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So here is some exceptional multimedia storytelling. I had to check and see if it was written by SwiftOnSecurity at first. https://www.sbnation.com/a/17776-football/
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# ? Jul 6, 2017 18:18 |
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Solitair posted:I'm halfway through Ninefox Gambit myself, and even though I don't know what exactly their calendrical magitech is supposed to symbolize or how it works, I get what's happening and where the characters are coming from. Well I am sure he contributed, but given GRRM's proclivities recently this blurb from Amazon quote:In a collaboration that’s been years in the making, Martin has teamed with Elio M. García, Jr., and Linda Antonsson, the founders of the renowned fan site Westeros.org—perhaps the only people who know this world almost as well as its visionary creator. Makes me think it was mostly these two writing/worldbuilding gaps in GRRM's story. (Maybe even pillaging them from the forums proper written by others) and he just was like "cool if I write a few short stories/notes, we can slap my name on it and we can make some money".
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# ? Jul 6, 2017 18:32 |
I'm looking for a new fantasy epic to read. I've already read Malazan and Wheel of time.
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# ? Jul 6, 2017 18:40 |
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SSJ_naruto_2003 posted:I'm looking for a new fantasy epic to read. I've already read Malazan and Wheel of time. Bakker :canofworms:
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# ? Jul 6, 2017 19:04 |
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Cardiac posted:Bakker The new book arrived today, he doesn't mention rape until page 27!
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# ? Jul 6, 2017 19:17 |
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Kesper North posted:So here is some exceptional multimedia storytelling. I had to check and see if it was written by SwiftOnSecurity at first. That was pretty drat neat.
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# ? Jul 6, 2017 19:37 |
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SSJ_naruto_2003 posted:I'm looking for a new fantasy epic to read. I've already read Malazan and Wheel of time. First Law
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# ? Jul 6, 2017 20:06 |
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Strom Cuzewon posted:The new book arrived today, he doesn't mention rape until page 27! Was that after or before the cannibalism and the incest? I can't remember.
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# ? Jul 6, 2017 20:42 |
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SSJ_naruto_2003 posted:I'm looking for a new fantasy epic to read. I've already read Malazan and Wheel of time. Does Book of the New Sun count as fantasy? Or epic?
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# ? Jul 6, 2017 21:02 |
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Kesper North posted:So here is some exceptional multimedia storytelling. I had to check and see if it was written by SwiftOnSecurity at first. President Trump followed by Tom Cotton followed by Tulsi Gabbard. You get a completely different perspective on that as the story progresses though! Very neat, thoroughly enjoyable, even if I don't know anything about American football.
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# ? Jul 6, 2017 21:21 |
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Cardiac posted:Was that after or before the cannibalism and the incest? I can't remember. Before one, after the other. The body horror/religious fervour mix is hitting home a lot harder than his earlier books. The writing is overwrought as gently caress still, but Proyas is just a delight.
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# ? Jul 6, 2017 21:54 |
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StrixNebulosa posted:Yes. This post is accurate. I'm rereading Chanur's Venture right now and it's the kind of breathless plotting and writing that has me staying up an hour late to turn pages. But touch anything early in her career and it gets... uncomfortably dark/difficult to read - like, it's interesting, but so bleak. And read too late in her career and something's light, not quite as tight as it could be. I will say that one of the sequences in one of the latest atevi books was so good I immediately forgave the occasional slogs, so she hasn't lost the touch, but it's now wrapped up in how much she loves the atevi - which I do, sometimes, and I don't, sometimes. (...I'm probably going to reread the entire sequence again in a few years, sucker that I am for her writing style.) Oh hey, someone else who pulls out books to re-read favourite scenes.
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# ? Jul 6, 2017 23:02 |
ToxicFrog posted:Oh hey, someone else who pulls out books to re-read favourite scenes. I do that. I've read the arena fight scene in Red Country more times than I care to admit. It's short and to the point but oh so wonderful.
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# ? Jul 6, 2017 23:24 |
That but the entire book that involves the Chain of Dogs
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# ? Jul 6, 2017 23:40 |
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I reread Deadhouse Gates for the first time a little while ago. The book is even better the second time round. And somehow even more soul crushing.
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# ? Jul 6, 2017 23:50 |
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Solitair posted:Does Book of the New Sun count as fantasy? Or epic? Yes. Read that one, SSJ_naruto_2003
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# ? Jul 6, 2017 23:52 |
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SSJ_naruto_2003 posted:I'm looking for a new fantasy epic to read. I've already read Malazan and Wheel of time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saga_of_Pliocene_Exile
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# ? Jul 6, 2017 23:56 |
my bony fealty posted:Yes. Thanks. I think I actually have a hard copy of Book of the New Sun around here... I found it at a thrift store iirc.
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# ? Jul 7, 2017 00:04 |
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Strom Cuzewon posted:Before one, after the other. I'm 2 books behind counting this newest one. I spent the last month rereading the first 5, and... I just can't bring myself to keep going. The good parts (the parts where actual things that matter happen) are like 1 page out of 50. Just started Downbelow Station instead after seeing it mentioned in this thread a few times. Liking it a lot so far.
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# ? Jul 7, 2017 06:36 |
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my bony fealty posted:Yes. i feel this is not an appropriate recommendation for someone seeking out something in the mould of epic fantasy. it is, however, an excellent general recommendation (although my starter Wolfe recommendation is always The Fifth Head of Cerberus, which is much more digestible. It does lack a bit for the beautiful imagery, though the prose is characteristically excellent, but a lot of the sci-fi ideas Wofle describes through the flowery language in the New Sun is going to be lost on those not into sci-fi anyway.)
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# ? Jul 7, 2017 07:18 |
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Strom Cuzewon posted:Before one, after the other. It was more a jab about the fact that most seem upset about specifically the rapes in Bakkers books, but are apparently not that concerned about torture, genocide, cannibalism, massmurder and all other atrocities performed in the series. It is basically atrocities the whole way down. I am rather exhausted by the whole series and should really read something lighter next time.
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# ? Jul 7, 2017 07:36 |
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To all who're pining for more Alliance-Union, Cherryh has Alliance Rising coming out after the next Atevi book.
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# ? Jul 7, 2017 11:39 |
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rmdx posted:To all who're pining for more Alliance-Union, Cherryh has Alliance Rising coming out after the next Atevi book. Holy poo poo. Wake me up, I'm dreaming. She doesn't write anything but atevi stuff anymore - ! e: oh my god it's real it's on her blog, there's a wordcounter, she's written most of it! Thank you!
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# ? Jul 7, 2017 11:49 |
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I can't tell if this is a joke post. I actually have all those books but I'm sure they're long since out of print. They're pretty pulpy from what I recall. I would put them above Dragonlance/Forgotten Realms stuff but that's not saying much.
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# ? Jul 7, 2017 14:32 |
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Kesper North posted:So here is some exceptional multimedia storytelling. I had to check and see if it was written by SwiftOnSecurity at first. Is this not done yet? I'm really enjoying it but have come up against a "to be continued bit." Also this is weird for me because I used to kick about on a forum with the author in the mid-2000s when I was a teenager, and I'd completely forgotten about that until now. The idea of having an internet past is weird.
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# ? Jul 7, 2017 16:02 |
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freebooter posted:Is this not done yet? I'm really enjoying it but have come up against a "to be continued bit." Nah - only 4 parts up out of what looks like 5 total.
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# ? Jul 7, 2017 17:13 |
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freebooter posted:Is this not done yet? I'm really enjoying it but have come up against a "to be continued bit." I posted a bit to Usenet forums Charlie Stross haunted in the mid to late 90s. I mostly remember him as a B-list alt.peeves contributor.
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# ? Jul 7, 2017 17:31 |
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Loutre posted:I'm 2 books behind counting this newest one. I spent the last month rereading the first 5, and... I just can't bring myself to keep going. The good parts (the parts where actual things that matter happen) are like 1 page out of 50. So that's White Luck Warrior? It's appropriately enough a bit of a slog. There's some great stuff at the start and the end, but then it's all padded out with turbo-Oedipus and Achamian yelling at trees. To amuse yourself, try counting the number of times Bakker uses the construction "BLANK, the famed BLANK of BLANK"
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# ? Jul 7, 2017 18:34 |
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Velius posted:I can't tell if this is a joke post. I actually have all those books but I'm sure they're long since out of print. They're pretty pulpy from what I recall. I would put them above Dragonlance/Forgotten Realms stuff but that's not saying much. The really mindblowing thing about them, to me, is that somehow The Many-Colored Land won the Locus for Best Novel in 1982 (and additionally came in third for the Hugo). That's beating out thread-favorite Downbelow Station... and also Project Pope, The Claw of the Conciliator, and The Divine Invasion. 1982 was not at all a bad year and yet that middling-to-okay book won?
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# ? Jul 7, 2017 18:44 |
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DACK FAYDEN posted:They're pretty pulpy, yeah. Good reads, though. I always thought Julian May was a pretty unique and interesting writer, I've only read the Galactic Milieu trilogy but they were quite well done.
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# ? Jul 7, 2017 18:51 |
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Velius posted:I can't tell if this is a joke post. I actually have all those books but I'm sure they're long since out of print. They're pretty pulpy from what I recall. I would put them above Dragonlance/Forgotten Realms stuff but that's not saying much. They're all available on Kindle. I'm reasonably certain my paperback copies are in my parents' attic in a box somewhere.
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# ? Jul 7, 2017 18:54 |
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Velius posted:I can't tell if this is a joke post. I actually have all those books but I'm sure they're long since out of print. They're pretty pulpy from what I recall. I would put them above Dragonlance/Forgotten Realms stuff but that's not saying much. Why would it be a joke post..? Julian May is a very underrated, underappreciated writer and I wanted to suggest something that hasn't already been brought up a million times. Her Boreal Moon saga is also very good and actually is unreservedly epic fantasy, not to mention Galactic Milieu, which is essentially "The Kennedys Develop Psychic Powers". I just finished The Moon And The Other which is a pretty fearless and modern exploration of gender issues -- on the moon. It was pretty great.
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# ? Jul 7, 2017 19:11 |
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rmdx posted:To all who're pining for more Alliance-Union, Cherryh has Alliance Rising coming out after the next Atevi book. I mean, in an ideal world she'd be kicking off a new series set in the Compact, but I will read the poo poo out of this.
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# ? Jul 7, 2017 20:18 |
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General Battuta posted:I always thought Julian May was a pretty unique and interesting writer, I've only read the Galactic Milieu trilogy but they were quite well done.
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# ? Jul 7, 2017 20:53 |
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ToxicFrog posted:Oh hey, someone else who pulls out books to re-read favourite scenes. Same, but with me it's most often Bujold. For instance Barrayar, the "shopping" scene and the lead-up to it. Goddamn.
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# ? Jul 7, 2017 22:52 |
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Groke posted:Same, but with me it's most often Bujold. For instance Barrayar, the "shopping" scene and the lead-up to it. Goddamn. I should get back into Bujold at some point, I read the first...2? Vorkosigan books and enjoyed them but not enough to read the entire series in one go.
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# ? Jul 8, 2017 00:27 |
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DACK FAYDEN posted:I have to admit I only read the first two of the Pliocene Exile books. They read wel enough that I'd be willing to consider buying a book in the different setting by JM but not well enough that I wanted to finish that quartet. So what the heck, I'll add it to the list (especially if you're the one recommending it) and see where it gets me. You stopped right before the Nonborn King which is a great book.
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# ? Jul 8, 2017 02:38 |
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Going through the Book of the New Sun for the first time. Thought it was a little slow and odd at first, but I'm most of the way through Claw of the Conciliator and it's like a river that keeps picking up speed. Really outstanding prose, too. I can see what all the fuss is about.
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# ? Jul 8, 2017 04:36 |
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ToxicFrog posted:I should get back into Bujold at some point, I read the first...2? Vorkosigan books and enjoyed them but not enough to read the entire series in one go. She does take a couple of books to hit her stride... this is nowhere easier to see than in the Shards of Honor/Barrayar duology (1986 and 1991 respectively, with a few other books written in between).
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# ? Jul 8, 2017 07:54 |
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DACK FAYDEN posted:They're pretty pulpy, yeah. Good reads, though. Audience appeal. It's all about dressing up in your favourite costume and going to I'm not saying it's bad, I like it, it's a fun pulp series. Though I could do without the Kennedys-with-X-Men-powers prequels. I wanted more about the cool aliens in the Milieu, but they hardly got a look-in.
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# ? Jul 8, 2017 09:21 |