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Ausmund posted:That's what I'm saying. It's worth trying to understand why they're saying it instead of leaping to a negative conclusion about them. The two are not mutually exclusive.
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Who What Now posted:*leans in close to the mic, lips like a puckered anus quivering with unreleased diarrhea*
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At the very least there are many, many people that I cannot redeem and I'm not going to waste time trying.
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Ausmund posted:Nobody is irredeemable. True. After all, even Hitler killed Nazis.
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Who What Now posted:At the very least there are many, many people that I cannot redeem and I'm not going to waste time trying.
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Groovelord Neato posted:all of the people that support a guy that ran the most nakedly racist campaign in living memory are definitely racist otherwise they wouldn't have supported him. this concept is very simple to understand. Throwing minorities under the bus for tax cuts is racist
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Dikkfor posted:True. After all, even Hitler killed Nazis.
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I would suggest that there are cases where expending the effort to redeem someone at the expense of simply stopping them from acting is wasteful.
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Ausmund posted:If he was captured alive and imprisoned I think he should of been treated humanely. Why?
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Ausmund posted:That doesn't mean they're irredeemable. That just means there are people who don't think it's worth doing. I'm using irredeemable as shorthand for "I don't think they're worth redeeming". If you think otherwise, go make a thread that I won't read about how you're the kek-whisperer because holy poo poo are your post ITT just the worst.
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OwlFancier posted:Why?
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Ausmund posted:My personal principles? Yes evidently, I mean, can you please explain why it matters whether or not you are humane to literal hitler?
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Really though, there's no mode of communication a liberal can engage in with a conservative that won't come off as sounding whiny (if empathetic), or smug (if righteous). Unlike American conservatism which is a political strategy more than it is a philosophy, liberalism and leftism (to different degrees) are a moral imperative. I can't describe to my racist parents why i'm not racist without raising an accusation at them, unspoken or otherwise. I can't convince a rich man why he should pay more of his money forward without implying that he didn't earn his success (he didn't). So what do you say to these people?
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Deified Data posted:So what do you say to these people? Find out who they hate the most, then calmly explain how their children/grandchildren are going to read about said person under the word 'hero' in 20pt bold type. If they refuse education, antagonism until they stroke out is probably the kindest mercy you can offer them.
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Deified Data posted:Really though, there's no mode of communication a liberal can engage in with a conservative that won't come off as sounding whiny (if empathetic), or smug (if righteous). Unlike American conservatism which is a political strategy more than it is a philosophy, liberalism and leftism (to different degrees) are a moral imperative. I can't describe to my racist parents why i'm not racist without raising an accusation at them, unspoken or otherwise. I can't convince a rich man why he should pay more of his money forward without implying that he didn't earn his success (he didn't). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0Ti-gkJiXc Gunna go get some dinner. Sorry for making GBS threads up the thread with Jon Stewart. Interesting discussion though. sargon is a crybaby
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Ausmund posted:I think this is a solid approach You go out and start trying this on the idiots at kekistan rallies and report back your findings.
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I'm still fascinated to hear why we shouldn't be cruel to hitler.
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Ausmund posted:I think this is a solid approach This guy went on to say that even if you use this method, you're lucky to succeed in 1 out of 10 cases.
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Hell yeah I'd kill baby Hitler
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I'd spike baby Hitler like a goddamn football and do an end zone dance as I was destroyed by a time paradox.
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OwlFancier posted:I'm still fascinated to hear why we shouldn't be cruel to hitler. Someone has to mop it up and it's not gonna be pretty. That's all I've got.
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OwlFancier posted:I'm still fascinated to hear why we shouldn't be cruel to hitler. Goering doing the whole "you can't execute me, I'll kill myself" was pretty amusing too given the era.
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Guavanaut posted:Mostly because it would be far more funny to have him in a decent prison whining about how he can't have the latest Mein Kampfbox 360 than going out as a martyr, as with Breivik. Yeah but you could do that and hook his bollock up to a jumper cable every now and then. I think people might be justifiably angry if hitler had a decent quality of life after the second world war.
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Isn't that what they did with Hess? He was captured too early to be part of the actual mass murders, so they just sentenced him to life in prison. Dude lived way longer than they thought, and ended up having a prison just for him after all the other Nazis there died.
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I guess I understand what that guy was trying to say? Some people are brainwashed, they aren't true believers per se. Some guy who's political involvement entirely is voting R because he lives in the suburbs of Gadsden, Alabama and that's just how it is and how it's been since forever is different from someone who is an avowed KKK member. I might be able to have a Bernie Sanders type chat with the Gadsden guy if I make an effort to talk to him. Not going to happen with the Klan member. Making a false equivalency about the merit of the positions, like saying altright guys are most likely all racist is the same as when they say Muslims are all terrorists and refugees are all rapists isn't the way to express this tho
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Cruelty is wrong. That's why we can't be cruel to Hitler. Also, because he's dead.
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Monglo posted:Cruelty is wrong. That's why we can't be cruel to Hitler. My skill at iajutsu is strong and my hanzo steel is razor sharp. Hitler wouldn't feel a thing.
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Just chop up hitler's skeleton. Doesn't matter that he's dead. It's like when Mormons baptize the corpses of heathens, but with weeb knife instead of water.
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i'm not inclined to believe that people itt are saying that their political opponents are irredeemable for any reason other than sheer irrational hate at this point i mean like lol, just listen to yourselves
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Pittsburgh Lambic posted:i'm not inclined to believe that people itt are saying that their political opponents are irredeemable for any reason other than sheer irrational hate at this point Not all Republicans are irredeemable. Many vote R for non-bigoted reasoning, if sometimes flawed reasoning. Many of them can be reached with the right message. People who identify as the alt right? They are almost universally irredeemable.
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I continue to assert that it is not at all contradictory to view someone as a complete piece of poo poo while also thinking they can stop being one.
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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:Throwing minorities under the bus for tax cuts is racist yeah all republicans are racist but i was trying to meet the guy halfway. OwlFancier posted:I continue to assert that it is not at all contradictory to view someone as a complete piece of poo poo while also thinking they can stop being one. this is true the problem is the person has to want to not be a shithead anymore, it's nearly impossible to try to reason it out of them.
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if the internet has taught me anything, its that if you punch hitler you become hitler, so you have to make sure to be as nice as possible to him if you meet him thanks
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Pittsburgh Lambic posted:i'm not inclined to believe that people itt are saying that their political opponents are irredeemable for any reason other than sheer irrational hate at this point My god, it's almost like this is a thread for mockery and jokes, not for serious debate. Edit: I'm not joking when I say you're irredeemably stupid, though, because I don't know how many times you've erroneously conflated hardcore kekistanis with your average non-insane Republicans. Who What Now fucked around with this message at 13:24 on Jul 13, 2017 |
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Making Hitler jokes is very insensitive to the naive notion of engaging Nazis in good faith, and by not respecting this dude who barged in throwing moral accusations at everyone we are garbage monsters
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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:Making Hitler jokes is very insensitive to the naive notion of engaging Nazis in good faith, and by not respecting this dude who barged in throwing moral accusations at everyone we are garbage monsters
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Republicans voted for a guy who: - called Mexicans "rapists", "drug-dealers" and "murderers" - wanted to ban muslims - consistently asserted that the nation's first Black president was born in Kenya Either you like what this person says, or you don't mind it. And that being the case, it's really, REALLY difficult for one to give such a Republican the benefit of the doubt that they are in fact, not racist.
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Yesterday, a Metalcore band called Stray From The Path uploaded the video to their new song 'Goodnight Alt-Right. Said video can be found here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yy-SiZSlmhI. A cursory glance at the comments or dislike bar will tell you one thing, thin-skinned Rationals have thrown their toys out the pram and are currently making GBS threads their diapers at terminal speed. https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/885274057406590977 So much for the TOLERANT left
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Wow the last couple of pages went down the toilet. When someone I knew years ago linked me to a Sargon video, before I read this thread or had much idea about who he was, it was in a conversation of them complaining about immigrants and using him to back up their points. They weren't at the point they would call Hbomberguy or Shaun And Jen cucks but they wouldn't have accepted their arguments or changed any of their opinions. I think for them it was very nationalistic, these people should stay in their own countries, not take jobs and none of their culture should be brought over here. I don't think those opinions will be countered by anything except positive personal exposure to diversity leading to "Hey these immigrants aren't too bad" and a decreased intake of bias pushing media. Carecat fucked around with this message at 16:14 on Jul 13, 2017 |
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Clearly everyone in this thread hates white people and/or mocking YouTube intellectuals Is every D&D thread like this
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