally got it done for me...mastered it too! I had a few slight changes: Luneth had Drain Strike instead of Sky High so once all the Swordshowers were spent, that was it for him and Arc was using BSB instead of SSB. It was so very close, one more turn and I probably would have wiped, but I'm sure glad to have those extra motes.
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So being as I lack any sort of SB for Luneth, it's looking like the full Torment CM is out of my reach. I tried with Zindane BSB2 and Cloud RW, but even at 30k per burst command Zidane can't kill him before the USB buff runs out. Tried mage meta with Desch's lightning Imperil powering out Rapha BSB and Rainse BSB, but again he has too much drat HP for the buffs to hold out. I could try adding Bartz w/ Snowspell strike to the physical party, but I can't imagine going in without Wall is a very good idea.
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Philouza posted:Thanks for this! After waiting for Cloud's USB to arrive, this was the strategy that finally got it done for me...mastered it too! I had a few slight changes: Luneth had Drain Strike instead of Sky High so once all the Swordshowers were spent, that was it for him and Arc was using BSB instead of SSB. It was so very close, one more turn and I probably would have wiped, but I'm sure glad to have those extra motes. Glad it helped! That Cid/OK/Alph combo is brutal. While the early part of the fight wasn't the issue, was still fun to see him melt down to 40%. THE AWESOME GHOST posted:So what do people tailor parties around with cloud USB RW? Pretty much, though there are sometimes ways to combine some of those, depending on needs. Tyro can do 2.25 of those things himself with wrath and a non-lovely opener for a boss, assuming he has Wall and USB. The idea is that with 2 RW casts, more than 2 DPS characters would be highly diminishing returns, anyway. Sometimes even one DPS with the other four slots built around making him/her a god can be worthwhile. Of course, that's all gonna depend heavily on the fight and SB's available.
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So what's everyone's opinion on Noctis at the moment? He's the only character I have the third memory crystal for so I'm wondering if it's worth boosting him up.
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ceaselessfuture posted:So what's everyone's opinion on Noctis at the moment? He's the only character I have the third memory crystal for so I'm wondering if it's worth boosting him up. This game is less about which characters you have (because eventually you will collect everyone) and more about which items you have for said characters. Wait until you pull relic weapons before deciding who to put on your team. A character with a BSB even at level 65 is going to outdamage Noctis at 99.
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Ultimately, it also comes down to which characters you really like. (which is why this game rules and FFBE drools)
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If you want to use Noctis the FFXV event with relics for him is coming soon enough (unless they change, the schedule should go XIV-X-Type0-VIII-VII-IV-XV-XI-Magicite Minifest) He gets some very nice relics, but is purely non-elemental (which has some ups and downs)
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Evil Fluffy posted:What's the ETA for magicite dungeons? I still need to go murder a couple nightmare dungeons I've been ignoring. three months, our next quarterly fest is designed to give us the elemental options for them
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wizard on a water slide posted:tfw instead of pulling on cloud usb you pull on ff12 for husbando bsb2/lm to make him as not-terrible as possible, get three rainbow orbs, and are greeted with three reks shields wow that's pretty amazing, in its own way
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Sorry for all the questions, but you guys are great and helpful <3 Should I be saving mithril for a half-off event or just use it as it comes?
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I feel like I'm missing something with this D300 Bahamut. I managed to whittle him down to 40% without wall, then Cloud died before he could kick off the BSB2/USB murderfest. I'm trying: RW Cloud USB (Or RW Wall if I want to have an easier time surviving) Cloud, Tornado Strike/Hailstorm, BSB2/OSB, Sword damage+ RM Eiko, Curada/Ultra Cure, BSB/USB (focusing mostly on BSB for extra crit), white magic x2 RM Refia, Exploding Fist, Meteor Strike, BSB, atk+ RM Tyro, Multibreak, Angelsong, BSB, Thunder God mode RM OK, PowerBD/Magic BD, BSB, autohaste RM to get VoF off fast. IF I RW Wall, I can last basically forever, but I run out of gas at the 40% point and Cloud just can't last long enough to whittle Bahamut down through his awful healing gimmick. If I RW the USB, I have a hell of a time staying alive if Bahamut decides Megaflares are the hip new thing, and the USB is basically useless until the last 40% of his health when, again, I've usually run out of healing and mblinks from trying to stay alive up until then. Refia usually hits for 1500 to 3000 per hit. Cloud for about 3k, OK for about 1200. I've tried bring Ramza instead, and the damage is a little better, but if I beat this SOB, I'd like some of those Spirit motes, y'know? I also tried bringing Zack and his BSB for imperils, but his damage wasn't much better than Refia's. I also tried Zidane and his BSB2, as a way to add another stack of boostgas, but it didn't seem to help too much. He did pretty good damage, though, at 5kx2 per cmd1/2 on his burst. But if I bring him, he has to take off 60% of Bahamut's HP basically by himself, so I can save Cloud for the big finish. I also tried a Mage team, but the only wind mage SB I have is Fujin's, which is useful but not the biggest powerhouse. My best mage BSB with a non-elemental tag is Kuja, who was doing a solid amount of damage, but part of that was because of the boost he gets from Doom, which was...a really bad idea in this fight... I feel like I SHOULD be able to take this guy out, but I can't find the right balance between DPS and not dying. I have no idea what else to try. I'm unreasonably frustrated over a dumb cellphone game and should probably just take a break. On the upside, I sailed through all of the FF12 bosses, so that felt pretty great after the grinder the top-tier battles have been lately!
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ahhhh this goddamn Daedalus fight is driving me insane, got him down to 10% and he petrifies 3 of our healers right as Wall wears off. gently caress this fight so much, I have never been this frustrated by an MP fight. Why couldn't it be the one giving away another pile of bravery motes or some poo poo instead of the one 4 star mote I actually need. And why in fucks name do they feel the need to make a boss spam a condition that they haven't given us a resist accessory for in like an entire year.
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Zonko_T.M. posted:I feel like I'm missing something with this D300 Bahamut. I managed to whittle him down to 40% without wall, then Cloud died before he could kick off the BSB2/USB murderfest. I'm trying: No guarantee, but you might (might) be able to have it both ways if you try using a Wall RW, then have Cloud pop his burst and go a round or two with that, then use the OSB for the other two meters. Having Enwind (and the BSB attack boost) up makes a huge difference in the amount of damage it does. It still may not be enough though. It doesn't make a huge difference, but if you can, try using Lifebane instead of Exploding Fist, you can get a little more damage out of Refia that way. If you get Wall going and have that Magic Blink, you ought to be able to sub out Power Breakdown for Armor Breakdown, and even replace Magic Breakdown with a cure or something. Edit: Total Desperation Option - Thyrus is on the FFXIV Banner? Sesq fucked around with this message at 03:45 on Jul 7, 2017 |
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wizard on a water slide posted:tfw instead of pulling on cloud usb you pull on ff12 for husbando bsb2/lm to make him as not-terrible as possible, get three rainbow orbs, and are greeted with three reks shields u got rekst
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Nothing like using Ramza/Strago for raids when people are bringing their Cloud USBs. Ramza charges History's Truth, Strago sits there twiddling his thumbs. Random Clouds start using their USB, it's charging. Ramza finishes his own USB off, Strago gets instant cast. Fire off lore. Boss instagibbed before Clouds get to show off, since they didn't wait for Ramza. YOU WHIPPERSNAPPERS SIT DOWN AND WATCH HOW ITS DONE, SONNYBOYS.
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Finally. I hate fights where I have a great team/setup/strat but victory depends entirely on RNG luck. Whatever. Agrias now has 30 5* Spirit motes to munch on. My strat: Turn 1 OK BSB Shout Luneth Drain Strike every turn until 3 wind imperils active Fang uses basic attack until all buffs are up Arc casts Protectga Turn 2 Luneth Drain Strike Fang basic attack Arc Renewing Rains OK Armor BD Ramza Chant Turn 3 Luneth Drain Strike Fang call RW Cloud USB Arc Curaja OK Magic BD Ramza Full Break Turn 4 Luneth Drain Strike Fang imperil wind BSB Arc Curaja, refresh Renewing Rains after every Megaflare OK Swift Slice Ramza Power BD After that it's just keeping Fang and Luneth alive Once Fang done 2 imperil BSBs Luneth calls Cloud USB RW After Fang has done 3 imperil BSBs she uses Sky High until she's dead or both uses are gone After 3 imperils Luneth uses BSB, command 2, BSB, BSB OK and Ramza refresh VoF and Shout right as Luneth calls Cloud USB Arc heals Luneth while he kills Bahamut It took a zillion tries but I finally got the RNG luck I needed to win. Thanks DeNa you fucks!
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Zonko_T.M. posted:I feel like I'm missing something with this D300 Bahamut. I managed to whittle him down to 40% without wall, then Cloud died before he could kick off the BSB2/USB murderfest. I'm trying: I just did the CM for D300 with no wall. I think you can do it, especially if you're not worried too much about the CM. I do have Ramza with his USB and shout though, so YMMV. I used: Arc (phys blink SSB) Luneth (BSB) he's basically equal to your Cloud. OK (ssb1 and ss2, no VoF Ramza (shout and USB for insta cast) Fang (imperil BSB) only level 80 Basically there's a ton of RNG, you better hope for as few megaflares as possible. I stacked imperils early, plus used my Ramza USB to time my SB usage optimally. Try to get two imperils down before rwing Cloud Also don't use Eiko's BSB as it nerfs the Cloud damage. Eiko's USB alone can possibly carry you though. Anyway the gist of it is, buff your DPS as much as possible, cast imperils, and then unleash cloud meta as fast as possible. Try to optimize as much bursty damage as possible because it's a pain in the rear end if he curajas himself past your offense. I actually had to use sky high at the end to finish it past this BS. Good luck. Edit: Elephant we had a very similar team with just slightly different relics. My Fang got killed too. Pretty cool! iamsosmrt fucked around with this message at 05:18 on Jul 7, 2017 |
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2/11 Thyrus and Magitek Repeater I finally no longer have to RW for wall!!
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ceaselessfuture posted:Sorry for all the questions, but you guys are great and helpful <3 Always pull on every lucky draw (25 mythril 11-pulls). We'll have one next week, even.
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RagnarokAngel posted:There's some who say half draws arent worth it (these people are wrong) but if youre new its no question worth it. Those "some" are fools. It takes pretty exceptional amount of dupes for half priced pulls to not be worth it.
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The only time I'd say no to lucky draws is when the pool is so pared down that there's only like 20 relics total and I already have 15 of them. So, you know, like the Curaga Medica banner we got.
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iamsosmrt posted:Also don't use Eiko's BSB as it nerfs the Cloud damage. How's this work? Why does Eiko's BSB nerf the damage?
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bilperkins2 posted:How's this work? Why does Eiko's BSB nerf the damage? replaces 100% crit rate with 50%
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Man my team of Tyro, Kuja, Cid(13), OK, and Yuna turned Cloud into a fine paste with absolutely no problem... but I still lost a medal for damage taken. The requirements for that fight are stupidly tight.
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Attestant posted:Those "some" are fools. It takes pretty exceptional amount of dupes for half priced pulls to not be worth it. Meh. I don't pull luckies in global because I don't do CMs in global and I already have a stable, very powerful team. I'd much rather save my mythril for targeted draws on specific high-upside banners. Luckies are excellent for filling out your relic collection, but I don't need that.
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Zurai posted:Meh. I don't pull luckies in global because I don't do CMs in global and I already have a stable, very powerful team. I'd much rather save my mythril for targeted draws on specific high-upside banners. Luckies are excellent for filling out your relic collection, but I don't need that. I hope to get to this point one day, but even though I can clear just about everything (including about 90% of the CMs these past 4 months or so), I have massive holes in my overall roster that leaves even a decent chance of getting good items for cheap to be worthwhile. Shiiiiet, I got like 4 USBs from luckies, including Ramza's, which has saved my rear end a few times. Depends on your goals though.
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Not having enough vit motes to finish Cloud's LS board for his last LM really, really sucks. Bell_ posted:Ultimately, it also comes down to which characters you really like. Sorry I can't hear you over the sound of my Orlandeau/Olive/Rikku/WoL/Tilith team murdering everything in FFBE.  (Draw rates in FFBE are pretty rough, like FFRK used to be) Grizzled Patriarch posted:ahhhh this goddamn Daedalus fight is driving me insane, got him down to 10% and he petrifies 3 of our healers right as Wall wears off. gently caress this fight so much, I have never been this frustrated by an MP fight. Why couldn't it be the one giving away another pile of bravery motes or some poo poo instead of the one 4 star mote I actually need. And why in fucks name do they feel the need to make a boss spam a condition that they haven't given us a resist accessory for in like an entire year. I still don't know how the random pub group I joined on the first day cleared it. I'm gonna go with it being due to having 4 healers, with one or two of them constantly spamming SBs that gave status blink. We still had people get petrified once or twice but thankfully two of the other healers also had ultra cure/esuna. Fight's real bad but at least healers with Lionheart (or eve Ace Striker/Battleforged) can toss out BSBs often. Cinnamon Bear posted:replaces 100% crit rate with 50% Are you sure? This contradicts everything people have said about it since Eiko's is +50% crit rate while Cloud's USB sets your crit rate to 100% and that the larger bonus is used.
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Evil Fluffy posted:Are you sure? This contradicts everything people have said about it since Eiko's is +50% crit rate while Cloud's USB sets your crit rate to 100% and that the larger bonus is used. There is no such thing as a buff which grants +50% to your crit rate. Every buff which affects crit rate sets your crit rate equal to whatever the buff is (50%, except for Cloud USB). What you may be getting confused about are abilities and BSB commands with inherent crit rate, like Skygrinder or Cloud's/Lightning's BSB1. Those are actual increases to crit chance from whatever your baseline is (~3-5% normally, 50% under Eiko BSB etc, 100% under Cloud USB). Zurai fucked around with this message at 17:00 on Jul 7, 2017 |
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