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loquacius posted:regardless of whether there is it was not suggested in that post please stop whitesplaining
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zegermans posted:No you don't understand I don't troll transparently for no reason anymore. poo poo like that kinda needs to be called out though because there's a serious underlying sentiment that black people in all stripes just weren't "smart enough" to support Bernie in almost the same fashion as rust belt white people weren't "smart enough" to support Clinton http://i.imgur.com/O9nHdjY.gifv
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zegermans posted:poo poo like that kinda needs to be called out though because there's a serious underlying sentiment that black people in all stripes just weren't "smart enough" to support Bernie in almost the same fashion as rust belt white people weren't "smart enough" to support Clinton i remember reading stuff like "black voters are more low information" or suggesting they did worse among black voters because they had lower levels of internet access. fundamentally, any analysis that blames the voter (regardless of candidate) for coming to the wrong conclusion is wrong-headed. it's the campaign's job to move the voter, and it's the campaign's fault when that fails.
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Concerned Citizen posted:i remember reading stuff like "black voters are more low information" or suggesting they did worse among black voters because they had lower levels of internet access. fundamentally, any analysis that blames the voter (regardless of candidate) for coming to the wrong conclusion is wrong-headed. it's the campaign's job to move the voter, and it's the campaign's fault when that fails. im glad u've finally admitted that the question of "why did some working-class people vote for trump instead of hillary" is correctly answered with "because hillary was a bad candidate" instead of "because turmp voters dumb"
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Jul 10, 2017 21:26
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zegermans posted:I dunno whiteplaining to John Lewis how he's wrong is kinda racist? well i mean he did kind of end up being wrong
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deadgoon posted:im glad u've finally admitted that the question of "why did some working-class people vote for trump instead of hillary" is correctly answered with "because hillary was a bad candidate" instead of "because turmp voters dumb" Hmm can only be one of those.
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Bip Roberts posted:Hmm can only be one of those. its extremely racist to suggest that some black people may have made a mistake when they chose the racist neolib over the notracist leftlib deadgoon has issued a correction as of 21:31 on Jul 10, 2017 |
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Jul 10, 2017 21:29
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Concerned Citizen posted:sounds like half a loaf to me it is. 
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does disagreeing with someone always imply you think they're dumb?
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Karl Barks posted:does disagreeing with someone always imply you think they're dumb? i mean in the case of zegermans, yes, but what about others
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I still fail to see how "was able to marshal almost every interest group anywhere to the left of center" is supposed to be a negative
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UHD posted:that gif is loving hilarious it has the option to not be in a place that its getting shat on yet still it persisted
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Shear Modulus posted:the rightward lurch of the democrats on everything from workers' rights to racial justice to health care to environmental issues to women's health was absolutely enabled by unions and other left interest groups still giving them their stamp of approval even as the democrats kept shafting them afterwards. and whenever endorsing groups thought about pulling out of this lovely deal the democrats were only too quick to bring them back in line by blackmailing them or their leaders with threats of lack of access, or replacing them with new blood It's because lefties stopped winning election. Clearly they were sabotaged et cetera but centrists will never change over just because they are made to lose. Leftist need to win and be a winning brand before anyone is going to come along.
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deadgoon posted:im glad u've finally admitted that the question of "why did some working-class people vote for trump instead of hillary" is correctly answered with "because hillary was a bad candidate" instead of "because turmp voters dumb" i have said hillary was a bad candidate since early last year. i also think bernie is not a particularly good candidate either
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Jul 10, 2017 21:49
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"Bernie would have won" is great but "Bernie won" is undeniable so maybe primary everyone and then take the best deal on the table.
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And now Zegermans with one his favorite tunes: 🎶Bernie Bros are the real racists🎶
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Frijolero posted:And now Zegermans with one his favorite tunes: 🎶Bernie Bros are the real racists🎶 It was a good as heck trolling angle.
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Jul 10, 2017 21:58
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jBrereton posted:OK but if you want everyone to live as good as whitey (which by people arguing for higher min. wage/guaranteed work they also believe is not opulent enough in many cases) surely you can see how this is a problem Only within these United States. National Borders + a permissive but not unlimited immigration policy are as good as you are going to get for a long time. Additionally strong controls on out-sourcing to prevent Multinational Corporations from exploiting the countries outside of ours.
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Jul 10, 2017 21:59
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Jul 10, 2017 22:03
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zegermans posted:I dunno whiteplaining to John Lewis how he's wrong is kinda racist? Nah he's 100% wrong and has been since mlk died.
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:Nah he's 100% wrong and has been since mlk died. powercrazy
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zegermans posted:As long as it's a strong enough trickle to dilute out white people Woke zergams thinks white people are bad and should die but doesn't start with himself 
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Jul 10, 2017 22:06
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docbeard posted:Actually national borders are bullshit Agreed, but until we have a progressive international government that is committed to bringing MNCs to heel, instead of trying to jump on the gravy train, we have to go one nation at a time.
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Frijolero posted:Woke zergams thinks white people are bad and should die but doesn't start with himself I watched a classmate die Saturday so I mean that's one less white person
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zegermans posted:I watched a classmate die Saturday so I mean that's one less white person That's the way she wanted to go
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Concerned Citizen posted:powercrazy He has done plenty to be critical about, refusing to call out his terrible policies because he happens to share the same skin-color as those policies victims is racist.
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Taintrunner posted:obama, hillary, and macron all agree: black people stop your drat whining and pull up your pants!!!! get a job!!! Reminder that the black woman in the welfare reform photo op died due to not being able to afford the price of her prescription.
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SKULL.GIF posted:CC / VS you two have experience doing this, what do you think of their advice? What did this tweet say?
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Concerned Citizen posted:i have said hillary was a bad candidate since early last year. i also think bernie is not a particularly good candidate either Good canidates are an illusion
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ThndrShk2k posted:What did this tweet say? https://twitter.com/DemSocialists/status/884496250761953281 except the old one had clipart of door knocking and the new one has a gif
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Heaps of Sheeps posted:All Dems are bad Dems 
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