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orange juche posted:I get it that nothing matters is the meme but I'm just pessimistic as gently caress after witnessing the endless clusterfuck that ended with DJT in office. have you not noticed the fact that his 7 months in office has been so tumultuous that he can't even get the republicans' landmark healthcare bill passed, as well as any other action that requires more than a signature to overturn an executive order?
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Buca di Bepis posted:have you not noticed the fact that his 7 months in office has been so tumultuous that he can't even get the republicans' landmark healthcare bill passed, as well as any other action that requires more than a signature to overturn an executive order? Yeah, this is kinda why everybody jokes that nothing matters. Donnie has been stumbling from incompetencey to incompetencey, in full public view, and nothing is visibly happening. Yeah Muller may still turboprosecute the least capable executive team in history but right now they're making us a laughingstock at the G20
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M_Gargantua posted:Yeah, this is kinda why everybody jokes that nothing matters. Donnie has been stumbling from incompetencey to incompetencey, in full public view, and nothing is visibly happening. Yeah Muller may still turboprosecute the least capable executive team in history but right now they're making us a laughingstock at the G20 "nothing is visibly happening" besides the Republicans failing to actually live up to any kind of major governmental goal they had. Are you for real?
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He means that nothing is visibly happening to fix the glitch.M_Gargantua posted:DynCorp and blackwater seem like some serious trash at the management level. Not going to comment about the quality of contractors, there are goons among them and some of them, I assume, are good people. Blackwater founder Erik Prince is SecEd Betsy Devos' brother.
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Jul 11, 2017 05:54
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Since when have politicians failing to meet promises surprised anyone. Bureaucratic inaction and is a cornerstone belief of 40% of the American population who views voting as useless because nothing happens. No one is surprised by the hydra that is the GOP eating its own ability to govern after everything else. They're not following any sort of GOP outline in anyway that they can sell to American conservatives. They're held hostage by the dozen members of the party beholden to the crazed red hat brigade of pepe warriors
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Jul 11, 2017 05:55
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Godholio posted:Blackwater founder Erik Prince is SecEd Betsy Devos' brother. I'm crossing my fingers that they all end up as felons after the fallout
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M_Gargantua posted:Since when have politicians failing to meet promises surprised anyone. Bureaucratic inaction and is a cornerstone belief of 40% of the American population who views voting as useless because nothing happens. No one is surprised by the hydra that is the GOP eating its own ability to govern after everything else. They're not following any sort of GOP outline in anyway that they can sell to American conservatives. They're held hostage by the dozen members of the party beholden to the crazed red hat brigade of pepe warriors yes i'm sure this would also be the case if the entirety of the US fully supported the administration and none of the controversies and negative media coverage were happening
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Jul 11, 2017 05:56
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M_Gargantua posted:Since when have politicians failing to meet promises surprised anyone. It should surprise (and please, in this case) people, since politicians actually do tend to keep most of their promises.
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Godholio posted:He means that nothing is visibly happening to fix the glitch. Whatever happens to Trump i feel is secondary to ensuring that Republicans do not get their way in killing millions of citizens and tossing us into yet another pointless war. I will not consider anything that works towards that goal as "nothing happening".
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Jul 11, 2017 05:59
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Buca di Bepis posted:yes i'm sure this would also be the case if the entirety of the US fully supported the administration and none of the controversies and negative media coverage were happening Except outrage fatigue is a thing. I'm still an angry liberal and I think that this today is a huge story and some light treason may have been committed, but most people don't see that. They watch FOX and all that fox was talking about in the cafeteria today was about how Comey leaked secrets in his memos and is as bad is ~shillery~. The entirety of the US is majority run by republican statehouses, a republican senate, and a republican congress, who seem to have no qualms about letting an arguably republican executive flail about as long as it makes them money. The Iron Rose posted:It should surprise (and please, in this case) people, since politicians actually do tend to keep most of their promises. Perception, not reality, sways elections as proven by agent orange.
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Jul 11, 2017 06:01
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M_Gargantua posted:Except outrage fatigue is a thing. I'm still an angry liberal and I think that this today is a huge story and some light treason may have been committed, but most people don't see that. They watch FOX and all that fox was talking about in the cafeteria today was about how Comey leaked secrets in his memos and is as bad is ~shillery~. The entirety of the US is majority run by republican statehouses, a republican senate, and a republican congress, who seem to have no qualms about letting an arguably republican executive flail about as long as it makes them money. yet they seem to be having bad luck at passing major legislation. I wonder why?
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Jul 11, 2017 06:03
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Buca di Bepis posted:yet they seem to be having bad luck at passing major legislation. I wonder why? Because they're six seperate political ideologies that coexisted and grew strong on the prevailing principle of "OBAMA IS THE DEVIL" They're inability to pass malicious legislation in no way impedes their ability to ruin everything through sheer incompetence. They're practically obstructing each other right now and still blaming the democrats. Worst part is its working because they're base is radicalized to believe that anything liberal is bad and were right back to emailghazi
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Jul 11, 2017 06:07
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M_Gargantua posted:Because they're six seperate political ideologies that coexisted and grew strong on the prevailing principle of "OBAMA IS THE DEVIL" so nothing matters and they were doomed to defeat themselves, might as well not spend any effort since that could only be counterproductive
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Jul 11, 2017 06:09
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Buca di Bepis posted:yet they seem to be having bad luck at passing major legislation. I wonder why? That dysfunction seems to be a lot more about tea party whackos screaming bloody murder about the proposed legislation not being enough murder to satiate the God of Conservatism. If Turtle McFuckerson could have ramrodded his poo poo through without Cruz and pals making GBS threads all over everyone and slowing things up at precisely the wrong moment it would have been a done deal.
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Jul 11, 2017 06:12
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All effort must be spent now and going forward because political apathy is letting regressive policies get an inch. Give and inch lose a mile and we may end up back in the 1920s where the police is protecting the KKK (oh wait, already there) and neonazis are a publicized political force in the world (drat too late) "Nothing matters" because the legal apparatus that remains tenable is operating at the speed of old politics. We're now in the age of raging idiocy where every day things are happening and our politicians could stop it if they weren't all party hacks
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bird food bathtub posted:That dysfunction seems to be a lot more about tea party whackos screaming bloody murder about the proposed legislation not being enough murder to satiate the God of Conservatism. If Turtle McFuckerson could have ramrodded his poo poo through without Cruz and pals making GBS threads all over everyone and slowing things up at precisely the wrong moment it would have been a done deal. I don't think you can actually discount that so much of the constituencies of these people depend so totally on healthcare handouts that the legislation is completely untenable. Alaska and West Virginia are extreme cases, but people in other states are giving enough poo poo to their Congressmen about losing benefits that it actually seems to be making a difference. Never mind that these same people voted their congressmen in on the platform of destroying healthcare, now they're realizing that it would actually affect them, too.
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Buca di Bepis posted:I don't think you can actually discount that so much of the constituencies of these people depend so totally on healthcare handouts that the legislation is completely untenable. Alaska and West Virginia are extreme cases, but people in other states are giving enough poo poo to their Congressmen about losing benefits that it actually seems to be making a difference. Never mind that these same people voted their congressmen in on the platform of destroying healthcare, now they're realizing that it would actually affect them, too. They don't care that the legislation is untenable because the results of the legislation will never effect them. They will walk away rich, even if some of them lose their seats in 2018 and 2020. We will fight tooth and nail for those seats and hose fuckers will still leave with seven figure accounts and six figure consulting jobs at companies who benefited billions in the few years their plan was active. Your constituency hates you? What do you do? Attempt to appease them by being more liberal, which they'll hate you for? Or go along with the party, take the pay out, and retire?
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M_Gargantua posted:They don't care that the legislation is untenable because the results of the legislation will never effect them. They will walk away rich, even if some of them lose their seats in 2018 and 2020. We will fight tooth and nail for those seats and hose fuckers will still leave with seven figure accounts and six figure consulting jobs at companies who benefited billions in the few years their plan was active. *shrug* just take a look at the actions of the West Virginia senator, at least
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I think we're talking past each other here. McCain was also very concerned i'm sure.
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M_Gargantua posted:I think we're talking past each other here. As long as they're an unstoppable, invincible super juggernaut I might as well vote on the winning side.
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Buca di Bepis posted:As long as they're an unstoppable, invincible super juggernaut I might as well vote on the winning side. They're not winning, they're breaking things with their stupidity. 35% of the population of America vote for them because their team is the winning side even if it kills them.
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M_Gargantua posted:They're not winning, they're breaking things with their stupidity. 35% of the population of America vote for them because their team is the winning side even if it kills them. So keep at it, because "it matters".
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Jul 11, 2017 06:37
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Nothing matters. Life is absurd tragedy. But by god am I going to try to make life better for those who come after me.
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Go over into the mom chat thread and watch 65,000 green day fans belt out Bohemian Rhapsody at the top of their lungs between band sets. It will make you feel a little bit better for the day. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3803600&pagenumber=253#post474246266
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Larry Parrish posted:Its really cool how all indications seem to point to the DoD being largely independent of the administration. I'm not sure if that's terrifying or good Worked out really well for Turkey (🦃)... For a while Edit: Does that poo poo show up on desktops? Phone really really wanted to put a turkey emoji in.. So I let it.
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Laranzu posted:Worked out really well for Turkey (🦃)... For a while Chrome shows it. I'm pretty sure mobile emoji are part of Unicode now, so any modern web browser should show them.
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Buca di Bepis posted:So keep at it, because "it matters". People have been saying nothing matters for the better part of a year and you're suddenly getting your panties in a wad about it? https://twitter.com/mikecollierwx/status/884625189056720896 https://twitter.com/mikecollierwx/status/884633265981857792 boop the snoot fucked around with this message at 11:09 on Jul 11, 2017 |
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Larry Parrish posted:Its really cool how all indications seem to point to the DoD being largely independent of the administration. I'm not sure if that's terrifying or good It's both. It's good that the DoD is largely independent of this administration. It's horrifying that the DoD murder ball is rolling around largely governed only by internal moral compasses held by the same fuckwits that commanded poo poo while we were in. You know. The ones that would send people to the firing squad because your PT shoes had the wrong white to blue ratio, but let's cover up and spirit away rape accusations because if the public thinks there is a problem then the troops moral might take a hit.
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Meet Rob Goldstone. https://twitter.com/JoshSchwerin/status/884595150810484741 https://twitter.com/Bencjacobs/status/884598456286949376 This guy was the entertainment dude that was supertied to Russia and has had his picture taken with Donnie a lot. He talks on Facebook a lot. He supposedly wrote the email to Donnie Junior basically saying "hey, the Russians want to help!" and the motherfucker actually checks in on Facebook (though the wrong Trump tower page) the day of the meeting. The day of the election, he even posts a picture of himself in a fun t-shirt: http://nypost.com/2017/07/11/man-who-arranged-trump-jr-russia-meeting-posted-suspicious-photo/ Meanwhile, the Russian lawyer just talked to NBC News. https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/884736141391536128 Gonna be a stupid day!
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Genocide Tendency posted:It's both. Lol yeah. Exactly. Like, on one hand, there's probably a lot of people in ~~ high command ~~ that think continuing the epic literal forever war against brown people in adobe huts is a terrible idea, but on the other hand, I'm pretty sure a large chunk of the general corps was around when Iraq started and were all for that poo poo and probably still are
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So I just found out I'm going to be spending a long weekend drinking at a cottage with a retired British general who commanded a UN mission in Africa and troops during Desert Storm. Also was a governor of a castle in the UK  I know we make jokes about officers being nobles, but drat.
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My greatest fear is unironically that the insane style of hardcore evangelical that enlisted specifically so they could be a Holy Christian Warrior is now filling a good chunk of the senior officer corps
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Larry Parrish posted:My greatest fear is unironically that the insane style of hardcore evangelical that enlisted specifically so they could be a Holy Christian Warrior is now filling a good chunk of the senior officer corps oh man
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I think we're still a few years off from that: If you assume that the biggest wave of Holy Christian Warriors came after 9/11, that would put them around 12 to 16 years in service. The downside is that those people are all likely O-4 or O-5 by now, which officially makes them the most dangerous part of the military. redneck nazgul fucked around with this message at 13:40 on Jul 11, 2017 |
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Right, most flag officers joined around the Gulf War era or earlier. A lot of the hardcore zealots I know got out during President Obama's tenure to go work for conservative think tanks. I don't know if that is good or not, but my anecdotal evidence is a lot of the officer corp is back to being Center Right. Most of if the "conservatives" I know are of the traditional sense, and voted for Rubio or Kasich in the Primary.
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Most of the hardcore Christian right wingers that I served with got out and seem to hate their lives and spend all day on Facebook posting second amendment memes and how antifa are no different than ISIS and how blue lives matter and how black people are the real racists. The usual Breitbart talking points.
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TBeats posted:People have been saying nothing matters for the better part of a year and you're suddenly getting your panties in a wad about it? No it's always been loving dumb and it's gotten even more dumb with everything that's been happening lately so I chose that moment to talk about it. Sorry I haven't been posting about it enough for your liking.
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