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Jul 10, 2017 06:28
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Jul 10, 2017 13:08
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It sounded like yesterday Cody was talking to Alex about targeting the girls in the Cool Kids alliance. Alex later said she saw it as him trying to make the battle back easier.
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Jul 10, 2017 14:00
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I look forward to the eventual (not necessarily this season) ultimate show of trust play where someone not just agrees to be a pawn, but rather agrees to be evicted just to act as a gatekeeper for Battle Back (on the assumption that they would win.)
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ToastyPotato posted:I look forward to the eventual (not necessarily this season) ultimate show of trust play where someone not just agrees to be a pawn, but rather agrees to be evicted just to act as a gatekeeper for Battle Back (on the assumption that they would win.) You forget Lawon - the guy a few seasons ago who volunteered to be evicted because he thought that the evictee that week would come back with super powers. He did not.
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I always think of Marcellas from S3...so many times I say "what a Marcellas move!" when someone offers to do something idiotic with the veto/eviction/block...Big Brother S3 posted:Marcellas Reynolds is infamously known for winning the Golden Power of Veto (which had first come into play during the Final five), and refusing to use it on himself since his friend Amy Crews was also a nominee. Ultimately, HoH Jason Guy evicted him in a tiebreaker. Marcellas's move would come to be recognized as one of the worst moves in Big Brother History. MisterZimbu posted:You forget Lawon - the guy a few seasons ago who volunteered to be evicted because he thought that the evictee that week would come back with super powers. That guy too! ^^ When he did that I was like oh no it's Marcellas 2.0!
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ToastyPotato posted:I look forward to the eventual (not necessarily this season) ultimate show of trust play where someone not just agrees to be a pawn, but rather agrees to be evicted just to act as a gatekeeper for Battle Back (on the assumption that they would win.) I don't know if you watch Survivor but a few seasons ago this exact thing happened.
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That was with the actual known quantity of redemption island, and was a really good idea in that one instance.
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I remembered Lawon, but that was different since there was no real precedent for his stupidity. He just had an insane out of no where assumption.SalTheBard posted:I don't know if you watch Survivor but a few seasons ago this exact thing happened. I haven't watched Survivor for about 3 years or so. Maybe more. But I guess it makes sense with Redemption Island being a thing. Did it actually work?
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Jul 10, 2017 18:42
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Ozzy realized that the person that was on a Redemption Island tear would have put their tribe in the minority if they made it back to the game, so they intentionally tanked the challenge and sent Ozzy (the god of challenges) to RI in order to beat her and put them in the majority. This was predicated on Cochran not then flipping but that's a different story. In a vacuum, it was a good idea and worked initially.
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Jul 10, 2017 18:53
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BB feeds kind of ruined Survivor for me. I see how much the narrative is edited for BB network shows and assume the same amount goes on for Survivor.
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Just checking in to say that today, in casual conversation with my wife, I called a PB&J a Choke-and-Slide. Thanks Kevin you're a true bro. 
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The planned Redemption Island thing was an interesting idea and it ended up going as planned, but calling it a good idea is a bridge too far, I think. If there's, say, a trivia challenge and Ozzy had lost it wouldn't be remembered fondly at all.
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Jul 10, 2017 19:01
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I mean, yeah, there was some luck involved but RI challenges did tend to be things that Ozzy was good at, so there was a good chance the final challenge wasn't going to suddenly be a trivia challenge, especially since one of the contestants had been stuck there for a while with little knowledge of what was happening at camp by then. It was at least a good instance of someone looking at the setup and realizing there was a way to game it in their tribe's favor. It ultimately didn't work because of something else after.
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Jul 10, 2017 19:04
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Cams back. Josh and Jess talking poo poo to each other. Jess telling Josh how he is a pawn on both sides and he doesn't even realize it. Josh saying he doesn't care when he goes home as long as it is after her and he will be happy with that.
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Jul 10, 2017 19:34
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MisterZimbu posted:You forget Lawon - the guy a few seasons ago who volunteered to be evicted because he thought that the evictee that week would come back with super powers. Wait, what? How do you make that logical leap?
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Sexual Aluminum posted:Wait, what? How do you make that logical leap? I could be wrong, but I believe that was the first year they had the battle back option. So the houseguests had some inkling of what was going on, but he assumed it was simply the last guy voted out would come back. Instead it ended up being an endurance comp he didn't win.
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As said, Josh and Jess had a blow up when the feeds came back on after POV. We came in at the tail end and it was basically just Jess calling Josh a fool and better than him. Its unclear what happened. There's a lot of unreliable narrators but it sounds like Jess went at Christmas and Josh came to her defense and went on a bit of a rant, so then Cody started ranting back. The content of Josh seemed to be the usual "you lied and backstabbed and I'm a good person" and the content of Cody's seemed to be the usual "You're a baby and you peed your pants." One assessment is that Josh went at Cody during the POV plea speech. Another assessment is that Jess went after Christmas, Josh came to her defense, and Cody yelled at people. This is probably one of those situations where we have to wait until Wednesday since there's a lot of unreliable narrators in this house. Everyone (Mark, Kevin, Christmas) encouraged Josh that he "said what he needed to say" and he looks like the better man but he needs to let it go and not let Jody get under his skin or they'll drag him down. Again, who knows if that's a fair accounting or a little coddling of Josh? Wednesday. Paul wants Kevin to throw a hinky vote on Thursday. My guess is he absolutely wants to use it to frame Jason to make sure he moves ahead of Jessica on the targets list. Kevin later told someone that he thinks someone will probably throw a hinky vote so Kevin might be considering it. If he does that I don't see how he doesn't shine a light on himself after the Ramses/Jillian thing. Jess is doing the whole "its so funny" thing and says she's going to ask him if his diaper's been changed every day. Cody says he's going to tell Julie and everyone that Josh is a sexual predator. Christmas' surgery got pushed back to Wednesday. There's all kinds of fan tizzy that somehow that signifies that she's getting pulled from the house. I'd advise you to ignore it since it seems nonsensical to me and just driven by the people hoping to save Cody/get rid of Christmas. Jessica notices that someone left the coffee pot on but she and Cody both agree that its not their problem if the house burns down and walk away. So basically just another day of Cody and Jess making friends and influencing people.
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So did Josh pee his pants? Forgot about this thread until just now... glad I remembered! I haven't been following feeds but Cody, in the show edit at least, is seriously the most unlikable douche in a long time of BB's. He's the guy that puffs his chest and acts all alpha, but the second you stand up to him he just stammers, mumbles and yells.
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He's actually worse on the feeds. Like, the show skips the part where he rants about "trannies" or calls everyone "pussies" constantly or dresses as a terrorist for laughs. And then, yes, never has the nerve to say anything to anyone except Josh. And even then the height of his and Jessica's burns are "change your diaper." I'll be watching the HR Derby tonight so hopefully they don't work up the nerve to start something.
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Do you really think Cody is worse than, say, Arryn and Paulie?
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I kind of get it. Paulie got a really nice tv edit for a long time and they only started airing his poo poo the week his game blew up. And everyone knew Aaryn was a racist out the gate but she wasn't as direct as Cody and a lot of people probably on some level give her a pass for how she was raised or something. She also had a circle of friends who went down with her and she actually survived long enough that a lot of fans thought she had "rehabilitated" herself. Cody's just been presented as a malcontent and weirdo since Day 1, right out the gate broke the house up into hot people and not, nominated someone by saying "I don't like you", betrayed everyone and then looked pathetic defending it to Christmas, and then had to be literally held back from going after Josh. There have been worse people than Cody and people who have racked up more sins, but I don't think any BB villain has ever burned so hard, so fast and burned out just as hard and fast. And all at his own hands. The guy I keep thinking of to compare him to his John Carroll in Survivor. http://funny115.com/v1/23.htm
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Propaganda Machine posted:Do you really think Cody is worse than, say, Arryn and Paulie? Well before STACG's post I was just talking about Cody in terms of "general douche bag" Cody. Didn't know he did all the racist poo poo (but should have known). Arryn and Paulie.. man.... gah. I mean those people. I hope they got some help.
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I find Paulie worse than Cody. Cody is a weirdo more than anything and I think Jess eggs on a lot of the crap he does. He also seems like he's mentally hosed up from serving. Paulie seems totally aware but thinks it's cool or funny to be a humongous piece of poo poo human being and that's always worse to me.
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In Cody's slight defense I don't think he's "done racist poo poo". Well, the terrorist shroud could have been. And there's "trannies" and "dykes". But I haven't heard any explicit racism. Although Paul keeps alluding to some Trump/"political agenda" thing he thinks Cody will get in trouble for but it must have happened before feeds came on. I don't really take the "he's messed up from the military" or "Jess eggs him on" excuses. Cody's a loving prick and he's a deliberate loving prick and he takes joy in being a loving prick. He's a bully which is why he goes after Josh and just calls the rest pussies and cowards behind their backs. And every time someone tells him he's coming off bad he makes it plainly clear he doesn't care and people are just "left wing pussies." And hell, Jess seems more aware and concerned than him. She loses that in her anger and ego most of the time but you see flashes where she's clearly very concerned about how she's coming off in all this. Case in point, Cody thinks its the funniest thing in the world that they ran Megan out of the game and whenever he brings it up Jess says she's not proud of that.
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STAC Goat posted:In Cody's slight defense I don't think he's "done racist poo poo". Well, the terrorist shroud could have been. And there's "trannies" and "dykes". But I haven't heard any explicit racism. Sorry when I usually say "racist poo poo," I also mean "bigoted poo poo." Kinda lump them together.
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Yeah, I just didn't want to be giving the impression tat Cody had said poo poo he didn't. I don't actually think there's a moral difference between being bigoted to LGBT or races, though. I just didn't want to make it seem like there was something there wasn't.
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STAC Goat posted:Yeah, I just didn't want to be giving the impression tat Cody had said poo poo he didn't. Yeah I gotcha. So has Kevin done any stupid poo poo? I like him and want to hope he's not stupid. "That's a nice sweatah."
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BonoMan posted:Yeah I gotcha. He's from Boston. So.
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STAC Goat posted:He's a bully which is why he goes after Josh and just calls the rest pussies and cowards behind their backs. Then later he goes to Josh and asks the exact same question, "Did you flip your vote?" And Josh says, "Why are you confronting me?" and Cody says, "That's what I thought," and walks off. That was it. But Josh then starts yammering how "nobody grills me" and "did you just grill me" and "stop grilling me" and "I'm not a bitch, don't grill me!" over and over like an irritating moron before Cody finally turns and storms back toward him. Then, after all that went down, Josh comes into the Have-Not room and Cody makes it very clear, get whatever you need to get, do what you need to do, but don't try to talk to us right now. Josh tries to talk to him like 10 times in a row instead of letting them be. In conclusion I'm fully aware Cody is an rear end in a top hat but maybe Josh gets it the worst because he's an obnoxious buffoon who pushes Cody's buttons.
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Fast Luck posted:See, but on the show after Jillian went out, we saw Cody approach Mark and say did you flip your vote, and Mark says we didn't have the numbers, and Cody kind of nods and moves on. Okay I'm gonna can it with the Survivor talk, but at one point they'd run a season full of dummies offensive enough that they set a cut-off on the IQ test they administer to potential contestants. Big Brother has not taken this page from the CBS reality rulebook. That said, I'm surprised by how much I don't hate/might actually like Josh given how...aggressively dumb he is 
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I'm really growing to like Josh because even though he's kind of an idiot he's obviously a big kid who just needs some positive emotional support and when Christmas and Dom started giving that to him he immediately started internalizing it and getting better. And now that the house is all giving him positive support he's doing even better and just laughing off Cody and Jess' poo poo today. In a social game I can really get behind the guy who is genuinely improving and changing socially. Especially when contrasted with people like Cody and Jess doing the exact opposite. Plus, despite the weird Megan poo poo at the start he actually seems to have a solid game sense and I'd argue he's playing one of the better game strategies right now. Fast Luck posted:See, but on the show after Jillian went out, we saw Cody approach Mark and say did you flip your vote, and Mark says we didn't have the numbers, and Cody kind of nods and moves on. I see how you reached that conclusion, and I'm not really disputing it in that situation. But I don't agree with it because of the bigger picture. Its not just once instance of Cody treating Mark and Josh the same and Josh just riling him up by extending it (although Josh certainly does rile him up). Cody doesn't trash Mark. He doesn't even question the fact that Dom kept Christmas and walked away from him. He calls Matt a "piece of poo poo" and "pussy" but never once says a thing to his face. But he happily insults Josh at any opportunity. And way more people than Josh came into that Have Not room that night and Josh is the only person Cody treated that way. And honestly, Cody and Jess are pretty clear about it when alone. They think Josh is weak and they can break him. Cody is proud that they broke Megan. He tells Jess that she made one of the best moves of the game in chasing her out of the house. And Cody keeps yelling this "victim noises" poo poo at Josh. Jess spent days laughing about the idea that Raven and Elena would cry when Christmas was evicted. He and Jess are bullies. I feel comfortable saying that. But you are free to disagree. Propaganda Machine posted:He's from Boston. Pretty much. He's said some stuff. I vaguely recall something about "black kids being on drugs" and him saying that if Christmas was evicted her photo would be "Christmas in the ghetto." He's getting a pass because of his age and the fact that he never seems to mean it as an attack. Context matters a lot with these things. Jason's said a number of things, but every time he does he immediately reacts with shame and apologizes. I have a problem with the fact that those slurs are in his vocabulary and what that says about him, but the fact that he's at least aware they're wrong and apologizes for them helps defuse them. The reason Cody's "trannies" thing got some steam is because when Jess reacted to it he went on a long rant about how he didn't give a poo poo if "trannies" didn't like him and they can mutilate themselves and advance their mental problems and blah blah blah. And then he brought it back up a couple of times to laugh about it. That's when you get in trouble, the same as Aaryn's crew. STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 01:59 on Jul 11, 2017 |
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Given that Jason is a rodeo clown and thus spends his entire daily life steeped in cowboy culture, I can give him a pass if lovely terms and thoughts pass through his vernacular if he does as you say and immediately recognizes that it's not cool poo poo in a wider context. I guess I just hope he's genuine when he apologizes.
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Yeah, it goes into the "you can't read people's minds and see their intention" thing. If they say something and then apologize, maybe they're just confirming to social norms. But gently caress, isn't that how progress is made? Racist Tree and all? With Aaryn's racism or Paulie's misogyny or Cody's transphobia the thing that they all have in common is that those people didn't apologize, didn't feel ashamed or at least conform to social norms, and instead doubled down and made their intentions clear.
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Christmas is kind of a annoying. Jess is legit trying to be real with her but christmas is just... Condescending as gently caress. e: but then again maybe Jess had it coming. Christmas is leaving the house until Thursday for her surgery. CancerStick fucked around with this message at 02:39 on Jul 11, 2017 |
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____Aaron Judge______ is a baseball god.  Ok. From what I can figure Christmas' surgery is Wednesday at 3:30 and will be 4+ hours, so she'll stay in the hospital overnight and be back in Thursday, barring complications. Knock on wood. She's got a couple of breaks, dislocations, and a ligament tear so its a big rear end surgery. She announced this to the whole house off the feeds. Apparently Cody walked out of the room while she was doing it. So you can imagine how that went over with the house.  Cody: You guys eating it up? Jess remained the slightly more aware of the duo and took the opportunity to pull Jessica aside and try to clear the air. And by clear the air I mean Jess told Christmas that she's a mean girl and has treated her badly and Jess has never done anything wrong. Christmas gave her account of things that she was just trying to advise Jess to know she was linked to Cody and didn't mean Jess to "misconstrue" that as her telling her to separate from Cody. Christmas says that when she heard from people that Jess was saying she had threatened her (game wise) that's when she took it personally and when Jess never showed concern for her foot. This gets nowhere as you can imagine. Jessica tries to draw a line between being down there for the first time Christmas came back from the hospital and staying in HOH the second time. Christmas is her usual straight forward, combative self and Jessica clearly takes that as an attack. Christmas says they've both had awful weeks in different ways. Christmas says that whatever misinterpretations, miscommunications, or deceits they had she'd like to put them behind them and just be civil to each other. Jess says there were no miscommunications and Christmas was clearly trying to hint that she should dump Cody. Christmas says she didn't mean it that way and Jess can always come to her for clarification if she isn't clear enough. They get hostile again over whether Jess' "interpretation" was delivered as "the truth" or not and if that constitutes a lie. Christmas keeps calling Jess a liar, Jess keeps calling Christmas catty. Christmas promises to try and get past her hard feelings and do better. Jess says she's not trying to be a villain. They part on some real not promising cease fire standards having not really accomplished much. Raven's emotional about Christmas because it reminds her of her own health history. She says she's died twice on the surgery table. And about Cody lacking any human compassion. Matt and Elena saying how they were starting to feel bad about things with Cody and what they've said in DR and he just ended that today. Mark is emotional. Paul thinks he's going to get booed. Matt: Dude, you're just a dickhead. Paul: What a dickhead. I'm glad I'm sending his rear end home. Mark: I feel like an rear end in a top hat for loving sticking my neck out for him. Christmas recounts the Jessica conversation to a HOH crew. Alex points out that she avoids Jess because she's a mean girl and talks poo poo and Elena says Jess says the same stuff about Alex. They all compare notes about Jess' similar behavior and treatment of them. Dom chimes in about how she's tried to offer her advice and she dismissed it and they all say its the same kind of wording their advice was dismissed with. Its a general airing of grievances, with an element of them all wishing Jess would grow, and a noticeable but restrained amount of anger and meanness because they've all been wronged by Jess. They also talked about how Jess' hair is falling out. Jess: When you're on top, its a high. But when you're where we are... Cody: Its a high. I love being underdog status. And since we brought her up earlier this seems like a nice tweet to see like someone might be growing as a person since we last saw her. https://twitter.com/Aaryn_Williams/status/884180127726411779
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Christmas bouncing because of her surgery and Cody hitting the bricks would be the most lovely poetic justice this week can provide. Jessica would be unable to process it but in pure Jess fashion she will deal with it in the most immature method available. This is like Thanksgiving... because it gives and gives. I need punkin' pie!
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