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Beastie posted:Going through and playing it with dev commentary is awesome. Literally every inch of their level design was completely intentional and the result of play testing things like crazy. Yeah, the dev commentary is incredible. These days I think all the Half Life games work better as atmosphere safaris. The gameplay hasn't aged all that great and yeah the gun combat has been outdone by other newer games (HL's shotgun is still pretty fantastic though) but the real reason Half Life game replays are still good is that every square inch of those games is full of atmosphere and mood to an almost unparalleled degree even today. Demon's Souls is the only game I can think of with a similar thing going on, where even just standing in some place without enemies and where nothing is actually happening is just as engaging as great gameplay. Maybe Morrowind is in that category too. There's not a whole lot else that touches it. And for thread content: Half Life 1's Xen level and everything after it was amazing and very good... as long as you enabled god mode and noclip to skip the bullshit. The atmosphere there was amazing too.
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the idea of playing ravenholm is filling me with dread right now. those god drat jumper crabs
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It was always the poison ones for me, even though I know that they wouldn't kill me.
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basic hitler posted:the idea of playing ravenholm is filling me with dread right now. those god drat jumper crabs I was able to do the feat of beating it with only the gravity gun. Some of the most ball-busting gameplay I've done. fruit on the bottom posted:It was always the poison ones for me, even though I know that they wouldn't kill me. I think they address how people weren't too scared of them when they were insta-kill, so they had them knock you down to one and people absolutely panicked and started shooting everything in the room. They hid those fuckers well.
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They also have that rattlesnake noise that makes me reflexively use the SMG alt fire at the ground and kill myself.
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Jul 12, 2017 18:44
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Yeah it's the audio cue. It's one half japanese horror film villain one half rattlesnake and its 100% loving unnerving
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Jul 12, 2017 18:46
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yeah theyre pretty good at sending you into a panic
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Unpopular opinion: When I play rpg's I tend to ignore crafting outside the most basic elements. Every time I play Skyrim I craft a few potions but completely neglect enchanting weapons and armor. I treat them like very laborious hack n' slashes. I don't have time to sit there enchanting things and weaving leather into a lovely loin clothe. I basically put the bare minimum into rpgs and tend to focus on the actual gameplay and not pay attention to stats spreadsheets.
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Jul 12, 2017 18:56
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Beastie posted:Unpopular opinion: I'm getting to the point where if a game even has crafting in it I'm just going to skip it.
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Beastie posted:Unpopular opinion: Skyrim's crafting is especially grind-oriented. They should just have quests that up it for you.
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Jul 12, 2017 19:00
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MMOs are all extremely loving boring and should be used to diagnose depression
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Wouldn't it be cool if they made Half-Life 3? I mean, I think that would be pretty neat It actually kind of sucks that they abandoned the franchise entirely after leaving it on such a cliffhanger
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Jul 12, 2017 19:10
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Zzulu posted:Wouldn't it be cool if they made Half-Life 3? I disagree, I think it's hilarious
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Jul 12, 2017 19:17
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Zzulu posted:Wouldn't it be cool if they made Half-Life 3? At this point I'd just like to see the rough story outline and I'd have my closure.
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Jul 12, 2017 19:21
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We're not getting HL3. Kids these days don't give two shits about and don't even know what it is. The game is like 13 years old. I would settle for storyboards though.
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Beastie posted:We're not getting HL3. Kids these days don't give two shits about and don't even know what it is. The game is like 13 years old. The writers left Valve The designers left Valve Valve now makes VR controllers and only sells games Gaben, ever closer to a fulminating heart attack Yeah I think HL3 is probably not coming soon
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Jul 12, 2017 19:31
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Video with a large, expansive world tend to feel really empty. The quests are repetitive, places kinda look the same, and there's a lot of moving around, killing the same things. I wish games would scale down their ambition. It's much better to have a precisely designed small world that artfully hints at a bigger, believable universe than to try to encompass everything in one game. This probably isn't a very popular opinion given how wide open world games like GTA and Skyrim and Fallout are widely seen as the best. But I think this overambition is also gonna be why video games will always struggle to qualify as art. How can games that try to depict every detail of a world remotely compare to movies that very selectively choose its few details? When you stretch out a designer's priorities like that... there's no winning.
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Jul 12, 2017 19:43
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is valve still working on source 2, i kind of expected hl3 to be the launch title, not that i really care about hl3 itself
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Jul 12, 2017 19:56
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:I'll make an allowance for tmnt tournament fighters. tmnt tournament fighters has aged terribly except for the part where sisyphus's grab looks like he's humping people, which was great with april 'i can fight now for some reason and that means that clearly i should wear way way less clothing' o'neal
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Vegetable posted:Video with a large, expansive world tend to feel really empty. The quests are repetitive, places kinda look the same, and there's a lot of moving around, killing the same things.. See, I totally agree with this, and it makes me genuinely not understand why the new gta games are popular. I get GTA 1, the top down one. There were tons of hidden secrets, but in the new ones, there's very little to discover that you haven't seen 100 miles ago. At least in fallout (but not new Vegas, don't understand how people can prefer it?) There's actually cool unique poo poo every few meters. Any new building is going to have something interesting about it, and if you wander a little while you'll find something weird.
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Jul 12, 2017 20:03
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I'm pretty burned out on open world games that don't allow hilarious co-op. Not sure if that is unpopular. Ghost Recon Wildlands is awesome with friends and is close to co-op Mercenaries as we'll ever get.
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food court bailiff posted:tmnt tournament fighters has aged terribly except for the part where sisyphus's grab looks like he's humping people, which was great with april 'i can fight now for some reason and that means that clearly i should wear way way less clothing' o'neal lol when I played I picked a character and they seemed like total unbeatable horseshit and so I had fun!!!
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Jul 12, 2017 20:07
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i dont think open world games being boring trash is an unpopular opinion, or that co op can make pretty much anything decent
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Maya Fey posted:i dont think open world games being boring trash is an unpopular opinion, or that co op can make pretty much anything decent Coop with friends making any game enjoyable is such a known effect that if the ONLY good thing anyone says about a game is "it's fun to play with friends" then you can bet your rear end it's a real lovely game.
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Jul 12, 2017 20:09
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Games are not art and I prefer big empty open-world sandboxes where I can do whatever I want and have fun with the gameplay rather than some poo poo like Spec Ops The Line that I played once, liked the story, and have no reason to ever revisit ever again.
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Jul 12, 2017 20:11
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I think people love New Vegas so much because it is one of the few modern games that actually has role-playing. I wish they fleshed out the actual New Vegas area out a lot more and had less emphasis on the wasteland.
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Jul 12, 2017 20:13
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New Vegas is supposed to feel empty and wild out in the boonies.
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All games from now on should really just be Dig Dug remasters imo
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Chomp8645 posted:Coop with friends making any game enjoyable is such a known effect that if the ONLY good thing anyone says about a game is "it's fun to play with friends" then you can bet your rear end it's a real lovely game. *gestures to mario party 1-15 or whatever they're up to now* a bone to pick posted:Games are not art and I prefer big empty open-world sandboxes where I can do whatever I want and have fun with the gameplay rather than some poo poo like Spec Ops The Line that I played once, liked the story, and have no reason to ever revisit ever again. I replayed it when I got a newer compy and could run it at full res, full detail. It would be in my short list with "papers, please" if you put a gun to my head and said "prove videogames can be art."
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Power_of_the_glory posted:I think people love New Vegas so much because it is one of the few modern games that actually has role-playing. I wish they fleshed out the actual New Vegas area out a lot more and had less emphasis on the wasteland. For me I like New Vegas because they actually hired more than two voice actors and it doesn't have the Bethesda Steamroll where 7 hours in you're a master of everything in the game.
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Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:The writers left Valve That's "knife enthusiast" Gaben according to some. Knife enthusiast is another name for psychopath on most of the western world
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Power_of_the_glory posted:I think people love New Vegas so much because it is one of the few modern games that actually has role-playing. I wish they fleshed out the actual New Vegas area out a lot more and had less emphasis on the wasteland. I'VE GOT SPURS THAT JINGLE JANGLE JINGLE
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Jul 12, 2017 20:22
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THEY HAVE THINGS LIKE THE ATOM BOMB SO I THINK I'LL STAY WHERE I AHM
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Jul 12, 2017 20:35
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That's another of the ways new Vegas was better than fallout 3 and skyrim.
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Jul 12, 2017 20:36
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Chomp8645 posted:Read this if you want to have thoughts about levels. Interesting read, thanks.
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Power_of_the_glory posted:I think people love New Vegas so much because it is one of the few modern games that actually has role-playing. I wish they fleshed out the actual New Vegas area out a lot more and had less emphasis on the wasteland. I hated the strip in new Vegas, and I just murder all three casino factions.
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Jul 12, 2017 20:38
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FF12 is the best FF
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a bone to pick posted:I'm getting to the point where if a game even has crafting in it I'm just going to skip it. Crafting sucks in most RPG's and most games in general. FFIX's synthesis system was okay. Dead Rising had a good weapon-crafting system. Other than that, minecraft style punch element to get pieces to combine with other pieces is loving abyssmal and has actively made me hate any game I see with even a glimmer of that type of system. Surprisingly the most in-depth crafting system I've seen was in FFXI (not FFIX). The game had 8 elements and a crystal for each element. The crystal was the catalyst you used to combine other items. But you could critically fail/lose your poo poo based on a variety of factors. The day of the week (in game), phase of the moon, and direction you were facing all had an effect on whether or not you got HQ (+1, +2 etc.), simply made MORE of an item (like food), or hosed it up and lost everything. If you take that into account during the game's heyday where some items were incredibly rare due to be camped by Chinese real-money trade assholes you pretty much had a system where people would quit a game they played for years just because of one hosed up synth that cost them 30 million gil.
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