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ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

unless it's will smith

he apparently gets a pass

No see he doesn't count because internalized racism or something.

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Lumpy the Cook
Feb 4, 2011

Drippy-goo-yay, mother-gunker!

Business Gorillas posted:

The whole "loving people that aren't your race is racist" thing is case #47395848 that horseshoe theory is real but liberalism and conservatism are on each end with socialism being in the middle

The_Rob
Feb 1, 2007

Blah blah blah blah!!
I'm a bit of a race nerd. if a minority isn't making the proper sound when downshifting I'm very aware of that.

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

Boosh! posted:

The beef is: A white partner should not be treated as a prize. Kumail, Aziz, Mindy want to have it both ways, wagging their finger at woke liberals but signaling we made it.
again with Kumail, that movie is based off of his own life experience. the entire point of a romantic comedy is "the woman is the prize," as stupid and outdated as it is

we shouldn't be directing our essays towards individual movies or tv shows doing this but to hollywood itself, which isn't anywhere nearly as culturally progressive in its attitudes as it's made out to be. it's similar to crying about how every oscar acting nominee is white when there are very few opportunities for nonwhite actors to even make it big. but thinkpieces don't concern themselves with big issues

FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

Business Gorillas posted:

The whole "loving people that aren't your race is racist" thing is case #47395848 that horseshoe theory is real but liberalism and conservatism are on each end with socialism being in the middle

This is controversial to say, and let me clarify it.

There are two groups of people out there. Authoritarians and Libertarians. . Note, I am not using Libertarian in the whole "Ayn Rand is God" :downs: way. I'm using it in the manner of someone being for things like legislation of marijuana, free speech, no wars and stuff, gay rights There are left and right wing versions of each. Pretty much someone going "Hey the Bill of Rights? That's cool and good".

Kyle Kulinski actually said this a few months a go about some groups wanting to ban some shithead conservative type from speaking on campus. "Let them speak. our ideas trounce their's anyways" was the overall gist of it,

an actual dog
Nov 18, 2014

Github has major issues with harassment and was accused of a discriminatory culture. They hired some of their major critics in order to make things better. It did not go well.

Boosh!
Apr 12, 2002
Oven Wrangler

get that OUT of my face posted:

again with Kumail, that movie is based off of his own life experience. the entire point of a romantic comedy is "the woman is the prize," as stupid and outdated as it is

Every show/movie with a brown person in recent memory ends with being coupled with a white person. Not another south asian, east asian, black, hispanic but white. Why can't I talk about this?

quote:

we shouldn't be directing our essays towards individual movies or tv shows doing this but to hollywood itself, which isn't anywhere nearly as culturally progressive in its attitudes as it's made out to be. it's similar to crying about how every oscar acting nominee is white when there are very few opportunities for nonwhite actors to even make it big. but thinkpieces don't concern themselves with big issues

Assimilation is big for us minorities. Who is representing us and how they are representing us matters a lot, moreso than you obviously think. I actually welcome more thinkpieces like this. These are topics we have been dying to talk about.

fits my needs
Jan 1, 2011

Grimey Drawer

Boosh! posted:

Every show/movie with a brown person in recent memory ends with being coupled with a white person. Not another south asian, east asian, black, hispanic but white. Why can't I talk about this?


Assimilation is big for us minorities. Who is representing us and how they are representing us matters a lot, moreso than you obviously think. I actually welcome more thinkpieces like this. These are topics we have been dying to talk about.

uhhh, yeah it's these lovely romantic comedies are the things that made me a brown dude want to date a white girl. lmao

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

i'm not saying "you're not allowed to talk about it," i'm saying that the focus shouldn't be on the individual movie, actor, plot line, etc. because that's the symptom of the problem and not the disease

there's a conversation to be had about "white woman as a prize" but it must never be framed in a context that can be construed as anti-miscegenation

Boosh!
Apr 12, 2002
Oven Wrangler

fits my needs posted:

uhhh, yeah it's these lovely romantic comedies are the things that made me a brown dude want to date a white girl. lmao

It's the pink nipples

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

an actual dog posted:

Github has major issues with harassment and was accused of a discriminatory culture. They hired some of their major critics in order to make things better. It did not go well.

that seems to be the deal with alot of the online/app based companies, then when the poo poo comes out, the pretend to go super woke or pinkwash themselves like uber did.

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

i read github and first thought it was one of those food delivery websites, but that was grubhub

Boosh!
Apr 12, 2002
Oven Wrangler

get that OUT of my face posted:

i'm not saying "you're not allowed to talk about it," i'm saying that the focus shouldn't be on the individual movie, actor, plot line, etc. because that's the symptom of the problem and not the disease

I get where you're coming from and there is no denying who the real boogeyman is. But I am not cynical enough to believe THIS is the only story that can be told by brown auteurs. I see a wide variety of content from black auteurs.

quote:

there's a conversation to be had about "white woman as a prize" but it must never be framed in a context that can be construed as anti-miscegenation

No question. I was not making this case just to be clear. I believe the author of that muse piece is mostly complaining about what I said above: this cannot be the only tale to be told.

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 218 days!

the bitcoin of weed posted:

i think you'll find that this is colonialism

but also white genocide

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

Blue Train posted:

Well I guess call me Christopher Columbus

Because you leave them regretting their decision for the rest of their existence?

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

Dapper_Swindler posted:

lol jesus. honestly, i am mixed on IC and i am giant lefty and they have done a number of loving awful things both here and abroad. but I am taking homeland security as minor and the professor teaching it(criminal justice, did DEA work amongst other poo poo) is giant lefty bernie supporter who shits on the right constantly and talks about ending the drug war and universal healthcare. i may end up working at one of those places someday. its mindboggling how complex all the poo poo is and various inter agency bullshit. so idk how i feel. i think the liberals are being fools about it though. on comey. i personaly think he is probably a Ok guy who threw clinton under the bus over stupid poo poo(not why she lost) and then probaly realized trump was loving nuts.

This! This is a perfect example of how people end up being "converted" to a pro-finance/military/whatever standpoint. I double-majored in finance and information systems at NYU Stern, which is a big feeder school for the major investment banks, hedge funds, etc like Goldman Sachs or DE Shaw and also ended up with this "well these people are really smart and seem to know what they're doing, so I can't imagine they're as bad as the dumb leftists are saying." Most of them (at least the younger ones) also tended to be liberal and disliked the right. And there's actually some truth to that; a lot of the leftists who attack these folks really are ignorant. But at the end of the day, the results of what they do are still undeniably bad. If you end up immersed in a social/professional group including these people, it's difficult to really see the harm in it (since you're just a cog in a greater machine that has a net negative impact, and the specific individuals you know are nice/smart people).

It's really uncanny seeing something like this, because it is basically a perfect representation of how I became a defender of the finance industry while in college. Like, just replace intelligence/homeland security with finance and it was basically the same.

Ytlaya has issued a correction as of 21:14 on Jul 8, 2017

Control Volume
Dec 31, 2008

Brands

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Boosh! posted:

We do not need to be taught that lesson. Not everyone is trying to defy their parents, but yknow, that wouldn't make for good drama.

The beef is: A white partner should not be treated as a prize. Kumail, Aziz, Mindy want to have it both ways, wagging their finger at woke liberals but signaling we made it.

Kumail literally married a white woman IRL and the movie is based on their relationship. It seems kinda hosed up to say that it was just to hypocritically brag that he won a white woman

And Aziz Ansari's character in Park and Rec's longest relationship was with Rashida Jones.

I can't speak to Mindy Kaling, as I am part of the demographic of "literally all humans" I never saw the Mindy Kaling show

Blue Train
Jun 17, 2012

MizPiz posted:

Because you leave them regretting their decision for the rest of their existence?

rekt

Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008

by Athanatos

http://green.nascar.com/

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Dapper_Swindler posted:

honestly, i am mixed on IC and i am giant lefty and they have done a number of loving awful things both here and abroad. but I am taking homeland security as minor and the professor teaching it(criminal justice, did DEA work amongst other poo poo) is giant lefty bernie supporter who shits on the right constantly and talks about ending the drug war and universal healthcare. i may end up working at one of those places someday.

lol

Boosh!
Apr 12, 2002
Oven Wrangler

Guy Goodbody posted:


And Aziz Ansari's character in Park and Rec's longest relationship was with Rashida Jones.


That's a little dishonest no?

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


yeah his longest relationship was clearly with jean ralphio

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Boosh! posted:

That's a little dishonest no?

no?

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

*Stupid Babby*

consumed by normies posted:

yeah his longest relationship was clearly with jean ralphio

He was fake married in the first season and a half

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
the first season doesn't count

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Ytlaya posted:

This! This is a perfect example of how people end up being "converted" to a pro-finance/military/whatever standpoint. I double-majored in finance and information systems at NYU Stern, which is a big feeder school for the major investment banks, hedge funds, etc like Goldman Sachs or DE Shaw and also ended up with this "well these people are really smart and seem to know what they're doing, so I can't imagine they're as bad as the dumb leftists are saying." Most of them (at least the younger ones) also tended to be liberal and disliked the right. And there's actually some truth to that; a lot of the leftists who attack these folks really are ignorant. But at the end of the day, the results of what they do are still undeniably bad. If you end up immersed in a social/professional group including these people, it's difficult to really see the harm in it (since you're just a cog in a greater machine that has a net negative impact, and the specific individuals you know are nice/smart people).

It's really uncanny seeing something like this, because it is basically a perfect representation of how I became a defender of the finance industry while in college. Like, just replace intelligence/homeland security with finance and it was basically the same.

yeah :( to be fair. i will probably end up at some museum/ history oriented government thing/national park. also the teacher i am talking about is like 65 or something. Its not that a view them as paragons of virtue or magical lefty/liberals. its more that i have always been interested in the field and i think id do ok in it and maybe i could help change it. idk :( as i said, ill probaly be some researcher in a museum because i am "working" at a local one currently.

Boosh!
Apr 12, 2002
Oven Wrangler

All my posts were about their auteur projects where they had creative control. Dating Anne Perkins for however long on PaR has no bearing.

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

*Stupid Babby*

Boosh! posted:

All my posts were about their auteur projects where they had creative control. Dating Anne Perkins for however long on PaR has no bearing.

If they are auteurs and art is an extension of their lives, and all of them are dating/married to white people, then what's the problem

Scrub-Niggurath
Nov 27, 2007

Boosh! posted:

Every show/movie with a brown person in recent memory ends with being coupled with a white person. Not another south asian, east asian, black, hispanic but white. Why can't I talk about this?

Actually the best show that came out in the past 2 years (Atlanta) doesn't

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Boosh! posted:

Every show/movie with a brown person in recent memory ends with being coupled with a white person. Not another south asian, east asian, black, hispanic but white. Why can't I talk about this?

Yea! Why can't they stick to their own kind like good minorities?

Anyone can date anyone. Deal with it.

an actual dog
Nov 18, 2014

you guys might be confused: that article is about fictional relationships not real ones

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

an actual dog posted:

you guys might be confused: that article is about fictional relationships not real ones

The main thing it talks about is The Big Sick, which is based of Kumail Nanjiani's actual IRL life

The Kingfish
Oct 21, 2015


liberals think it's messed up that a Indian man wouldn't end up with an Indian woman lol.

an actual dog
Nov 18, 2014

Guy Goodbody posted:

The main thing it talks about is The Big Sick, which is based of Kumail Nanjiani's actual IRL life

it's still a movie lol

Pomplamoose
Jun 28, 2008



Blue Train
Jun 17, 2012

I can help fund a sweatshop? Cool

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

real-life role models for women don't exist, watch wonder woman, now in theaters

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Blue Train posted:

I can help fund a sweatshop? Cool

yeah and if they dont pay you back you can gently caress them over.


anyone make any awful hot takes about spiderman yet?

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WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Dapper_Swindler posted:

anyone make any awful hot takes about spiderman yet?

I'm not really sure what hot takes are available to make, other than the usual tiny group of weirdos who get mad when a white character is recast as a black character.

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