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Rugoberta Munchu posted:We are bad for not engaging people like Sargon as intellectual equals because Given how much of the alt right came out swinging for Milo, people should think twice about letting them anywhere near children.
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Gorn Myson posted:Given how much of the alt right came out swinging for Milo, people should think twice about letting them anywhere near children. Are you saying Sexual Abuse victims don't try to rationalize the sexual abuse they received at the hands of an abuser as a positive thing?
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Jul 11, 2017 12:08
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Rugoberta Munchu posted:We are bad for not engaging people like Sargon as intellectual equals because Hey Lambic, where's your response to these people? If you don't calmly rebut their points, how will you ever defeat Trump?
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Jul 11, 2017 13:21
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Pittsburgh Lambic posted:the message of "I'm an academic and you're not so I don't have to listen to you Unfortunately this. Given the rampant anti-intellectualism sweeping its way though the US and other parts of the west, academic positions hold even less sway in the public mind than they used to in the past. Simply asserting academic privilege and hoping people trust your honesty and scrupulousness isn't good enough anymore (it also shades over into argument from authority really quickly).
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Who What Now posted:Hey Lambic, where's your response to these people? If you don't calmly rebut their points, how will you ever defeat Trump? The issue isn't engaging with trash like Sargon (except as a showpiece), it's better engagement with the public without a sense of smug superiority. Also, I've mentioned this elsewhere, but no one should hope to convert Sargon or his acolytes. All such arguments exist to provide a positive counter-narrative and are for the benefit of onlookers and the undecided public.
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Pembroke Fuse posted:The issue isn't engaging with trash like Sargon (except as a showpiece), it's better engagement with the public without a sense of smug superiority. Also, I've mentioned this elsewhere, but no one should hope to convert Sargon or his acolytes. All such arguments exist to provide a positive counter-narrative and are for the benefit of onlookers and the undecided public. Anyone who needs somebody to explain to them that adults screeching about keks and feminism in a playground are not people you want to be associated with is already too stupid to help. I'm sorry, but it's true. Who What Now fucked around with this message at 14:54 on Jul 11, 2017 |
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Jul 11, 2017 14:51
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Anyone swayed by answers that easy would forget any point you made on their next trip around the goldfish bowl.
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Jul 11, 2017 15:12
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Like, how do you even begin to address the argument of "REEEEEEEE" at all, especially without coming off as smug? "Well, my opponent is very intelligent and obviously put a lot of thought into his screech, but I respectfully disagree on the grounds of"
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Jul 11, 2017 15:17
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Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:Are you saying Sexual Abuse victims don't try to rationalize the sexual abuse they received at the hands of an abuser as a positive thing? That's not even close to what he said. What he said was people who were ostensibly not abuse victims came out in support of a statement that was pro-abuse. ...Is English your fifth language? Because if so, I can see how you'd so massively misread it. Otherwise, you're either a moron or ...nah, I think that's the only option.
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Jul 11, 2017 15:32
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Using ignore list may improve thread.
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Jul 11, 2017 15:45
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It would if other folks would stop quoting those ignored posts in their entirety.
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Jul 11, 2017 15:46
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Rugoberta Munchu posted:We are bad for not engaging people like Sargon as intellectual equals because They're even more pathetic than the American ones. By a lot. Aren't there supposed to be actual skinheads in the U.K.?
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Jul 11, 2017 15:48
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sorry for posting in the designated safespace
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Jul 11, 2017 15:49
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Who What Now posted:Like, how do you even begin to address the argument of "REEEEEEEE" at all, especially without coming off as smug? The most shocking part of that video is that one dude shouting REEEE out loud. Like, what the gently caress?
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Jul 11, 2017 15:53
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business hammocks posted:They're even more pathetic than the American ones. By a lot. Aren't there supposed to be actual skinheads in the U.K.? It's pretty funny whenever they try to organize some kind of 'broad church of the far right' and end up beating the poo poo out of each other.
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BigRed0427 posted:The most shocking part of that video is that one dude shouting REEEE out loud. Like, what the gently caress? I think several of them shouted it.
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Jul 11, 2017 16:01
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BigRed0427 posted:The most shocking part of that video is that one dude shouting REEEE out loud. Like, what the gently caress? 4chan nazis really are just powered by memes and irony at this point. Like they'll do anything if they've seen it on the Internet and think it will piss people off. So it kind of follows they'd be doing stuff like that.
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Jul 11, 2017 16:02
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BigRed0427 posted:The most shocking part of that video is that one dude shouting REEEE out loud. Like, what the gently caress? Remember that one idiot who yelled "Pepe!" during Hillary Clinton's speech about the alt right?
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Jul 11, 2017 16:15
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business hammocks posted:They're even more pathetic than the American ones. By a lot. Aren't there supposed to be actual skinheads in the U.K.?
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Jul 11, 2017 16:22
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Jippa posted:There is a german word for when you are embarrassed for other people. fahrvergnügen?
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Jul 11, 2017 16:22
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https://twitter.com/xaphan6669/status/884614454851194880 Heh. Normies getting all butt hurt because we screamed at children. Top kek!
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Jul 11, 2017 16:23
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Rugoberta Munchu posted:https://twitter.com/xaphan6669/status/884614454851194880 "This is the smugness that got Trump elected!!!11!!"
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Jul 11, 2017 16:24
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Jul 11, 2017 16:25
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Rugoberta Munchu posted:https://twitter.com/xaphan6669/status/884614454851194880 It's this except IRL: 
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Jul 11, 2017 16:26
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Jul 11, 2017 16:27
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Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:sorry for posting in the designated safespace Shockingly, supporting pedophilia apologism gets you told the get the gently caress out of everywhere decent. If you want to try to defend that poo poo, gently caress off back to 8chan or wherever you oozed from. If Milo was abused when he was younger, then he drat well knows better than to suggest it's an acceptable practice. And remember, he also said that young boys in relationships with older women are the actual abusers instead of the victims. Just like being abused as a kid doesn't give you a right to abuse kids when you grow up, it doesn't give you the right to absolve abusers of their disgusting crimes.
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Jul 11, 2017 16:30
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rkajdi posted:Shockingly, supporting pedophilia apologism gets you told the get the gently caress out of everywhere decent. If you want to try to defend that poo poo, gently caress off back to 8chan or wherever you oozed from. I'm not defending what he said i'm just pointing out that there is a reason he is so hosed up in the head
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Rugoberta Munchu posted:This dude is having to make parody accounts step up their game. I know I'm hosed in the head because I looked at the guy's handle and thought it was some sort of h3h3/jontron collab.
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Jippa posted:There is a german word for when you are embarrassed for other people. Fremdschämen, good word, gets a lot of use.
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Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:I'm not defending what he said i'm just pointing out that there is a reason he is so hosed up in the head Shockingly, people don't give a poo poo about the reason someone thinks raping kids is cool, they just care that they have a pedo or pedo apologist standing in front of them acting like they are a person and not a monster in a suit made of human skin. Don't bother justifying him, and don't act like standing against child rape is whatever safe space whinging you pushed around.
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Pittsburgh Lambic posted:cool, i haven't really seen any of their work yet; any videos you'd recommend? I was being lighthearted. Likely so were the others.
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Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:I'm not defending what he said i'm just pointing out that there is a reason he is so hosed up in the head
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rkajdi posted:Shockingly, people don't give a poo poo about the reason someone thinks raping kids is cool, they just care that they have a pedo or pedo apologist standing in front of them acting like they are a person and not a monster in a suit made of human skin. Don't bother justifying him, and don't act like standing against child rape is whatever safe space whinging you pushed around. I'm not justifying what Milo said just that Milo is a deeply-hosed up individual that needs to head to therapy so he doesn't try and justify what a child abuser did to him I dont like the way your insinuating I'm pro paedophile/child-rape btw
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Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:I'm not justifying what Milo said just that Milo is a deeply-hosed up individual that needs to head to therapy so he doesn't try and justify what a child abuser did to him Acknowledged. He and most likely a lot of other alt-righters need therapy. But in the meantime they need to shut the gently caress up.
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Who What Now posted:Hey Lambic, where's your response to these people? If you don't calmly rebut their points, how will you ever defeat Trump? rebuttals aren't needed when people are trespassing and causing a public disurbance; the appropriate response here is to call the police if they were instead waving around their 4chan flag from the top of their house and yelling about normies all day from there, call the police too once it warrants a noise complaint otherwise, just try not to get triggered by them, i guess
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Jul 11, 2017 18:37
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None of your suggestions involved putting them in zoos. You are not cut out for this brave new world.
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Jul 11, 2017 18:38
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so call the police and see if they look at the situation and proceed to call the pound? 
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Pittsburgh Lambic posted:rebuttals aren't needed when people are trespassing and causing a public disurbance; the appropriate response here is to call the police You admonished me for saying these people should be ignored, and now your answer is to ignore them.
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Who What Now posted:Like, how do you even begin to address the argument of "REEEEEEEE" at all, especially without coming off as smug? the difference is that the argument of "REEEEEEEE" won't convince anybody, at least anybody of voting age, so you don't need to worry about addressing it at all
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