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OldTennisCourt posted:I can't be the only person who always thinks of the DA from Law and Order when I hear this name. No, I think this every time too. Doesn't help that Fred Thompson was also on Law and Order and was also actually in Congress as well, so I get his mug mentally mixed in there alongside it.
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Jul 11, 2017 21:28
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Really have to love this one since Jr dumped the emails himself and confirmed everything before the NYT and its anonymous source
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I do like how something truly damaging comes out against Trump and *suddenly* there are huge conspiracies against the DNC that no one ever heard of before.
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Jul 11, 2017 21:29
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This seems to have really hardened the left/right divide in America
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No Safe Word posted:No, I think this every time too. Doesn't help that Fred Thompson was also on Law and Order and was also actually in Congress as well, so I get his mug mentally mixed in there alongside it. Since we're SLIGHTLY on topic, I'm rewatching L&O again and Serena is the most annoying character ever
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Lollll arm flailing http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/media/341493-opinion-forget-don-jrs-email-its-hillary-clinton-who-colluded-with OPINION | Forget Don Jr.'s email — it's Hillary Clinton who 'colluded' with Russia
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Yes, the last nearly 25 years have done that.
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Rinkles posted:Pardon my ignorance of the law, but is anything we know about the meeting, the set up and people involved, actionable as the facts stand now? Yes, here is a good run down https://www.vox.com/world/2017/7/10/15950590/donald-trump-jr-new-york-times-illegal It at minimum violates a number of Federal Election Laws, at an absolute minimum
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Fox is officially on the "He released the emails himself and is therefore innocent. Also, he got nothing out of the meeting." message train.quote:Anchor Julie Banderas cut into a discussion with two guests about how the initial New York Times article about the meeting was less damaging than expected, with news of the Trump Jr. emails.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:drat. I thought this Russia email thing was going to sink Trump, but Ted Cruz just ruled it out. "If Russia reached out to Donald Trump Jr., who I'd remind you is a private citizen, it was because they sensed strength and wanted to avoid punishment from a strong American leader." I know Cruz means Trump, but this line can also be read as "Russia wanted Trump to win because they were scared shitless of what Clinton would do to papa Putin and Russia for their bullshit." NoDamage posted:...if he is charged with contempt or perjury what's stopping Trump from pardoning him again? They can just keep calling on them to testify until either they give up, Trump gives up, or they impeach Trump so he can't keep pardoning people.
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Underwhelmed posted:Why? poo poo is going down in the best possible way from the perspective of someone who wants to disrupt. Yeah. It's worth pointing out that there isn't a lot of evidence that Russia's hacking attempts actually made any difference, or that they had any real influence on the election at all. You can explain Trump's win just fine through a combination of voter suppression and our lovely election system. Russia's goal here is probably just to create as much disruption as possible so they can do things in their own backyard without a strong US to stop them.
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Reik posted:Will this be streamed? Not sure, I can't find anything, might be worth checking his Facebook
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Skippy Granola posted:This seems to have really hardened the left/right divide in America We're baking with animosity until we get a nice golden-brown crust.
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quote:"It's not a smoking gun, but it is a gun meeting with a Russian bullet about their mutual desire to smoke," Colbert says http://www.rollingstone.com/tv/news/see-stephen-colbert-on-donald-trump-jrs-russia-meeting-w491687
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NoDamage posted:...if he is charged with contempt or perjury what's stopping Trump from pardoning him again? Nothing. Would be interesting to see what happened to Trump's approval rating if he did so.
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Jul 11, 2017 21:34
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How do we know Trump Jr. got nothing out of the meeting? Because he says so?
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mcmagic posted:Nothing. Would be interesting to see what happened to Trump's approval rating if he did so. Might tick all the way down to 37.9%
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The thing that never ceases to amaze me is that these pundits are choosing to blatantly ignore something incredibly serious... to defend Trump jr. The following is from a Hill article which I won't link because they don't deserve clicks for it, but- quote:As the Times stories aimed at Donald Trump Jr. emerged, Trump Jr. and those involved opted for transparency every step of the way. ...like what? He was literally lying about it yesterday.
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Reik posted:How do we know Trump Jr. got nothing out of the meeting? Because he says so? Correct, that's what's so crazy. Even their story is criminal. Reality can only be as bad or worse.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Fox is officially on the "He released the emails himself and is therefore innocent. Also, he got nothing out of the meeting." message train. Honestly it's jarring to me that it took them a full six plus hours to come up with The Message.
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EatinCake posted:The thing that never ceases to amaze me is that these pundits are choosing to blatantly ignore something incredibly serious... to defend Trump jr. Yeah, he was only interested in being transparent when it became clear that the NYT had him dead to rights on the emails.
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When people start referring to this as an "everything bagel" instead of a "nothingburger" I want credit.
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What the hell do you do against a political elite that has absolutely no shame, consistency, or scruples? They don't give a gently caress if what they're doing is wrong or disingenuous, they'll just keep playing their stupid cards.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Quite possible they're the leakers. Putin's goal is chaos. It's definitely my bet. American law isn't hidden or unknown to those interested in it. I think it's a safe assumption that a country in direct opposition of America for 70 years is aware of what is and isn't illegal, vis a vis meeting with a foreign spy and colluding to topple a political opponent.
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quote:Rep. Marsha Blackburn (R-TN) said Republicans have always known Russia is “a bad actor.” She wants to know whether Trump Jr. was tricked into taking the meeting.
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EatinCake posted:The thing that never ceases to amaze me is that these pundits are choosing to blatantly ignore something incredibly serious... to defend Trump jr. That article is written by a paid Trumpist stooge. What did you expect?
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The Glumslinger posted:Yes, here is a good run down Also, there's those pesky security clearance forms they're going to have to "amend" again.
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I keep seeing Pepes say only 3 of the original 17 intelligence agencies now believe Russia interfered in the election. I asusme this is just Pepe misquoting or outright fabrication?
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I see the right wing propaganda machine is already trying to deflect this poo poo back onto Hillary, but I have to imagine that it's just plain not gonna loving work this time. I also don't get why they're trying to defend Trump Jr. He's basically offering himself up as a martyr at this point, so why don't you just throw his rear end right under the bus so Donnie Sr. can come out of this unscathed as he always does?
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Fox is officially on the "He released the emails himself and is therefore innocent. Also, he got nothing out of the meeting." message train. I thought, for just a second, "boy, they'll look loving ridiculous and discredited in a couple days when we find out the meeting was about the Podesta hacks," and then remembered we're talking about the RWM. Oh well.
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Reik posted:How do we know Trump Jr. got nothing out of the meeting? Because he says so? They've been putting out stories, letting them lie in response to them, and then dropping more poo poo disproving their lies. I'm hoping this will happen again in this case. Ague Proof posted:I keep seeing Pepes say only 3 of the original 17 intelligence agencies now believe Russia interfered in the election. I asusme this is just Pepe misquoting or outright fabrication? It's a lie
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paperwind posted:I see the right wing propaganda machine is already trying to deflect this poo poo back onto Hillary, but I have to imagine that it's just plain not gonna loving work this time. I also don't get why they're trying to defend Trump Jr. He's basically offering himself up as a martyr at this point, so why don't you just throw his rear end right under the bus so Donnie Sr. can come out of this unscathed as he always does? All they need to do it really get out some talking points that their rube base can believe and repeat to themselves over and over again.
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Reik posted:How do we know Trump Jr. got nothing out of the meeting? Because he says so? Does it matter? It's kind of like arguing that you shouldn't go to jail because the cop you thought was a prostitute never actually had sex with you. Except in this case the prostitute wasn't a cop, you just decided to go to the police station and confess anyway.
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If McDonald's put out a tweet of Donald Trump Jr. eating a "nothingburger" with "I'm loving it!" captioned I would be so happy.Paradoxish posted:Does it matter? It's kind of like arguing that you shouldn't go to jail because the cop you thought was a prostitute never actually had sex with you. Except in this case the prostitute wasn't a cop, you just decided to go to the police station and confess anyway. No, it doesn't matter, I was just wondering how they knew he got nothing from the meeting.
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paperwind posted:I see the right wing propaganda machine is already trying to deflect this poo poo back onto Hillary, but I have to imagine that it's just plain not gonna loving work this time. I also don't get why they're trying to defend Trump Jr. He's basically offering himself up as a martyr at this point, so why don't you just throw his rear end right under the bus so Donnie Sr. can come out of this unscathed as he always does? Because when one person finally gets thrown under the bus and that is actually his own flesh and blood, than no one else is proved sacred enough to keep in Donnie Sr's eyes. And thus the blood letting will begin.
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I love when Trump scandals drop everyone with an R next to their name scatters mumbling "deeply concerning if true" before rallying once they realize the pee video didn't drop yet and their interns get the memo on how to respond
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Clearly they're hoping that in a meeting with three campaign members, one Russian lawyer, and her translator, no one will contradict their statements that they didn't learn anything and she was just some hysterical broad.
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Ague Proof posted:I keep seeing Pepes say only 3 of the original 17 intelligence agencies now believe Russia interfered in the election. I asusme this is just Pepe misquoting or outright fabrication? It's false. The new talking point is that only 4 intel agencies said Russia did it, but that includes the FBI, the CIA, the NSA, as well as the office of the DNI (which oversees all 17 intel agencies).
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Crabtree posted:Because when one person finally gets thrown under the bus and that is actually his own flesh and blood, than no one else is proved sacred enough to keep in Donnie Sr's eyes. And thus the blood letting will begin. There isn't going to be any bloodletting.
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