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aware of dog
Nov 14, 2016

Okay, I know racists think all black people look alike, but this is just ridiculous.

Also
https://mobile.twitter.com/NatashaBertrand/status/885498387042377730

aware of dog fucked around with this message at 15:17 on Jul 13, 2017

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Dietrich
Sep 11, 2001

How do we know the Rock is the second coming of Ronald Reagan again?

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

hes both a nationally beloved celebrity and a republican

CuddleCryptid
Jan 11, 2013

Things could be going better

https://twitter.com/AP/status/885502263946596352

whistle

Dr Kool-AIDS
Mar 26, 2004

Dietrich posted:

How do we know the Rock is the second coming of Ronald Reagan again?

People are making up bullshit about him, mostly. He's a Republican, but he's probably more of a Schwarzenegger Republican than a Reagan Republican.

Nosfereefer
Jun 15, 2011

IF YOU FIND THIS POSTER OUTSIDE BYOB, PLEASE RETURN THEM. WE ARE VERY WORRIED AND WE MISS THEM

Sinteres posted:

People are making up bullshit about him, mostly. He's a Republican, but he's probably more of a Schwarzenegger Republican than a Reagan Republican.

This makes me kind of sad that we will never see President Schwarzenegger.

Sloober
Apr 1, 2011

Sinteres posted:

People are making up bullshit about him, mostly. He's a Republican, but he's probably more of a Schwarzenegger Republican than a Reagan Republican.

I could see him in the BOOTSTRAPS camp tbh and i'm pretty sure him running would probably ruin any enjoyment i get out of his movies etc.

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster

quote:

GOP Rep. Agrees With POTUS That It’s Not Clear Putin Favored Trump In 2016

Rep. Chris Stewart (R-UT) on Thursday morning argued that President Donald Trump is right to question the intelligence community’s assessment that the Russian government tried to help Trump win the 2016 election.

During an appearance on CNN, host Alisyn Camerota asked Stewart to react to Trump’s argument in a Christian Broadcasting Network interview that Russian President Vladimir Putin likely wanted Hillary Clinton to win the election.

“I actually agree with him,” Stewart said.

"The greatest sanction we could impose on Russia is cheap energy prices. Because as you know, it’s their most powerful and most successful export. It’s what they use to fund their government,” Stewart said. "Hillary Clinton wanted the United States to tax energy, build windmills, ban coal, and prevent us from accessing the natural resources that are right here on American land. The result of that would be energy prices that are one-hundred, maybe up to two-hundred percent higher. That's a trillion dollar subsidy to Putin."

CroatianAlzheimers
Jun 15, 2009

I can't remember why I'm mad at you...


Nosfereefer posted:

This makes me kind of sad that we will never see President Schwarzenegger.

Uh, yes. Mr. President? James Bawbag, New York Times. What, in your opinion, is best in life?

1337JiveTurkey
Feb 17, 2005

Action movie stars are always Republican because that's what their fans expect but who knows what it actually means in practice?

Dr Kool-AIDS
Mar 26, 2004

Sloober posted:

I could see him in the BOOTSTRAPS camp tbh and i'm pretty sure him running would probably ruin any enjoyment i get out of his movies etc.

I don't want him to run either since he's basically the only celebrity I like and dislike even moderate Republican politicians, but aside from his total lack of qualifications, I think he'd probably be better than most of that lovely party.

RuanGacho
Jun 20, 2002

"You're gunna break it!"

I'll consider voting for a Republican again when and if they clean house of foreign money, racists, lizard people, randbots, tax dodgers, billionares, Rob Schneider, Teenage Mutant Legislative Turtles, Nazis and waterboard Sean Hannity.

I'll consider it.

BarbarianElephant
Feb 12, 2015
The fairy of forgiveness has removed your red text.

botany posted:

Juries are not good. The law is something that should be handled by specialists, not outsourced democratically.

Trump would be pleased to appoint those specialists for you. People who could be completely unbiased.

See the problem?

ReidRansom
Oct 25, 2004


Stairmaster posted:

hes both a nationally beloved celebrity and a republican

Is he definitely really a republican, though? I get the sense he's at best a republican-identifying centrist.

e: yeah this

Sinteres posted:

People are making up bullshit about him, mostly. He's a Republican, but he's probably more of a Schwarzenegger Republican than a Reagan Republican.

BarbarianElephant
Feb 12, 2015
The fairy of forgiveness has removed your red text.

aware of dog posted:

Okay, I know racists think all black people look alike, but this is just ridiculous.

I'm all for employment of the physically handicapped, but a blind man should not be a police officer on active duty.

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


Juries are good but if either the prosecutor or defense wants to kick off a juror the judge should make that decision.

CuddleCryptid
Jan 11, 2013

Things could be going better

Sinteres posted:

I don't want him to run either since he's basically the only celebrity I like and dislike even moderate Republican politicians, but aside from his total lack of qualifications, I think he'd probably be better than most of that lovely party.

Joking aside, same. Right now he is Cool Muscle Guy That Hangs Out With Kids With Muscular Dystrophy. If he starts running and putting out all this crap then it's going to suck.

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

*Stupid Babby*

Dietrich posted:

How do we know the Rock is the second coming of Ronald Reagan again?

There was a survey several years ago of sport watching peoples showing WWE fans were very liberal overall (the only group more liberal were WNBA fans IIRC) but they also were the least likely to vote. The results were pretty correlated to income and ethnicity, and there are many minority wrestling fans.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

aware of dog posted:

I feel like my head's spinning from so many excuses being thrown out in just the last 3 days, I can't keep up

This seems to be what they do. Just obfuscation and subterfuge until they've muddied the discussion so much no one really remembers what the gently caress they were talking about in the first place. It's easy to chalk it up to stupidity but I tend to believe it's intentional and designed to exploit the population's overall short attention span and the 24 hour news cycle.

edit: Oh yeah. one of the funniest things about the suggestions of conspiracy and poo poo is that both Comey and Mueller are Republicans.

aware of dog
Nov 14, 2016
New version of the senate health bill leaked. Some updates:
-$45 billion to help fight the opioid crisis
-People will be allowed to use HSAs to pay their premiums
-People will be allowed to use tax credits on low-cost catastrophic plans
-Keeps some, but not all, of the taxes in the ACA
-Creates a fund to pay insurers for covering high-risk individuals

goethe.cx
Apr 23, 2014


aware of dog posted:

New version of the senate health bill leaked. Some updates:
-$45 billion to help fight the opioid crisis
-People will be allowed to use HSAs to pay their premiums
-People will be allowed to use tax credits on low-cost catastrophic plans
-Keeps some, but not all, of the taxes in the ACA
-Creates a fund to pay insurers for covering high-risk individuals

Still not sure how this has the votes

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

HSAs loving joke.

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!

Mustached Demon posted:

HSAs loving joke.

HSA's are tax cuts for the rich. Full stop.

BarbarianElephant
Feb 12, 2015
The fairy of forgiveness has removed your red text.

Koyaanisgoatse posted:

Still not sure how this has the votes

I think it probably will, because Republicans are realising they cannot pussy around with this any more, they have to pass *something* or look like idiots, and lose the chance to do it next year, because the establishment will be tied up with the Russia investigation.

botany
Apr 27, 2013

by Lowtax

BarbarianElephant posted:

Trump would be pleased to appoint those specialists for you. People who could be completely unbiased.

See the problem?

How is that worse than the current system? Make the appointment of judges something that a bipartisan panel of qualified jurists in each jurisdiction is responsible for. There's still going to be bias (Alabama judges compared to New York judges) but it's miles better than having them elected by the populace. Adopt one of the European systems that allow for the participation of lay judges in certain cases if you are unwilling to give up the idea of a jury trial completely, I don't care. But leaving the fate of defendants in the hands of 12 morons fresh off the street is mad.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

BarbarianElephant posted:

I think it probably will, because Republicans are realising they cannot pussy around with this any more, they have to pass *something* or look like idiots, and lose the chance to do it next year, because the establishment will be tied up with the Russia investigation.

Nah cause they're still in the same debacle where it's not conservative enough for the Ted Cruzes and Rand Pauls of the party, but it's way too hardcore for the "saner" Republicans who are getting yelled at by their constituents.

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

Zapf Dingbat posted:

The best pee, the most pee. Pee like you wouldn't believe.

I've peed on things you people wouldn't believe. Yellow streams of fire off the shoulder of a hooker. I watched P-beams glitter in the dark near the hotel's bed. All those moments will be lost in time, like drops in streams. Time to flush.

botany
Apr 27, 2013

by Lowtax

aware of dog posted:

New version of the senate health bill leaked. Some updates:
-$45 billion to help fight the opioid crisis
-People will be allowed to use HSAs to pay their premiums
-People will be allowed to use tax credits on low-cost catastrophic plans
-Keeps some, but not all, of the taxes in the ACA
-Creates a fund to pay insurers for covering high-risk individuals

I don't see the freedom caucus ever being okay with this, tbh.

edit: wait this is the senate bill, I'm a moron.

botany fucked around with this message at 15:42 on Jul 13, 2017

No Butt Stuff
Jun 10, 2004

mcmagic posted:

HSA's are tax cuts for the rich. Full stop.

HSA's probably help middle class people way more than the rich, but now we'll get into the whole "if you make more than 30k you're rich" thing.

Lightning Lord
Feb 21, 2013

$200 a day, plus expenses

CyberPingu posted:

He also played college ball in Florida

Yes, but would his CFL career be held against him?

Sinteres posted:

People are making up bullshit about him, mostly. He's a Republican, but he's probably more of a Schwarzenegger Republican than a Reagan Republican.

I could easily see him being a hardcore centrist. It doesnt seem in his nature to try and lock the other party totally out, maybe he'd revive bipartisanship. Or get impeached for trying.

aware of dog posted:

New version of the senate health bill leaked. Some updates:
-$45 billion to help fight the opioid crisis
-People will be allowed to use HSAs to pay their premiums
-People will be allowed to use tax credits on low-cost catastrophic plans
-Keeps some, but not all, of the taxes in the ACA
-Creates a fund to pay insurers for covering high-risk individuals

These are things that should be added to ACA, not used to replace it, IMO

Probably not catastrophic plans through, they seem barely a step up from literal junk plans.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
McTurtle knows this bill is hosed.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Ted got his hsas and bare-bones scam plans. He's voting for it.

There were 10 noes last time. How many asked for some of these things?

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
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Capital: A city designated as a legislative seat by the government or some other authority, often the city in which the government is located; otherwise the most important city within a country or a subdivision of it.



aware of dog posted:

New version of the senate health bill leaked. Some updates:
-$45 billion to help fight the opioid crisis
-People will be allowed to use HSAs to pay their premiums
-People will be allowed to use tax credits on low-cost catastrophic plans
-Keeps some, but not all, of the taxes in the ACA
-Creates a fund to pay insurers for covering high-risk individuals

I know it's basically a bullet-point but I read that as "negative forty-five billion dollars". Not sure how that would work, but I know the GOP would try to give negative funding if they could.

goethe.cx
Apr 23, 2014


botany posted:

I don't see the freedom caucus ever being okay with this, tbh.

edit: wait this is the senate bill, I'm a moron.

This is a fair point though, whatever the Senate passes still has to pass the House

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

They will pass it because they don't really care and just want it over with. They were only ever looking for attention.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

business hammocks posted:

They will pass it because they don't really care and just want it over with. They were only ever looking for attention.

Hot take.

aware of dog
Nov 14, 2016

Koyaanisgoatse posted:

This is a fair point though, whatever the Senate passes still has to pass the House

Yeah, I don't think they would allow a bill that keeps any of the ACA taxes, to say nothing of the rest of the bill.

WHOOPS
Nov 6, 2009
Using your HSA to pay premiums seems to completely defeat the purpose of the HSA.

George RR Fartin
Apr 16, 2003




BiggerBoat posted:

This seems to be what they do. Just obfuscation and subterfuge until they've muddied the discussion so much no one really remembers what the gently caress they were talking about in the first place. It's easy to chalk it up to stupidity but I tend to believe it's intentional and designed to exploit the population's overall short attention span and the 24 hour news cycle.

Gish Gallop writ large, essentially.

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Sloober
Apr 1, 2011

botany posted:

I don't see the freedom caucus ever being okay with this, tbh.

edit: wait this is the senate bill, I'm a moron.

It still has to deal with the freedom caucus

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