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| The Big3 Tourney |
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67 | 22.41% |
| Will Lakers draft Ball |
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40 | 13.38% |
| Where will the Pauls go |
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54 | 18.06% |
| Will LeBron jump ship to the Spurs or ?? |
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41 | 13.71% |
| Will every team in the league just pivot towards tanking |
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97 | 32.44% |
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It's actually Joakim Noah with the worst contract.
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Jul 10, 2017 22:24
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If Parsons is healthy hahahaha then his contract is merely bad rather than outright hideous.
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Jul 10, 2017 22:24
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Evan Turner isn't even the top 10 worst contracts in the NBA There's so many bad contracts and a quarter of them are on the knicks
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Jul 10, 2017 22:24
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Tae posted:Evan Turner isn't even the top 10 worst contracts in the NBA 
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Jul 10, 2017 22:28
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Parsons is still owed $72 million over the next three years. Noah is "only" owed $55 million.
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Jul 10, 2017 22:29
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Mozgov's contract is really bad
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Jul 10, 2017 22:29
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https://twitter.com/MikeSGallagher/status/884518601989906432
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Jul 10, 2017 22:29
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rjmccall posted:As a 49ers fan I'm certainly not going to begrudge someone their right to instantly bitch about a team getting worse. I'm just saying that the net result of wishing on a cursed monkey's paw is supposed to be, you know, negative in some way, not getting pretty much exactly what you wanted. Having a great team dominate the league for years and then eventually fade away into mediocrity as players retire is not an ironic reversal. I was going to edit monkey's paw to Faustian bargain, but my router poo poo the bed (thanks Rod Serling) so it never got changed, so sorry, sorry
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Jul 10, 2017 22:30
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Payne does NOT deserve this constant harassing and bullying from bulls fans
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Jul 10, 2017 22:31
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straight up brolic posted:Mozgov's contract is really bad Yes but he is still marginally playable and is owed only $48 million over three years, which makes him a bargain compared to Parsons.
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Jul 10, 2017 22:31
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Worse contracts than Evan Turner: Mosgov Noah Ian Mahinmi Luol Deng Bismark Biyombo Miles Plumlee has THREE more years of 12.5 million annual
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Jul 10, 2017 22:33
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dokmo posted:Parsons is still owed $72 million over the next three years. Noah is "only" owed $55 million. Would you rather pay $72m for a below average starter/excellent rotation player (again, assuming Parson gets back to maybe 90% of what he was), or $55m for a bad rotation player who would be a garbage time only guy on a playoff team. That's a genuine question by the way. And I know your answer is going to be "one can't assume Parsons is going to be healthy again, that has to factor into evaluating the contract", but humour me. 
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Jul 10, 2017 22:33
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Away all Goats posted:It's actually Joakim Noah with the worst contract. Noah put up 1 more win share than Turner in 600 fewer minutes. People really, really, really underestimate how bad Evan Turner is. I think because he just looks like he should be better at basketball than he is, but gently caress he's remarkably bad at everything. The only thing he can do remotely well is shoot free throws and he barely gets to the line at all.
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Jul 10, 2017 22:34
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Actually that's super effective in breaking the press
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Jul 10, 2017 22:34
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Cam Payne should retire and go ball for ISIS with Marshall Henderson
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Jul 10, 2017 22:36
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tanglewood1420 posted:Would you rather pay $72m for a below average starter/excellent rotation player (again, assuming Parson gets back to maybe 90% of what he was), or $55m for a bad rotation player who would be a garbage time only guy on a playoff team. The former obviously, but there is no way Parsons has even a 25% chance to become an average rotation player again. If the chance was 90% I would take Parsons.
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Jul 10, 2017 22:36
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Metapod posted:Payne does NOT deserve this constant harassing and bullying from bulls fans Niwrad posted:Cameron Payne is legitimately the worst player I've ever seen make it to the NBA.
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Jul 10, 2017 22:39
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dokmo posted:The former obviously, but there is no way Parsons has even a 25% chance to become an average rotation player again. If the chance was 90% I would take Parsons. Are his injuries chronic in some particular way? I have to confess I haven't really been keeping up to date. It seems to me that over the last couple of years players are coming back from knee tears better and better - not always at peak athleticism but still pretty close (Wes Matthews comes to mind).
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Jul 10, 2017 22:39
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leftist heap posted:Noah put up 1 more win share than Turner in 600 fewer minutes. Yeah but at least he can shoot free throws https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VlJBcG4-7M
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Jul 10, 2017 22:40
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Tae posted:Bismark Biyombo Holy fuckin poo poo. New title. Love you tae tae
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Jul 10, 2017 22:42
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tanglewood1420 posted:Would you rather pay $72m for a below average starter/excellent rotation player (again, assuming Parson gets back to maybe 90% of what he was), or $55m for a bad rotation player who would be a garbage time only guy on a playoff team. We kind of had a similar argument between Carroll and Parsons. Would you rather pay a lot of money for a thoroughly mediocre player that the coach plays way more than he should, or would you rather pay even more money to a busted player that will never see the court but will not take playing time away from anyone.
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Jul 10, 2017 22:44
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its really funny in retrospect how livid rockets fans were to lose parsons and sign ariza instead. Ariza has made less than half the money and played in nearly twice as many games since, and thats before you get into the rest of parson's deal. I guess its not entirely possible to project health and all, but pretty major bullet dodged.
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Jul 10, 2017 22:44
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The Bulls last 2 lottery picks went 2-25 in today's game. Also I didn't understand why a guy who had just had microfracture surgery got such a big deal.
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Jul 10, 2017 22:46
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dokmo posted:The former obviously, but there is no way Parsons has even a 25% chance to become an average rotation player again. If the chance was 90% I would take Parsons. What's wrong with him? Are his knees that shot that he can't ever at least be serviceable again?
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Jul 10, 2017 22:47
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Niwrad posted:The Bulls last 2 lottery picks went 2-25 in today's game. Denzel Valentine is so bad Also the Bulls gave up 2 lottery picks for Dpug McD who was traded for Cam Payne so he might as well count as a Bulls lottery pick as well.
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Jul 10, 2017 22:49
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Doltos posted:What's wrong with him? Are his knees that shot that he can't ever at least be serviceable again? He ended three consecutive seasons with knee injuries. The most recent, a partial tear on his L meniscus, he should theoretically recover from. But he also had two surgeries on his R knee, including "hybrid microfracture", I'm not doctor but I think that is medical code for "death sentence". In any case, he was never the most motivated player, he just got paid the max, and he'll be 31 years old by his next contract year. I'd say that adds up to not looking good.
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Jul 10, 2017 22:53
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The Cerberus of CJ McCollum, TJ McConnell, and KJ McDaniels trips me up more than the CJs
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Jul 10, 2017 22:55
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Dexo posted:Denzel Valentine is so bad Bulls gave up 5 picks to get McDermott. They also traded a 2nd rounder in that deal to get Payne. So they actually turned 4 picks (2 mid-first, 4 second round) into Cameron Payne. Denzel Valentine is like Doug McDermott but somehow less athletic.
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Jul 10, 2017 22:55
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Away all Goats posted:Yeah but at least he can shoot free throws by a few advanced stats he was the best or second best player on the Knicks last season :[ I thought he was the perfect tanking acquisition when they picked him up and I still support the move.
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Jul 10, 2017 23:00
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MourningView posted:What in the world has Reggie Miller ever said or done that would make you think he'd be good at running anything, much less a basketball team Well I think he'd be better at it than Simon. He loves the franchise enough to spend some drat money to get good players. Also, I never said that he'd be the only owner. I'd rather it be a coalition of people with Reggie being the face and the rest of them being savvy businesspeople. I'm lukewarm to Reggie Miller as a person and a broadcaster. I just know that the average Hoosier would be behind that 1000%.
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Jul 10, 2017 23:02
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In the context of their respective teams Joakim Noah is a much, much better contract than Evan Turner.
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Jul 10, 2017 23:03
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Parsons is the reason why ZBO and Vince are no longer on the Grizz
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Jul 10, 2017 23:06
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The Parsons contract single handedly destroyed any hope the grizzlies had of contending for like the next 5-6 years.
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Jul 10, 2017 23:12
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It's weird because you think Hollinger should have known better after writing this a long time ago:
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Jul 10, 2017 23:13
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The GM for the Grizzlies is Chris Wallace, who's a piece of poo poo person.
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Jul 10, 2017 23:16
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zoux posted:
I see big things in Depressed Dane Cook's future
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Jul 10, 2017 23:16
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dokmo posted:It's weird because you think Hollinger should have known better after writing this a long time ago: Maybe he's trying to tank? Or trying to get fired? Or maybe now that's he's Vice GM part of his job description is ignoring the numbers-backed guidance of data nerds and he wouldn't be doing the work he's paid for if he didn't disregard his own advice? Coulda just been the head guy ignoring him, eh I don't know
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Jul 10, 2017 23:16
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No, mac buc and taj isxnot enough for cameron payne, we need a draft pick too
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Jul 10, 2017 23:24
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I understand all the talk about Cam Payne, but we need to shine a light on Doug McDermott as well...he's bad..
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Jul 10, 2017 23:25
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Bush Did Outer Heaven posted:I understand all the talk about Cam Payne, but we need to shine a light on Doug McDermott as well...he's bad.. He at least has one NBA level skill. I have no idea how Payne made it to the NBA. He's a less athletic Marquis Teague.
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Jul 10, 2017 23:27
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