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No Butt Stuff
Jun 10, 2004

Could we please get FactsAreUseless in here.

I need some smarm.

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Randbrick
Sep 28, 2002

EwokEntourage posted:

there's a perverse joy in watching another lawyer get hosed over by a lovely client
Every attorney who ever worked criminal defense, especially indigent criminal defense, has a level of experience with these stupid, stupid people. Those who haven't, don't.

Watching rich white shoes mangle client control with manifestly guilty super dumb rear end hole clients with social media accounts is so so cathartic.

These trumpies are like sovereign citizen levels of dumbfuck. It's amazing, and there won't likely be another moment you can see honest to god client control and jailhouse lawyer poo poo coming out the white house.

Solkanar512
Dec 28, 2006

by the sex ghost

Enigma89 posted:

On top of it, it's a bit ironic and semi-appreciated that a country who has meddled with other democracies finally had the same poo poo happen to them. :shrug:

No dude, it's loving not appreciated because none of us order or did the work to do that poo poo in other countries.

axeil
Feb 14, 2006

Flip Yr Wig posted:

Craven liberal pervert Josh Marshall, yadda yadda yadda, but this timeline makes a lot of sense:

That June 13th promise of a speech looks really, really damning right now.

TheScott2K
Oct 26, 2003

I'm just saying, there's a nonzero chance Trump has a really toad penis.

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

Things are mattering at an exponential rate and yet like clockwork we have the usual suspects rushing into the thread to breathlessly assert that nothing matters.

Lately it's just a slow drip off people stopping by to make this same comment

Xae
Jan 19, 2005

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

Things are mattering at an exponential rate and yet like clockwork we have the usual suspects rushing into the thread to breathlessly assert that nothing matters.

It is like they were never engaging in good faith.


I mean "they were just shut posting, IRONICALLY".

Or something.


Over/Under on the Trump Org getting a subpoena in the next 24 hours?

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf

Ummm, I feel like discussing that you have an easy way to contact Trump Jr isn't going to help his case, Julian

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, MAD-2R World

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

Things are mattering at an exponential rate and yet like clockwork we have the usual suspects rushing into the thread to breathlessly assert that nothing matters.

These people think that Trump not being gone the day a story drops means it doesn't matter.

Of course no mechanism exists to remove a sitting president overnight, so they will always be "right" going by that standard.

And by "right" I mean "really loving stupid."

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


Isn't it extremely problematic for outlaw Julian Assange to be in contact with the son of the US president?

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007

androo posted:

I'm one of the first people to make fun of dipshits in this thread but I really liked the Smash Bros metaphor, outside of the weird fanfic about Mueller who is probably a huge piece of poo poo (don't know much about him but probably a safe assumption).

Seriously people stop writing dumb twitter fanfics of horrible people unleashing justice just because they're maybe on your side this time.

aren't you the moron idiot dummy-dumb who keeps defending greenwald

Randbrick
Sep 28, 2002
Like at some point I can see in my head Jeff Sessions turning to some senior partner at Aiken Gump at a bond hearing going off about how that motherfucker ain't represent him, and he'll plead not guilty right here and it's amazing

Skex
Feb 22, 2012

The great thing about the thousands of slaughtered Palestinian children is that they can't pull away when you fondle them or sniff their hair.

That's a Biden success story.

Chilichimp posted:

"Deal of Defeat"

"The Art of Treason"

TheScott2K
Oct 26, 2003

I'm just saying, there's a nonzero chance Trump has a really toad penis.

Al Borland Corp. posted:

Isn't it extremely problematic for outlaw Julian Assange to be in contact with the son of the US president?

Sex crimes were litigated by the 2016 election

Fitzy Fitz
May 14, 2005




Shimrra Jamaane posted:

Things are mattering at an exponential rate and yet like clockwork we have the usual suspects rushing into the thread to breathlessly assert that nothing matters.

Isn't "mattering" supposed to mean consequences? We're still waiting to see if this will matter/have consequences.

Sulphagnist
Oct 10, 2006

WARNING! INTRUDERS DETECTED

Al Borland Corp. posted:

Isn't it extremely problematic for outlaw Julian Assange to be in contact with the son of the US president?

You are mistaken, after Wikileaks leaked all those Democratic emails, Julian Assange is actually Cool and Good if you're a Republican.

Scipiotik
Mar 2, 2004

"I would have won the race but for that."

Fitzy Fitz posted:

Isn't "mattering" supposed to mean consequences? We're still waiting to see if this will matter/have consequences.

They've got Donny Jr. dead to rights. But who cares about him. Mueller et al are going to try to leverage him up the ladder to get the big boys. And no, we're not going to know poo poo about it until it happens.

farraday
Jan 10, 2007

Lower those eyebrows, young man. And the other one.

Antti posted:

You are mistaken, after Wikileaks leaked all those Democratic emails, Julian Assange is actually Cool and Good if you're a Republican.

Agreed

https://twitter.com/john_podesta/status/884854018824175620

(not the real person)

Sky Shadowing
Feb 13, 2012

At least we're not the Thalmor (yet)
Trump Supporter Flowchart

1. FAKE NEWS
2. If not FAKE NEWS, not illegal.
3. If illegal, didn't know, thus not wrong.
4. If wrong, she would have done worse.
5. BUT HER EMAILS.
6. EEEEEE. MMMAIIILLLLS.
7. Repeat 5-7 as necessary

EatinCake
Oct 21, 2008

The Glumslinger posted:

Ummm, I feel like discussing that you have an easy way to contact Trump Jr isn't going to help his case, Julian

doesn't this imply Assange also knew about the email before it was published? Christ.

DaveWoo
Aug 14, 2004

Fun Shoe

:drat:

Caros
May 14, 2008

Rare, real time footage of Donald Trump Jr being interviewed by the NYT.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQGwrK_yDEg

WorldsStongestNerd
Apr 28, 2010

by Fluffdaddy

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

Things are mattering at an exponential rate and yet like clockwork we have the usual suspects rushing into the thread to breathlessly assert that nothing matters.

Toxx yourself then if you are so confident. Do you believe Jr. will be indicted?

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf

EatinCake posted:

doesn't this imply Assange also knew about the email before it was published? Christ.

:lol:, I hadn't thought about that either


Oh my god, if there is an email chain somewhere with Don Jr and Julian on it, I might never stop laughing

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster
Conservative media is finally starting to form their narrative.

https://twitter.com/EdRogersDC/status/884295507077722112

https://twitter.com/DLoesch/status/884835581305524226
https://twitter.com/DLoesch/status/884835811388207105

https://twitter.com/realmikedoughty/status/884800272240967681
https://twitter.com/MedianPolitics/status/884820158438457344
https://twitter.com/GovMikeHuckabee/status/884813352308011008
https://twitter.com/billoreilly/status/884836193376108544
https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/884846257910407168
https://twitter.com/seanhannity/status/884823448731701248
https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/884721408726769666
https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/884819621043240960
https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/884819410774507520
https://twitter.com/peterjhasson/status/884757206557753344
https://twitter.com/tommyomalley/status/884816924517048323
https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/884807325109805058
https://twitter.com/johncardillo/status/884812845334056961
https://twitter.com/YossiGestetner/status/884809703225798659

Tayter Swift
Nov 18, 2002

Pillbug

EatinCake posted:

doesn't this imply Assange also knew about the email before it was published? Christ.

Eh not necessarily. It could mean that Junior simply contacted and consulted with Assange and acted upon his advice prior to speaking with his own attorney.

Caros
May 14, 2008

Running talking point seems to be "Trump Jr isn't a criminal because a Clinton aide did something similar with Ukraine."

Have to say I'm kind of baffled by the number of people who are going around saying it isn't an issue because they didn't get anything, as if the only source for that wasn't the guy who lied to them five times already.

Chilichimp
Oct 24, 2006

TIE Adv xWampa

It wamp, and it stomp

Grimey Drawer
"I really think we shouldn't put the horse before the cart on this one, guys." - Some Conservative Shithead

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf

Bishounen Bonanza posted:

Toxx yourself then if you are so confident. Do you believe Jr. will be indicted?

He will probably end up indicted, pardoned, or squealing on more important people to avoid jail time


I set no time table for this to occur, but its extremely hard to see one of those not occurring

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

phonies are always approaching campaigns to peddle fake dirt, that's why the president's close family and campaign staff always meet with them

oh also those phonies are named, by name, in laws sanctioning russia

Dr. Red Ranger
Nov 9, 2011

Nap Ghost
Could simply be Assange trying to take advantage of the situation for some notoriety, dumb as it may be.

EatinCake
Oct 21, 2008

Dr. Red Ranger posted:

Could simply be Assange trying to take advantage of the situation for some notoriety, dumb as it may be.

Most likely.

WeAreTheRomans
Feb 23, 2010

by R. Guyovich
Leon Trotsky 2012 I don't mind the tweetstorms, but I'm not sure anyone needed Debra Messing's hot takes on the situation

Sulphagnist
Oct 10, 2006

WARNING! INTRUDERS DETECTED

evilweasel posted:

phonies are always approaching campaigns to peddle fake dirt, that's why the president's close family and campaign staff always meet with them

oh also those phonies are named, by name, in laws sanctioning russia

Also when that phony contacts them and promises dirt on the other candidate provided by a foreign government you go "Yes that sounds awesome when can we meet"

OldTennisCourt
Sep 11, 2011

by VideoGames
Trump is going to serve out his 4 years and we 're going to have all these scandals that do nothing because A. Democrats are too poo poo and scared to start anything and B. Republicans will do everything in their power that he stays in.

The best we can hope for is he doesn't get re-elected, even that's probably gonna happen though.

eviltastic
Feb 8, 2004

Fan of Britches
I can totally see Assange sending Trump Jr. a message saying he'd be happy to publish the emails in the sense of requesting that Trump Jr. send them to him for publication.

Paradoxish
Dec 19, 2003

Will you stop going crazy in there?

The Glumslinger posted:

He will probably end up indicted, pardoned, or squealing on more important people to avoid jail time


I set no time table for this to occur, but its extremely hard to see one of those not occurring

Who do you think he's going to roll on? Honest question, because this came up a lot when we were talking about Flynn too and the problem is that there isn't really any strong evidence that anyone higher up the food chain was involved in anything yet. Jared Kushner maybe? It sounds like this may possibly gently caress him, but are people really expecting Trump Jr. to have legitimately incriminating information on his dad?

goethe.cx
Apr 23, 2014


OldTennisCourt posted:

Trump is going to serve out his 4 years and we 're going to have all these scandals that do nothing because A. Democrats are too poo poo and scared to start anything and B. Republicans will do everything in their power that he stays in.

The best we can hope for is he doesn't get re-elected, even that's probably gonna happen though.

What would Democrats starting anything look like, pray tell

angel opportunity
Sep 7, 2004

Total Eclipse of the Heart
When Zuckerberg runs against Trump we'll see if it will be China or Russia that can meddle best in the election and decide who gets to be president

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

Oxxidation posted:

Reminder that in the late nineties/early oughts Donald Trump's brand was so utterly poisoned, so fraught with bankruptcy and fraud, that no one would lend money to him and he had ever-mounting evidence for an arrest over one of his numerous white-collar crimes, and he still wasn't arrested because he was literally more valuable out of jail than in it.

Every facet of American society is built around guarding the wealthy from consequences. What's happening here is not nearly severe enough to break that shield.

This.

This is what people do not get. It's one thing to say "They can't DO THAT!!! It's against the LAW!" But people forget that the ones enforcing the law are the same people who write them. Black guy snatches a purse or smokes a rock? 10-15 years. White bankers rob millions in people's retirement money? Nothing. 5 years in a country club half way house, the firm gets a government bailout and half of those criminals get appointed to the cabinet.

The law is only as strong as those enforcing it. Trump is going to get away with everything he's doing unless he really, really fucks with the people who make more money than he does, and even then I'm not so sure.

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OldTennisCourt
Sep 11, 2011

by VideoGames

Koyaanisgoatse posted:

What would Democrats starting anything look like, pray tell

Actual full on calls and work to impeachment.

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