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Lumpy the Cook
Feb 4, 2011

Drippy-goo-yay, mother-gunker!
for content, here's an oldie but a goodie:

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Blue Train
Jun 17, 2012

what the gently caress

A Handed Missus
Aug 6, 2012


Blue Train posted:

what the gently caress

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


uh oh deray is on the edge of badmouthing a brand

https://twitter.com/deray/status/883499135294476288


otoh he also wants a pair of male rompers

https://twitter.com/deray/status/883500162370482176

FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

Wraith of J.O.I. posted:

uh oh deray is on the edge of badmouthing a brand

https://twitter.com/deray/status/883499135294476288


otoh he also wants a pair of male rompers

https://twitter.com/deray/status/883500162370482176

...wait I thought BERNIE Bros were into that stuff?

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Lumpy the Cook posted:

Remember how people were calling for James Comey to be tried for high treason when he released that Clinton letter or w/e, and then a few months later Trump fired him and suddenly poo poo like this was everywhere



lol jesus. honestly, i am mixed on IC and i am giant lefty and they have done a number of loving awful things both here and abroad. but I am taking homeland security as minor and the professor teaching it(criminal justice, did DEA work amongst other poo poo) is giant lefty bernie supporter who shits on the right constantly and talks about ending the drug war and universal healthcare. i may end up working at one of those places someday. its mindboggling how complex all the poo poo is and various inter agency bullshit. so idk how i feel. i think the liberals are being fools about it though. on comey. i personaly think he is probably a Ok guy who threw clinton under the bus over stupid poo poo(not why she lost) and then probaly realized trump was loving nuts.

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

Lumpy the Cook posted:

Remember how people were calling for James Comey to be tried for high treason when he released that Clinton letter or w/e, and then a few months later Trump fired him and suddenly poo poo like this was everywhere

Yeah, this is a good example.

Liberals don't so much have an ideology and vision for the future as they have a certain set of characteristics and concepts they have have positive feelings about, and whether a particular political view is tied with those characteristics determines whether they support it. For example, liberals generally have positive associations with stuff like the following:

- Education
- Professionalism (defined either in terms of jobs requiring certain credentials or a certain level of education)
- Calmness (or the tendency to not get emotional)
- Agreeability/amiability
- Various indicators of "middle/upper class urban/suburban life" (being relatively well dressed, having a sharp haircut, etc)
- Having a "neutral" accent (in America, that is)

It's actually very similar to how conservatives will support political ideas as long as they see them associated with concepts and ideas associated with "country/rural culture". Just like conservatives will view a politician favorably if they act like they're rural and sport a southern or Texan accent, liberals will view politicians favorably if they speak with a "neutral" accent and generally look and sound highly educated.

Ytlaya has issued a correction as of 03:11 on Jul 8, 2017

im on the net me boys
Feb 19, 2017

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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:

uh oh deray is on the edge of badmouthing a brand

https://twitter.com/deray/status/883499135294476288


otoh he also wants a pair of male rompers

https://twitter.com/deray/status/883500162370482176

Look I literally don't have a problem with men wearing rompers but let's quit pretending that "male rompers" are happening

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Ytlaya posted:

Yeah, this is a good example.

Liberals don't so much have an ideology and vision for the future as they have a certain set of characteristics and concepts they have have positive feelings about, and whether a particular political view is tied with those characteristics determines whether they support it. For example, liberals generally have positive associations with stuff like the following:

- Education
- Professionalism (defined either in terms of jobs requiring certain credentials or a certain level of education)
- Calmness (or the tendency to not get emotional)
- Agreeability/amiability
- Various indicators of "middle/upper class urban/suburban life" (being relatively well dressed, having a sharp haircut, etc)
- Having a "neutral" accent (in America, that is)

It's actually very similar to how conservatives will support political ideas as long as they see them associated with concepts and ideas associated with "country/rural culture". Just like conservatives will view a politician favorably if they act like they're rural and sport a southern or Texan accent, liberals will view politicians favorably if they speak with a "neutral" accent and generally look and sound highly educated.

pretty much. its this west wing type ideology where its not about actually content or policy or power, but about jerking off the ideals of it or how well the argument is constructed.

anyway. this popped up on jezebel.
http://themuse.jezebel.com/i-m-tire...dium=socialflow

fun times. i get what she says, but she comes off as angry and bitter and i am saddened that interracial couples (any race with any race) is apparently "problematic" to the "left".

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Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.
This kinda poo poo makes my blood boil

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Dreddout posted:

This kinda poo poo makes my blood boil

the interracial rant or this poo poo in general?

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

Dapper_Swindler posted:

the interracial rant or this poo poo in general?

The interracial rant

But I'm coming at this from the perspective of a brown man who is dating a white woman

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Dreddout posted:

The interracial rant

But I'm coming at this from the perspective of a brown man who is dating a white woman

And you don't like it when someone points out that your girlfriend is racist for dating you because of your exotic otherness and you're racist for rejecting the women of your culture and accepting white supremacy?

Wow.

Milkfred E. Moore
Aug 27, 2006

'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'
that's crazy. i remember just a few years ago doing my masters where the talk was that on-screen relationships between a man of color and a white woman were progressive because it was the opposite of the more exploitative white man and 'exotic' woman and it went against the racist notion that white women had to be 'protected' from men of other ethnicities.

but now apparently it's bad? i don't understand pop culture leftist thought.

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

Guy Goodbody posted:

And you don't like it when someone points out that your girlfriend is racist for dating you because of your exotic otherness and you're racist for rejecting the women of your culture and accepting white supremacy?

Wow.

I was trying to say I'm hopelessly biased against it so I can't be objective.

I don't even like thinking about my relationship as "interracial" because that well has been so thoroughly poisened and I need my partner to get away from that kinda poo poo

got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

by Cyrano4747
lolwut, black men famously arent allowed to kiss white women in movies. it's not an official rule but it's almost never allowed

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde

got any sevens posted:

lolwut, black men famously arent allowed to kiss white women in movies. it's not an official rule but it's almost never allowed

unless it's will smith

he apparently gets a pass

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

Dapper_Swindler posted:

anyway. this popped up on jezebel.
http://themuse.jezebel.com/i-m-tire...dium=socialflow

fun times. i get what she says, but she comes off as angry and bitter and i am saddened that interracial couples (any race with any race) is apparently "problematic" to the "left".
i usually roll my eyes or laugh at hot take poo poo and move on, because the people who write them are usually pissing into the wind for clicks. but anti-miscegenation poo poo makes my skin crawl. it's been 50 years since Loving v. Virginia ended laws against interracial marriage ffs

that movie is based off of kumail nanjiani's real-life experience with his white wife, who was also in a coma early in their relationship. they say to write about what you know....

Dreddout posted:

I don't even like thinking about my relationship as "interracial" because that well has been so thoroughly poisened and I need my partner to get away from that kinda poo poo
that term has been poisoned, but not by the woke

FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

get that OUT of my face posted:

i usually roll my eyes or laugh at hot take poo poo and move on, because the people who write them are usually pissing into the wind for clicks. but anti-miscegenation poo poo makes my skin crawl. it's been 50 years since Loving v. Virginia ended laws against interracial marriage ffs

that movie is based off of kumail nanjiani's real-life experience with his white wife, who was also in a coma early in their relationship. they say to write about what you know....

that term has been poisoned, but not by the woke

What I see in a lot of the "woke" crowd is some weird traces of the "White man's burden" philosophy that existed in the early 20th century in regards to things such as culture and the like.

I think some of the northeastern schools and ivy league universities still have not gotten past their puritan roots in some ways. A lot of this narrative cuts across completely different from mainstream american thoughts on the subject.

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

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Slippery Tilde
i'm excited seeing the one-drop rule coming back bigly from liberals

and what this means for n-word usage

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

Milky Moor posted:

that's crazy. i remember just a few years ago doing my masters where the talk was that on-screen relationships between a man of color and a white woman were progressive because it was the opposite of the more exploitative white man and 'exotic' woman and it went against the racist notion that white women had to be 'protected' from men of other ethnicities.

but now apparently it's bad? i don't understand pop culture leftist thought.

It's only progressive if it tells people to gently caress ME.

Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008

by Athanatos
To be fair, the dems were for racial segregation longer than they were against it.

Woozy
Jan 3, 2006

Dapper_Swindler posted:

lol jesus. honestly, i am mixed on IC and i am giant lefty and they have done a number of loving awful things both here and abroad. but I am taking homeland security as minor and the professor teaching it(criminal justice, did DEA work amongst other poo poo) is giant lefty bernie supporter who shits on the right constantly and talks about ending the drug war and universal healthcare. i may end up working at one of those places someday. its mindboggling how complex all the poo poo is and various inter agency bullshit. so idk how i feel. i think the liberals are being fools about it though. on comey. i personaly think he is probably a Ok guy who threw clinton under the bus over stupid poo poo(not why she lost) and then probaly realized trump was loving nuts.

oh yea totally dude all the big lefties end up working in intelligence and law enforcement

got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

by Cyrano4747

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

unless it's will smith

he apparently gets a pass

nope. Hancock's infidelity subplot was excised, and the love interest in Hitch was made Latina.

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde

got any sevens posted:

nope. Hancock's infidelity subplot was excised, and the love interest in Hitch was made Latina.

in the first men in black his love interest is italian does that count

he tells he that he's lookin forward to seein her pussy and that was in '97



but yeah they had him kiss rosario dawson in the second one

and i suppose you gotta mention margot robbie in focus which is when all those articles started showin up

Zeris
Apr 15, 2003

Quality posting direct from my brain to your face holes.
Requiem for a Dream tho

Boosh!
Apr 12, 2002
Oven Wrangler

Milky Moor posted:


but now apparently it's bad? i don't understand pop culture leftist thought.

I would say it's very complicated. Bluntly put, there are few if no bigger signifier of having made it than having a white significant other. You will question yourself, and your family and ethnic circle will question you. I get dreddouts attitude 100%. It will drive you mad so why subject your partner to it.

But it is a big deal to us, nonetheless. Assimilation, interracial-dating, whitey Are topics our ethnic circles and family talk about it. These are things we typically do not talk about with our white friends. Conversations that go beyond Kumail's stereotypical "will my traditional family accept her?" (seemingly the only convos minority families have in hollywood). related: https://theringer.com/amp/p/43df83099ee

The three biggest projects featuring a brown man recently were Lion, Master of None and the Big Sick. There's a white woman at the end of the tunnel. I believe it is possible for other tales to be told.

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Uranium
Sep 11, 2001

Through constant decay
Uranium creates
the radioactive ray.



I really hope the hot take industry comes up with sensible guidelines for people who have yet to pick their significant other from the significant other store.

Boosh!
Apr 12, 2002
Oven Wrangler
On the next episode of Black Mirror

SMILLENNIALSMILLEN
Jun 26, 2009



Milky Moor posted:

that's crazy. i remember just a few years ago doing my masters where the talk was that on-screen relationships between a man of color and a white woman were progressive because it was the opposite of the more exploitative white man and 'exotic' woman and it went against the racist notion that white women had to be 'protected' from men of other ethnicities.

but now apparently it's bad? i don't understand pop culture leftist thought.

You heard one thing years ago and now a different person feels otherwise? But thats crazy

mrmcd
Feb 22, 2003

Pictured: The only good cop (a fictional one).

I like how she started from a point of "It would be neat to have more South Asian female leads" and somehow ended up writing a thousand words about "As a very well educated liberal, I have opinions about which races should be allowed to gently caress in movies". I'm not an unemployed humanities major though, so I don't really understand how this leftist critical theory stuff is supposed to work.

the bitcoin of weed
Nov 1, 2014

mrmcd posted:

I like how she started from a point of "It would be neat to have more South Asian female leads" and somehow ended up writing a thousand words about "As a very well educated liberal, I have opinions about which races should be allowed to gently caress in movies". I'm not an unemployed humanities major though, so I don't really understand how this leftist critical theory stuff is supposed to work.

depicting relationships between a white woman and a non-white man teaches men of color that it is good and normal to gently caress white women

this is bad because women of color are lonely, i guess

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

get that OUT of my face posted:

that term has been poisoned, but not by the woke

No doubt, but now the wokes are getting in on it too.

It's like if in 10 years wokes turned on gay marriage.

the bitcoin of weed posted:

depicting relationships between a white woman and a non-white man teaches men of color that it is good and normal to gently caress white women

this is bad because women of color are lonely, i guess
Maybe the women of color... Should gently caress white men?!

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

the bitcoin of weed posted:

depicting relationships between a white woman and a non-white man teaches men of color that it is good and normal to gently caress white women

this is bad because women of color are lonely, i guess

pretty much.


Dreddout posted:

No doubt, but now the wokes are getting in on it too.

It's like if in 10 years wokes turned on gay marriage.

Maybe the women of color... Should gently caress white men?!

they sorta are, they are turning on gay men at least. because they have privilege compared to trans/genderqueer/etc.

mrmcd
Feb 22, 2003

Pictured: The only good cop (a fictional one).

Dreddout posted:

Maybe the women of color... Should gently caress white men?!

Anyone having sex with white men is problematic.

the bitcoin of weed
Nov 1, 2014

Dreddout posted:

Maybe the women of color... Should gently caress white men?!

i think you'll find that this is colonialism

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

whomupclicklike posted:

Does this actually appeal to kids as much as they think it does

lol absolutely not

this isn't the first time they've tried this and it won't be the last

Blue Train
Jun 17, 2012

the bitcoin of weed posted:

i think you'll find that this is colonialism

Well I guess call me Christopher Columbus

Boosh!
Apr 12, 2002
Oven Wrangler

the bitcoin of weed posted:

depicting relationships between a white woman and a non-white man teaches men of color that it is good and normal to gently caress white women


We do not need to be taught that lesson. Not everyone is trying to defy their parents, but yknow, that wouldn't make for good drama.

The beef is: A white partner should not be treated as a prize. Kumail, Aziz, Mindy want to have it both ways, wagging their finger at woke liberals but signaling we made it.

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Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

:harambe:



The whole "loving people that aren't your race is racist" thing is case #47395848 that horseshoe theory is real but liberalism and conservatism are on each end with socialism being in the middle

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