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I ordered the game, but lol@ amazon shipping to hawaii, I'll get in a fuckin week, so I have lots of time to plan my build  I was thinking: Vaan: Archer/Red Battlemage (Character to mostly ignore for most of the game, I'll drag him out for tough optional stuff because red mage's Ardor spell plus the archer's Burning Bow will destroy poo poo) Penelo: Monk/Black Mage (Primary black mage with monk's high level white magic support, can become a Punchwoman Supreme with a simple equipment change) Balthier: White Mage/Machinist (Stealin' healin'. Not sold on machinist but I wanted to use all the classes and it's what was left.) Fran: Foebreaker/Shikari (Melee tank rabbit.) Basch: Knight/Time Battlemage (Support tank) Ashe: Samurai/Uhlan (Genji glove with actually good weapons, samurai magic power support for uhlan's black magic)
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Meyers-Briggs Testicle posted:what's the hardest final fantasy that isn't 2 After FF3D, I would say the hardest is FF13. My fingers hurt after playing it this last time and I still couldn't beat Orphan without Poison.
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Jul 12, 2017 05:55
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Jul 12, 2017 05:58
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Here's what I'm thinking for my party, combination of min/max and flavor choices: Basch: Samurai/Knight Balthier: Machinist/Whitemage Fran: Monk/Blackmage Ashe: Whitemage/Timemage Vaan: Shikari/Foebreaker Penelo: Redmage/Archer Basch, Baltheir and Fran being my main party, with Ashe as the next most used. Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 06:04 on Jul 12, 2017 |
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Jul 12, 2017 05:59
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Cephas posted:When do you unlock the second job, anyway? after the first esper
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Jul 12, 2017 06:01
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Cephas posted:When do you unlock the second job, anyway? After you get the first esper. It made me so happy to have all these options. Speed mode makes it so easy. I remember struggling with Garuda for a long time on PS2. He just melted this time around.
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Jul 12, 2017 06:05
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Meyers-Briggs Testicle posted:what's the hardest final fantasy that isn't 2 Versions of 1 that still use spell charges instead of MP are a pretty reasonable challenge.
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Jul 12, 2017 06:05
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Bongo Bill posted:Versions of 1 that still use spell charges instead of MP are a pretty reasonable challenge. There are versions of 1 that use MP!?
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Jul 12, 2017 06:06
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Zaphod42 posted:There are versions of 1 that use MP!? The GBA, PSP, and mobile remakes rebalance the whole game to be considerably easier, and use MP instead of spell charges. They also add a lot of post-game content, some of which is even fun. As far as I know, it's only the original releases and the PS1 version ("Final Fantasy Origins") that use spell charges. I don't know which category the Wonderswan Color version fits into. Warning: do not play the MSX version of Final Fantasy 1
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Jul 12, 2017 06:08
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Majik Ninja posted:I remember struggling with Garuda for a long time on PS2. He just melted this time around. Did you feed him the berries? I love that that works and you can just go roughshod on Garuda. Zaphod42 posted:There are versions of 1 that use MP!? They also made it so that potions don't heal 40 HP and spells work as intended. Downside is the final boss is basically a slab of beef for HP that previous encounters don't prepare you for so enjoy tedium if you've been relying on black magic as your damage source. The post game dungeons are... uh, variable in quality but you get to fight Shinryu and such in FF1 which I guess is neat. The super final mega dungeon is a loving nightmare and the plot surrounding it is After Years stupid. Barudak fucked around with this message at 06:19 on Jul 12, 2017 |
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Jul 12, 2017 06:17
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The reason why Final Fantasy Origins is the best version of FF1 is that it keeps a good difficulty curve while simultaneously fixing the nonfunctional spells, buggy formulas, etc.
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Jul 12, 2017 06:22
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Meyers-Briggs Testicle posted:what's the hardest final fantasy that isn't 2 Probably 13, it takes a while to get going but once you hit Barthandantalus 1 it's less about difficulty spikes and more a series of vertical cliffs.
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Jul 12, 2017 07:01
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Barudak posted:so enjoy tedium if you've been relying on black magic as your damage source. uh excuse you black magic is the ultimate source of damage. it has haste AND tempr
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Jul 12, 2017 07:29
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Every time I play I end up making Ashe a Knight because I feel it fits her too well. So for Zodiac Age I'll make her Knight/Time Mage. Thematic and fits her abilities in later game incarnations.
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Jul 12, 2017 07:32
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If you do not pick Samurai for Basch you've made the wrong choice
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Jul 12, 2017 07:42
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WaltherFeng posted:If you do not pick Samurai for Basch you've made the wrong choice Yeah Samurai/Knight for Basch is so natural and also owns hard
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Jul 12, 2017 08:00
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Barudak posted:The post game dungeons are... uh, variable in quality but you get to fight Shinryu and such in FF1 which I guess is neat. The super final mega dungeon is a loving nightmare and the plot surrounding it is After Years stupid. I love that when they picked 4 bosses from each FF to fight in that game, they included the Phantom Train as one of the ones from VI.  The PSP version also had a couple of neat remixes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVPZ5EEKsv0
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corn in the bible posted:Even if 13 had a good story it would still be boring and suck hth Just like your posts and opinions Hth corn in the bible posted:ff12 isn't good Another one to add to the pile ApplesandOranges posted:They still have their merits and being able to attack from range and dodge AoEs is great, and the various elemental ammo can be very useful. Just don't expect them to be kings of DPS. And animation speed THE AWESOME GHOST posted:Other Games where you are fighting evil governments, and then suddenly gods Also ffXIII Arguably FFXIV Calaveron posted:Still think it's a shame that despite the game's settings and very varied races of peoples, your team still consists of nothing but humans and a human with bunny ears And whose entire race dresses like hookers Mega64 posted:The final boss of the 1952 and 1956 U.S. Presidential Elections Adlai Stevenson joins your party in FF6. Whose party does Trump join
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Jul 12, 2017 08:59
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Kalenn Istarion posted:Whose party does Trump join zidane
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I think 4 Heroes of Light for the DS used the old FF1 charges magic system but I can't remember much about that game including if it was hard or tedious because of that. I know that game was literally proto-Bravely Default but I haven't played that either so can't comment on it either.
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Jul 12, 2017 09:23
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Kalenn Istarion posted:And whose entire race dresses like hookers Don't race shame
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Jul 12, 2017 10:02
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Kelp Me! posted:I think 4 Heroes of Light for the DS used the old FF1 charges magic system but I can't remember much about that game including if it was hard or tedious because of that. IIRC there was no magic cost system, all commands including magic cost a certain number of ability points that you gained during battle. Kalenn Istarion posted:Whose party does Trump join /Update%2008/174-image188.png)
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Jul 12, 2017 10:11
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FFXII is good and my only issue currently is the voices still sound like they were recorded and then re-recorded from somebody just playing the voices on their phone. Not a huge issue since it would have been hell to try and actually get the cast all back and do it again. Side FFX question: Is there not some clever strategy (without Yojimbo) to take out the Dark Aeons without excessive grinding?
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Jul 12, 2017 10:55
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the voices stll dont sound great but at least this time they dont sound like they were recorded in a wendy's bathroom
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Jul 12, 2017 11:06
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They still sound like that to me, I should listen to the old ones again. I'm being boring in my job selection so Vaan's a Shikari and Pene's a White mage.
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:Other Games where you are fighting evil governments, and then suddenly gods
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So I think it's been said, but you can carry items to the main game from Trial Mode, and you can farm it infinitely. You get like 25 lp from the first two stages alone which is a TON early in the game. You can also steal a legendary katana in like stage 5? I think? (Flowering Cactoid).
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Jul 12, 2017 13:02
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FactsAreUseless posted:In 10 you're fighting an evil god, and the big twist is that the government is evil. Yu Yevon wasn't really a god, though. The funniest thing about X's story is that the Yevon rligion, by the time of X, had nothing to do with Yevon. Wakka and Lulu are as clueless as Tidus when Yunalesca and Mika namedrop Yu Yevon.
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I came into this thread to ask if there were any significant differences to Zodiac Age in terms of core gameplay and I see people talking about dual jobs, geez Did they change anything like drop locations or the invisible chest that contains the best bow in the game? I'm a big mega powergamer who knows too much about things like chest locations and drop percentages
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Jul 12, 2017 13:33
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Meyers-Briggs Testicle posted:let me tell you about dustia farming I appreciate this. Now to figure out how to get that deathblade? weapon in the mines, something about high level mimic.
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Jul 12, 2017 13:39
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Dunno about any invisible chests but they changed it so there's some fixed ones with guaranteed items in now and the random ones only contain money or consumables.
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Levantine posted:So I think it's been said, but you can carry items to the main game from Trial Mode, and you can farm it infinitely. You get like 25 lp from the first two stages alone which is a TON early in the game. You can also steal a legendary katana in like stage 5? I think? (Flowering Cactoid). I am going to do this.
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I picked Breaker for Vaan. Debuffery! This game looks fantastic and I don't hear the voice audio problems everyone complained about but I have a nice audio setup with full surround and all that.
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So I'm thinking of making Fran my Foebreaker is this a terrible decision I figure her STR wouldn't matter since axe damage is random anyway, and that basically lets me have Basch be a knight, Balthier a monk, and Penelo works as a black mage. It really only leaves me with what to do with Ashe, since I'm running Vaan as a ninja. EDIT: And subjobs can also help even out people's skill sets, right? I've not even gotten a second party member yet, I dunno how long before they unlock those
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I just made it through the mines in Brujerba (sp) and all this job talk is making me want to restart. Vaan Monk Balthier White Mage Fran Red mage Basch Archer Panelo Uldan? Haven't got Ashe yet but considering Sam, though I have heard that is some kind of myth.
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Just keep playing with your job choices and don't worry about it. ...but in case you really need to have the perfect job setup: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rBpOmegCizn3KOPwrKvC5yipu9Yfh0IZ6YE-mh_e59g/edit?usp=sharing
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I'm not worrying about minmaxing my first go around, but you better drat believe I'm going to do MAX DPS JOB COMBOS when I spin through the game a second time.
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So I'm passed the initial starting dungeons, at the point of meeting up with Balthier and Fran to go rescue Penelo. This is roughly the point I've reached in the past when playing this game, but I am having way more fun this time around. Very excited to take on the three or so available hunts I've accepted and then try out the Trial mode. Game's good.
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Sefal posted:I appreciate this. You need to do the Mines sidequest that revolve around the little coastal town and the Cactoid hunt to get the key to the mines. Then, once inside the mines, there's a unique mark mimic that you can steal the weapon from. I'm pretty sure all of this is available after the Tomb of Kings when the game really opens up for primo sequence breaking
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RazzleDazzleHour posted:You need to do the Mines sidequest that revolve around the little coastal town and the Cactoid hunt to get the key to the mines. Then, once inside the mines, there's a unique mark mimic that you can steal the weapon from. I'm pretty sure all of this is available after the Tomb of Kings when the game really opens up for primo sequence breaking That was it! I remember now. Thank you!
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