The Youtube Intellectual Mock Thread! [Part 2]

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Midig: Apr 6, 2016

People keep calling shields noob, but I think dodging is even more noob in many cases since you can usually attack right after dodging with little repercussions while blocking might actually hinder you in some way and will not always work. I think both are cool mechanics and Souls games should encourage them in different situations by making some attacks undodgeable and some attacks unblockable. The way most Souls games are now you can dodge 90 percent of threats in the game.

Midig fucked around with this message at 20:55 on Jul 7, 2017

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I AM GRANDO: Aug 20, 2006

What it is about video games that everyone else on the internet who fights fascists gets but I don't? I'm like 80% all-in on every bob and weave this thread takes but I can't loving stand video games.

# ? Jul 7, 2017 21:03

OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

Midig posted:

People keep calling shields noob, but I think dodging is even more noob in many cases since you can usually attack right after dodging with little repercussions while blocking might actually hinder you in some way and will not always work. I think both are cool mechanics and Souls games should encourage them in different situations by making some attacks undodgeable and some attacks unblockable. The way most Souls games are now you can dodge 90 percent of threats in the game.

That would make non-shield runs painfully unfun, shields give you an extra defence, but they aren't mandatory, and as hbomb points out, the game based entirely on dodging is really fun.

business hammocks posted:

What it is about video games that everyone else on the internet who fights fascists gets but I don't? I'm like 80% all-in on every bob and weave this thread takes but I can't loving stand video games.

They're fun? And interesting to talk about.

# ? Jul 7, 2017 21:04

Groovelord Neato: Dec 6, 2014

business hammocks posted:

What it is about video games that everyone else on the internet who fights fascists gets but I don't? I'm like 80% all-in on every bob and weave this thread takes but I can't loving stand video games.

i only play the dark souls/bloodborne games as they have ruined all other video games for me. i'll be with you soon enough.

# ? Jul 7, 2017 21:05

Deified Data: Nov 3, 2015; Fun Shoe

business hammocks posted:

What it is about video games that everyone else on the internet who fights fascists gets but I don't? I'm like 80% all-in on every bob and weave this thread takes but I can't loving stand video games.

There's lots of different kinds and probably some you'd like if you tried them.

Groovelord Neato posted:

i only play the dark souls/bloodborne games as they have ruined all other video games for me. i'll be with you soon enough.

Play Nioh

# ? Jul 7, 2017 21:06

Groovelord Neato: Dec 6, 2014

i tried it. not as bad as lords of the fallen/the surge but they didn't quite get it either.

# ? Jul 7, 2017 21:08

Intrinsic Field Marshal: Sep 6, 2014; by SA Support Robot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIm3d5YEwiQ

# ? Jul 7, 2017 21:08

OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

I mean personally I feel like you could make a compelling argument that being seriously left wing and liking videogames is probably a somewhat odd thing given that gaming culture is an absolute cesspit.

# ? Jul 7, 2017 21:09

Deified Data: Nov 3, 2015; Fun Shoe

Two schools of thought:

A)The Matt Christman. No such thing as moral consumption. Everything is evil and counter-revolutionary. Any time spent gaming is time you could spend protesting, chain smoking, or posting ironically.

B) The end game of leftism is shrinking time spent at work and growing time spent at home, pursuing hobbies, however trivial. Gaming is a hobby. The revolution needs to happen so i can play Civ all day.

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OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

I'd like to add the OwlFancier postulation to that list: C) Gamers are, as a rule, proper garbo. Avoid them.

# ? Jul 7, 2017 21:16

Deified Data: Nov 3, 2015; Fun Shoe

"Gamers". People that play games and live otherwise well-adjusted, balanced lives, however, are cool.

Also there have to be some cool people in the hobby to rub its increasing inclusiveness in their faces.

Deified Data fucked around with this message at 21:23 on Jul 7, 2017

# ? Jul 7, 2017 21:17

Falstaff: Apr 27, 2008; I have a kind of alacrity in sinking.

OwlFancier posted:

I'd like to add the OwlFancier postulation to that list: C) Gamers are, as a rule, proper garbo. Avoid them.

In general I agree with you, but Shirley Curry seems pretty cool and she's called herself a gamer before.

# ? Jul 7, 2017 21:31

Who What Now: Sep 10, 2006; by Azathoth

Deified Data posted:

"Gamers". People that play games and live otherwise well-adjusted, balanced lives, however, are cool.

Also there have to be some cool people in the hobby to rub its increasing inclusiveness in their faces.

Gamers are people that substitute videogames for a personality. If you live a well-adjusted, balanced life you are not a True Gamer^{^{^TM}}

# ? Jul 7, 2017 21:32

mojo1701a: Oct 9, 2008; Oh, yeah. Loud and clear. Emphasis on LOUD!
~ David Lee Roth

Groovelord Neato posted:

i only play the dark souls/bloodborne games as they have ruined all other video games for me. i'll be with you soon enough.

How much of a step back would it be to pick up Dark Souls or whatever the first games were? I've only played Bloodborne.

On a similar note: I was originally expecting something Skyrim-ish. Wow was it a surprise.

# ? Jul 7, 2017 21:37

Seraphic Neoman: Jul 19, 2011

Who What Now posted:

Gamers are people that substitute videogames for a personality. If you live a well-adjusted, balanced life you are not a True Gamer^{^{^TM}}

It's perfectly fine to identify yourself by a hobby you like. It's not fine doing it in excess. Plenty of people are gamers with a well-adjusted lifestyle and the whole "gamers are dead" thing was a really stupid phrase.

also alt+0153 my bro.

# ? Jul 7, 2017 21:41

Genocyber: Jun 4, 2012

mojo1701a posted:

How much of a step back would it be to pick up Dark Souls or whatever the first games were? I've only played Bloodborne.

On a similar note: I was originally expecting something Skyrim-ish. Wow was it a surprise.

Skyrim and Bloodborne are perhaps about as polar opposite you can get while still being in the same-ish genre. I can only imagine the whiplash from what you got vs. what you expected.

I think you can enjoy the earlier Souls games if you started with Bloodborne, and perhaps enjoy them more than if you had started with them since you're attuned to Bloodborne's more aggressive playstyle. It's something that works just as well in the Souls games, it's just not something the game coerces you into as much thanks to shields and the general gameplay design. The main thing you'll have to adjust to is the significantly slower game speed.

# ? Jul 7, 2017 21:43

Pittsburgh Lambic: Feb 16, 2011

Deified Data posted:

"Gamers". People that play games and live otherwise well-adjusted, balanced lives, however, are cool.

yeah, it's possible to like videogames without being part of gaming culture

# ? Jul 7, 2017 22:05

Intrinsic Field Marshal: Sep 6, 2014; by SA Support Robot

OwlFancier posted:

I'd like to add the OwlFancier postulation to that list: C) Gamers are, as a rule, proper garbo. Avoid them.

Didnt you hear?

Gamers are dead

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OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:

Didnt you hear?

Gamers are dead

And yet still, you post.

# ? Jul 7, 2017 22:25

Intrinsic Field Marshal: Sep 6, 2014; by SA Support Robot

OwlFancier posted:

And yet still, you post.

I'm a brain in jar making shitposts

# ? Jul 7, 2017 22:29

Groovelord Neato: Dec 6, 2014

Who What Now posted:

Gamers are people that substitute videogames for a personality. If you live a well-adjusted, balanced life you are not a True Gamer^{^{^TM}}

i find the idea of "gamer" as an identity funny because i read far more often than i game but i'd never identify myself as a "reader". it's just not a core aspect of my being i just enjoy reading a lot.

mojo1701a posted:

How much of a step back would it be to pick up Dark Souls or whatever the first games were? I've only played Bloodborne.

ds3 is far more bloodborne-like than the other games as they went with speedier enemies and bosses (the final dlc boss is like orphan of kos and the dark souls 1 dlc boss had a baby). you may find the other games easier as bloodborne has already set you up to be more aggressive and you've probably already beat the boss that took me the most tries in the entire series (martyr logarius). the thing you'll miss most is no rally system but you'll also never have to farm healing as your estus flask refills at bonfires or on death.

Groovelord Neato fucked around with this message at 22:36 on Jul 7, 2017

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Ytlaya: Nov 13, 2005

I'm not as big of a fan of Hbomberguy's video game videos, because while the points he makes are reasonable enough he frequently treats things that are a matter of taste/opinion as if they're objectively good or bad.

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Groovelord Neato: Dec 6, 2014

such as?

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I AM GRANDO: Aug 20, 2006

This will always be my favorite political statement on and by the gamer mentality vis a vis politics:

https://techraptor.net/content/gamergate-media-gave-away-america

quote:

GamerGate: How the Media Gave Away America
Todd Wohling / November 8, 2014 at 8:00 AM / Gaming, Gaming Opinions
gop climate - GamerGate: How the Media Gave Away America
I hate myself for what I did Tuesday.
I remember voting for the first time in 1994. Walking in to a small community center in a village of less than 500 in rural Wisconsin with my parents filled me with a Capraesque sense of awe. Maybe it was the echoes of people shuffling through a basketball court that could only come from Hoosiers; maybe it was the act of punching an actual ballot for the first time; or maybe it was the feeling of finally being able to affect change, in an infinitesimal way, after hearing my parents talk about labor relations, income disparity, and a woman�s right to choose what she does with her own body for the overwhelming majority of my childhood. Up until Tuesday, the act of casting a ballet gave me the same kind of feeling that Jimmy Stewart injected in to Jefferson Smith in Mr. Smith Goes to Washington, or for something more modern, up until Tuesday I felt the same since of civic pride from casting a ballot as I did for knowing the words to I�m Just a Bill on Capitol Hill, or acting as Speaker of the House for the mock Congress in my American Government class in high school.

That first election was not without controversy. There was a referendum on the ballot for funding for a new high school building. The educators at my high school took it upon themselves to bring everyone that was going to be 18 on Election Day into the band room so they could show us all how to vote, �in favor of the school funding issue.� I remember talking with my parents at dinner on the day of about how we were shown how to vote. Above all, I remember listening to, and later participating in, an uncountable number of conversations around the dinner table: Organized labor (my parents combined have been members of unions for roughly 50 years), butter > guns, the need for strict separation between church and state, and a desire to ensure that everyone had equal opportunity for life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
I am was a liberal. I am was not ashamed to call myself one, even after moving to Colorado and taking a job in a conservative pocket of the tech industry, where unashamed liberals are the vast minority. I would regularly hold court on Fridays while our design team was eating breakfast together; it got so �bad� at one point that I was given the nickname �Pinko Todd� in honor of my rampant socialist rantings.
After Tuesday, I don�t know that I can call myself a liberal anymore.
It�s not that I don�t want to call myself a liberal. After all, as I understand liberal ideals, I still believe in most of them, if not all of them. No, I guess I�m not a liberal anymore because Bustle, The Verge, Salon, Polygon, Kotaku, Gamasutra, The Mary Sue, The NY Times, The LA Times, The Washington Post, MSNBC, and others spent the last 2 months telling me I�m no longer wanted as an unashamed, voting liberal. They did this based on my primary hobby and the Y chromosome I was born with. They did this after some of them told me I was dead or needed to die for the crime of holding my primary hobby as a part of my identity. They did this because some people I don�t know made threats against people I�d never heard of before; subsequently, I was told I needed to die because of my Y chromosome and my hobby.
And for what? The nebulous notion of making gaming �better� than it is now? To stroke the sense of entitlement of self-proclaimed �game developers�? To turn game developer into the third vocation in human history that is competence optional behind politician and journalist (apparently)? Equality of Outcomes between AAA game development, good independent game development, and terrible independent game development? An esoteric notion of games as art, based on meaningless definitions of �gamer� and �game� combined with a pejorative definition of �consumerism�? A wanton desire to usurp the will of the consumer and the creative process?
I hope character assassinating gamers without regard for collateral damage over the last 2 months was worth it.
Tuesday resulted in several firsts for me. I�d never voted full ticket�not in 20 years of participating in my civic duty. I did on Tuesday. I�ve often considered or voted for third party candidates when at the polls over the last 20 years. Tuesday I did not. Over the past 20 years, I�d spent between 2 and 6 weeks studying candidates and ballot measures to be as informed as possible. This election cycle, I was finished in hours. On this day, I stand before you to say that I did my part to hand the Legislative branch of the American government to the Republicans. Not that one vote matters in the grand scheme of things, but every traditionally Democratic vote that goes Republican is a two vote swing. So the Republicans own the Senate, but not with a �super majority� to completely dictate terms legislatively.
From my new perspective after Tuesday, it�s one down and three to go: Super majority in the Senate, the Presidency, and one Supreme Court justice. I�m disgusted for writing that last sentence.
What choice did I have? It would appear that the DiGRA was right�The Playful is Political. It would also appear that my politics are now a matter of survival for pieces of my identity that I hold dear. It can never be emphasized enough that 10 news outlets on the same day said I was dead or needed to die because of those parts of my identity. Will I forgive? Eventually. Time heals all wounds, after all. Will I forget? Never. The imgur�s will exist forever, as will the archives and screen caps of everything the hypocrites, charlatans, and their willing media puppets said and did to make me question two parts of my identity: gamer and liberal. It is only by force of will and self-determination that I don�t let those people immure me in self-doubt and regret. Right now, there is virtually no price too high for them to pay for what they tried to do to my identity.
There are roughly 730 days until Election Day 2016. The media that drove me away from my political leanings is going to need every one of those days to convince me that bashing gamers from August 28th until Tuesday was just a misunderstanding. They will need every one of those days to convince me that my input into the liberal ideology is valued regardless of my hobbies, support for GamerGate, or my gender. The alternative is to hand both the Legislative and Executive branch of the US Government over to Republicans, and as I found out on Tuesday, it is well within my capability to do so.
Tick tock. Tick tock.

# ? Jul 7, 2017 22:44

Intrinsic Field Marshal: Sep 6, 2014; by SA Support Robot

business hammocks posted:

This will always be my favorite political statement on and by the gamer mentality vis a vis politics:

https://techraptor.net/content/gamergate-media-gave-away-america

Gamergate turned many into hardcore alt-righters. Hell 4chan was still mainly a libertarian board at heart before gamergate with certain boards like /co/ and /lit/ shifting to the right.

I don't know why but writing articles calling male gamers out for the actions of a minority of shitheads with too much time on their hands was not going to piss these people off.

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OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

Groovelord Neato posted:

such as?

Yeah I'd be interested to hear too 'cos I don't think I'd characterize it that way.

# ? Jul 7, 2017 22:55

SHY NUDIST GRRL: Feb 15, 2011; Communism will help more white people than anyone else. Any equal measures unfairly provide less to minority populations just because there's less of them. Democracy is truly the tyranny of the mob.

Who What Now posted:

Gamers are people that substitute videogames for a personality. If you live a well-adjusted, balanced life you are not a True Gamer^{^{^TM}}

It's not personality they're making up for. It's tribe. They need to belong to something so they pick the lowest common denominator of aimless losers like them

# ? Jul 7, 2017 23:06

Great Metal Jesus: Jun 11, 2007; Got no use for psychiatry
I can talk to the voices
in my head for free
Mood swings like an axe
Into those around me
My tongue is a double agent

A woman's right to choose and participation in labor unions? Huh yeah those are pretty important I guess. But you know what's REALLY important? Keeping females out of my video games!

Seriously I even clicked through to some of that tool's links to see who was calling for his death and the worst I saw was just saying the umbrella of gamers should broaden to include more than just people who play AAA Blockbusters. Oh no. The horror.

# ? Jul 7, 2017 23:11

I AM GRANDO: Aug 20, 2006

"Sorry ladies, guess your bodily autonomy is just another casualty of gamergate! Anita Sarkeesian should have thought of that before saying those things about Zelda."

# ? Jul 7, 2017 23:15

zxqv8: Oct 21, 2010; Did somebody call about a Ravager problem?

Wow, that is one of the stupidest screeds I've ever read.

# ? Jul 7, 2017 23:17

Dongicus: Jun 12, 2015

I'm going to Power Stance two Dragonslayer's straight into the skull of the next person to talk about Gamergate.

# ? Jul 8, 2017 03:29

Dapper_Swindler: Feb 14, 2012; Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Deified Data posted:

Two schools of thought:

A)The Matt Christman. No such thing as moral consumption. Everything is evil and counter-revolutionary. Any time spent gaming is time you could spend protesting, chain smoking, or posting ironically.

B) The end game of leftism is shrinking time spent at work and growing time spent at home, pursuing hobbies, however trivial. Gaming is a hobby. The revolution needs to happen so i can play Civ all day.

pretty much. i like christman alot but his poo poo sometimes make my eyes roll hard. meanwhile he jerks off to every pretentious movie. he sounds like he legit wants a loving insect society sometimes. i mean i will take radicalbytes moralizing bullshit over that.

Ytlaya posted:

I'm not as big of a fan of Hbomberguy's video game videos, because while the points he makes are reasonable enough he frequently treats things that are a matter of taste/opinion as if they're objectively good or bad.

he was right about fallout 3 and i sorta like that game despite it being crap . new vegas was 3 and is basicaly 3 but better.

Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:

Gamergate turned many into hardcore alt-righters. Hell 4chan was still mainly a libertarian board at heart before gamergate with certain boards like /co/ and /lit/ shifting to the right.

I don't know why but writing articles calling male gamers out for the actions of a minority of shitheads with too much time on their hands was not going to piss these people off.

sorta. i think they didnt help. but it was stupid that it ever got that big in the first place. then again i think gamer gate was going to happen regardless at some point and the quinn/ no more gamers reaction, lit the match. honestly at least from what i have seen/read, gamergate is kinda dead. i mean the targets are still targets but now its just part of broad alt right spectrum instead of focus.

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Groovelord Neato: Dec 6, 2014

this owns a lot

https://twitter.com/JeffGrubb/status/883484722885607424

# ? Jul 8, 2017 06:41

Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Ytlaya posted:

I'm not as big of a fan of Hbomberguy's video game videos, because while the points he makes are reasonable enough he frequently treats things that are a matter of taste/opinion as if they're objectively good or bad.

Groovelord Neato posted:

such as?

"These people aren't having fun because they are focusing intently on the game they are playing" was one bit that stood out.

# ? Jul 8, 2017 07:00

NikkolasKing: Apr 3, 2010

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5UZ1KM7ZFY

This really has become my fave YT news channel.

NikkolasKing fucked around with this message at 11:57 on Jul 8, 2017

# ? Jul 8, 2017 07:12

Intrinsic Field Marshal: Sep 6, 2014; by SA Support Robot

Dapper_Swindler posted:

sorta. i think they didnt help. but it was stupid that it ever got that big in the first place. then again i think gamer gate was going to happen regardless at some point and the quinn/ no more gamers reaction, lit the match. honestly at least from what i have seen/read, gamergate is kinda dead. i mean the targets are still targets but now its just part of broad alt right spectrum instead of focus.

Theres still that gamergate general on 8chan but its basically dead except for committed spergs who cant let go. However as seen with the The Last Night the other side had problems letting go trying to censor the guy for his pro-gamergate views basically dumping a gallon of petrol onto the dying embers of a movement that has moved on or grown sick of the fighting.

# ? Jul 8, 2017 07:29

Intrinsic Field Marshal: Sep 6, 2014; by SA Support Robot

Groovelord Neato posted:

this owns a lot

https://twitter.com/JeffGrubb/status/883484722885607424

wtf I hate notch now

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# ? Jul 8, 2017 07:31

Somfin: Oct 25, 2010; In my🦚 experience🛠️ the big things🌑 don't teach you anything🤷‍♀️.; Nap Ghost

Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:

wtf I hate notch now

Oh, IFM, Notch has always been a piece of poo poo.

He just also happens to be a piece of poo poo in a lot of ways that a lot of groups can quietly ignore. He ripped off his friends, he stole the idea for his only good game, he hates women, he hates gays, and he's honestly confused why his money isn't magically getting him replacement friends and unpaid-for sex.

He's also really smug and certain that he's a lot smarter than he actually is.

# ? Jul 8, 2017 09:36

Terrible Opinions: Oct 18, 2013

He has also always been a douche about donating huge amount to GDQ for attention. Like he's always expecting some massive backpat and thanks for it.

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# ? May 11, 2024 20:25

SHY NUDIST GRRL: Feb 15, 2011; Communism will help more white people than anyone else. Any equal measures unfairly provide less to minority populations just because there's less of them. Democracy is truly the tyranny of the mob.

Gamergate as a banner is obsolete because being racist is cool and extremely good now. They don't to hide behind the surrogate identity of gamer.

# ? Jul 8, 2017 12:48

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