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Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
austerity is violence

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Serf
May 5, 2011


consumed by normies posted:

dsa should just bite the bullet and organize along feudal lines where each member must provide a third of their harvest to the local org which in turn must provide a certain number of Socialist Knights to protest when called upon by national

the huey long protocol

the bitcoin of weed
Nov 1, 2014

SSJ_naruto_2003 posted:

money is worth a different amount there im pretty sure too.

but in this case they will be interns that the government pays the retailer to work. Like you work for someone, and they get paid, and you get half as much as normal. lol

why doesn't the government just pay the workers directly this makes zero sense

what the gently caress is wrong with australia

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


SSJ_naruto_2003 posted:

i couldn't afford anywhere near those dues unless there's a way to opt out of them for low-income members

https://dsaspringplatform.org/2017/07/07/the-case-for-monthly-dues/ posted:

Now, my proposed 1% plan won’t work for everybody. The costs associated with automatic cash transfers mean that it’s not worth it for DSA to accept monthly donations less than $10. So I propose that we have a separate category of dues for people with no or very low income, similar or identical to the low-income yearly option we currently have. Currently, members can opt for the low-income option and pay only $27 per year.

They don't make a specific proposal, and they frame it in a lovely way (again), but even the Spring Platform people want that. Whoever they are.

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

Tim Faust doing a good speech at our universal healthcare thing we organized. DSA is good.

ChickenOfTomorrow
Nov 11, 2012

god damn it, you've got to be kind

rumors of a street fight show in Chicago the day before the August convention. gonna come in a day early in case it's real and I can make it.

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
DSA needs better shirts

Strom Thermos
Sep 18, 2004

is this email about the DSA facebook group real or a great doxxing ?

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC
https://twitter.com/GideonResnick/status/883767262091636736

DSA members among counter-protesters of the KKK rally held in Charlottesville today.

skeemon
Aug 4, 2007

$ $ $T R A P L O R D $ $ $

Denver DSA goon checking in. Just coming out of our organizing meeting for July and it occurred to me that there must be a DSA thread hiding somewhere on SA. Extremely excited to see a fair number of Colorado dem socialists represented here

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Markorjoshua posted:

is this email about the DSA facebook group real or a great doxxing ?

post it. I received no such email.

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





skeemon posted:

Denver DSA goon checking in. Just coming out of our organizing meeting for July and it occurred to me that there must be a DSA thread hiding somewhere on SA. Extremely excited to see a fair number of Colorado dem socialists represented here

Hi! I was also there. There's a handful of us around and a few from Boulder and the rest of CO. The OP has a list, although I'm not sure if it was updated.

Strom Thermos
Sep 18, 2004

business hammocks posted:

post it. I received no such email.

Hi Everyone,



Welcome to DSA! My name is Julie, and I’m a member of the organization. You are receiving this email because you recently joined Democratic Socialists of America. We are glad you are joining us on this journey, especially during this challenging time. We are a diverse group of people located across the United States. We come from different backgrounds and have taken different paths to becoming socialists, but we work together to build a society that provides equality and democracy for all.



As a way to connect all of us across the country, we created a Facebook group for new members. It is a place to exchange ideas, ask questions, look for ways to volunteer, etc. As many of us are new to socialism, it's a safe space where we can grow and shape our beliefs in the presence of like-minded people. The group is "secret" by Facebook standards, which means that it cannot be seen or found via a search. Group membership and posts can only be seen by members of the group, which allows for some privacy.


Your participation in the group is voluntary. You should have already received an email from Facebook giving you the option to join. In order for the link to work, the email address you provided to DSA must be linked to your Facebook account, and your Facebook notification settings must allow emails. If you did not receive the link or received an error message, please check your spam and Facebook settings first and then feel free to contact me at this email address. I am happy to send the invitation to another email address if provided.



For those of you who may be concerned this is spam, I’ve copied our national membership coordinator.



I'm looking forward to connecting with you on Facebook and continuing the conversation.



In solidarity,



Julie

SomeMathGuy
Oct 4, 2014

The people were ASTONISHED at his doctrine.

I must say I'm weirdly excited for the centralist vs decentralist wedge issue to cause serious problems at the convention. I guess that's just a strong troublemaking instinct.

Also I co-sponsored the poo poo out of this, thanks for the link.

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


SomeMathGuy posted:

I must say I'm weirdly excited for the centralist vs decentralist wedge issue to cause serious problems at the convention. I guess that's just a strong troublemaking instinct.

Also I co-sponsored the poo poo out of this, thanks for the link.

I am too tbh. Its an interesting topic and the sooner its brought out the better

slicing up eyeballs
Oct 19, 2005

I got me two olives and a couple of limes


Markorjoshua posted:

is this email about the DSA facebook group real or a great doxxing ?

Pretty sure I got the same email when I joined, it's basically just to get you into the dsa new members fb page.

Iridium
Apr 4, 2002

Wretched Harp

slicing up eyeballs posted:

Pretty sure I got the same email when I joined, it's basically just to get you into the dsa new members fb page.

i definitely got it, yeah

no fb account tho so

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





Iridium posted:

i definitely got it, yeah

no fb account tho so

The amount of which DSA (and activism in general?) use Facebook drives me crazy. There's other tools out there, use them. Our chapter has an Action Network account, we've done training on it... and yet everything uses Facebook instead.

SomeMathGuy
Oct 4, 2014

The people were ASTONISHED at his doctrine.

Internet Explorer posted:

The amount of which DSA (and activism in general?) use Facebook drives me crazy. There's other tools out there, use them. Our chapter has an Action Network account, we've done training on it... and yet everything uses Facebook instead.

I think using Facebook is okay from the perspective of trying to reach as many people as possible, but it is a bit annoying that a fair amount of organizing seemingly occurs only on Facebook. It should never be an exclusive tool the way it sometimes seems to be with DSA.

skeemon
Aug 4, 2007

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Internet Explorer posted:

Hi! I was also there. There's a handful of us around and a few from Boulder and the rest of CO. The OP has a list, although I'm not sure if it was updated.

I was sitting directly to the chair's right, between him and our convention delegate (the one who is not secretary). I have a hunch as to who you are

Strom Thermos
Sep 18, 2004

slicing up eyeballs posted:

Pretty sure I got the same email when I joined, it's basically just to get you into the dsa new members fb page.

thanks Conrads

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





skeemon posted:

I was sitting directly to the chair's right, between him and our convention delegate (the one who is not secretary). I have a hunch as to who you are

I am totally drawing a blank as to who was sitting there, sorry. I was pretty much directly across from you, next to the lady from Aurora who was asking what the process would be for us to endorse her. I was the one being kind of pushy about the our statement / messaging guide or whatever we we're calling it.

Internet Explorer has issued a correction as of 03:17 on Jul 9, 2017

skeemon
Aug 4, 2007

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Internet Explorer posted:

I am totally drawing a blank as to who was sitting there. I was pretty much directly across from you, next to the lady from Aurora who was asking what the process would be for us to endorse her. I was the one being kind of pushy about the our statement / media guide or whatever we we're calling it.

Yeah my guess was totally correct. I was initially sitting next to you before we decided to grab additional chairs for the late folks. I also proposed the "stand in solidarity with all marginalized and oppressed peoples" phrasing in the messaging memo. If that doesn't ring a bell either you can PM me so we stop making GBS threads up this beautiful thread with our guess who antics :lol:

Either way,

:hfive: , comrade

skeemon
Aug 4, 2007

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Markorjoshua posted:

(Email text)

Julie Allison is on the level and can grant you access to the DSA new members Facebook group.

skeemon has issued a correction as of 03:34 on Jul 9, 2017

apropos to nothing
Sep 5, 2003
Recent article written by Socialist Alternative's Spokesperson Philip Locker on the growth of the DSA from our perspective. I think a lot of the questions posed are actually evident in this thread, specifically as regards the debate over dues, role of the national organization, etc. Obviously DSAs growth has really helped open up a space for socialist politics in the US which will hopefully only continue in the near term.

https://www.socialistalternative.org/2017/07/05/dsa-grows-21000-socialist-party/

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

apropos to nothing posted:

Recent article written by Socialist Alternative's Spokesperson Philip Locker on the growth of the DSA from our perspective. I think a lot of the questions posed are actually evident in this thread, specifically as regards the debate over dues, role of the national organization, etc. Obviously DSAs growth has really helped open up a space for socialist politics in the US which will hopefully only continue in the near term.

https://www.socialistalternative.org/2017/07/05/dsa-grows-21000-socialist-party/

no reformer no reformer ur the reformer

ChickenOfTomorrow
Nov 11, 2012

god damn it, you've got to be kind


If you're going to convention PM me, there's a few other libsoc/bookchin people going.

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

Internet Explorer posted:

Hi! I was also there. There's a handful of us around and a few from Boulder and the rest of CO. The OP has a list, although I'm not sure if it was updated.

if you arent on the list and youre in the dsa quote this post with what state your from and ill add you to the op

skeemon
Aug 4, 2007

$ $ $T R A P L O R D $ $ $

Ace of Baes posted:

if you arent on the list and youre in the dsa quote this post with what state your from and ill add you to the op

Colorado

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

OhFunny posted:

https://twitter.com/GideonResnick/status/883767262091636736

DSA members among counter-protesters of the KKK rally held in Charlottesville today.

im the unfortunate branch covering up the word before KKK

like one dude wandered into the wrong protest and is really into the kkk

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Does anyone else live in CA-4. I have never heard of this Regina Bateson chick who's running against McClintock.

Ace of Baes posted:

if you arent on the list and youre in the dsa quote this post with what state your from and ill add you to the op

California

Minty
May 3, 2005

by Nyc_Tattoo

Ace of Baes posted:

if you arent on the list and youre in the dsa quote this post with what state your from and ill add you to the op

New mexico

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
added

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
were 2 away from 69 DSA goons

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
also we have DSA goons in 25 states

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Ace of Baes posted:

if you arent on the list and youre in the dsa quote this post with what state your from and ill add you to the op

put me down for california

Raskolnikov38 has issued a correction as of 04:33 on Jul 10, 2017

Defenestration
Aug 10, 2006

"It wasn't my fault that my first unconscious thought turned out to be-"
"Jesus, kid, what?"
"That something smelled delicious!"


Grimey Drawer
Boston

I've been to a meeting now not just a meetup so that counts

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC

apropos to nothing posted:

Recent article written by Socialist Alternative's Spokesperson Philip Locker on the growth of the DSA from our perspective. I think a lot of the questions posed are actually evident in this thread, specifically as regards the debate over dues, role of the national organization, etc. Obviously DSAs growth has really helped open up a space for socialist politics in the US which will hopefully only continue in the near term.

https://www.socialistalternative.org/2017/07/05/dsa-grows-21000-socialist-party/

On the topic of inter-left unity. The NH DSA, NH SA, and NH Socialist Coalition held a joint tabling event Saturday for those interested in Socialism.

Unfortunately it rained as soon as everything got set up so there was no one out walking by. :(

But hey it's good to have cooperation among the NH leftist groups.

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


Ace of Baes posted:

if you arent on the list and youre in the dsa quote this post with what state your from and ill add you to the op

I am also "CA."

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apropos to nothing
Sep 5, 2003

OhFunny posted:

On the topic of inter-left unity. The NH DSA, NH SA, and NH Socialist Coalition held a joint tabling event Saturday for those interested in Socialism.

Unfortunately it rained as soon as everything got set up so there was no one out walking by. :(

But hey it's good to have cooperation among the NH leftist groups.

Awesome. Yeah I don't know of any cities or areas where cooperation between SA and DSA hasn't been occurring. Where I'm at we all get along and regularly send each other info about actions, campaigns, etc. The most sectarian arguments we get into are over whether pineapple on pizza is counter-revolutionary (it's not, the working class is entitled to all it creates, including pineapples).

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