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Furism posted:I finished this game for the first time a couple of weeks ago. Now I'm level 65 or so and started Adventure Mode. It's fun and I like it but in the Quest for Loot I'm not sure what's more efficient: Adventure Mode or Nephalem Rifts? If youre looking for gear, do the highest grift you can in a reasonable amount of time (5-8 min)
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Furism posted:I finished this game for the first time a couple of weeks ago. Now I'm level 65 or so and started Adventure Mode. It's fun and I like it but in the Quest for Loot I'm not sure what's more efficient: Adventure Mode or Nephalem Rifts? Get to level 70 in adventure mode running the highest difficulty of rifts you can clear at a good speed without dying. Sets don't start dropping until lvl 70 in T1+. Get your Kanai's cube and start doing low level GRs to get your legendary gems. Then you can alternate do rifts, GRs, and bounties when you get bored/need specific materials.
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Jul 13, 2017 14:48
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Don't do bounties anymore in my opinion, the weekly challenge rift is good enough, plus rifts for everything else. Greater Rifts are for legendary gem and paragon leveling.
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Jul 13, 2017 14:54
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You'll still need to do a round or two of bounties each season, but since they made them all bonus bounties all the time I've noticed that I actually enjoy doing them.
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Jul 13, 2017 14:58
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I said come in! posted:Don't do bounties anymore in my opinion, the weekly challenge rift is good enough, plus rifts for everything else. Greater Rifts are for legendary gem and paragon leveling. Wait does the challenge rift give the bounty crafting mats or something? I assume you still have to mindlessly run A1 caches for any build that wants a RoRG though.
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Jul 13, 2017 15:09
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Hauki posted:Wait does the challenge rift give the bounty crafting mats or something? I assume you still have to mindlessly run A1 caches for any build that wants a RoRG though. It does, yeah. So run it once per week for the reward, then only run the bounties for the specific drops you need like RRoG
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Jul 13, 2017 15:25
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It resets every Monday at 5pm ET. Next week's may be better to save until after the season starts so that you can claim the mats/shards for your seasonal character. It will likely require you to run a solo GR, as the current requirements do, so you can probably do it right after your solo GR20 for the last Haedrig's Gift pieces for some bonus gambling shards, gold, and of course, some extra bounty mats to cube stuff.
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Jul 13, 2017 15:30
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Thanks for the tips guys!Guilty posted:If youre looking for gear, do the highest grift you can in a reasonable amount of time (5-8 min) For now I can do Nephelem Rifts in Expert Mode with no problem - I barely, if ever, have to use a potion. It just takes too long to kill enemies while at the same time never be in any real danger. It takes me about 20 minutes to clear a NR. Are you saying that I should decrease the difficulty until it takes me 5-8 mins ?
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Jul 13, 2017 15:44
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I only started playing again recently so honest question, do people not use the reforge legendary recipe? It seemed to me like the faster way to get a better version of things that don't drop often but y'all talk like eight (?) bounty mats a week is enough.
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Jul 13, 2017 15:55
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Yeah but at level 70 you should very quickly be able to get out of Expert and into Torment+ with only a couple pieces of gear, mostly from weapons as that's where most of your damage comes from. The shards you've been getting from rift bosses, hold onto those and gamble for some quick legendaries once you reach max level. You didn't mention what class you were, but offhands for Wiz + Necro + WD + Cru + DH are a very nice power boost for a fresh 70.Internet Friend posted:I only started playing again recently so honest question, do people not use the reforge legendary recipe? It seemed to me like the faster way to get a better version of things that don't drop often but y'all talk like eight (?) bounty mats a week is enough. It's good, and when you start maxing out your character, the most reliable way of upgrading.
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Furism posted:Thanks for the tips guys! Yeah you don't want to waste much time killing mobs unless you are pushing greater rifts. Keep in mind that even though your difficulty is low which means you won't have a good chance of a legendary will drop. Eventually you will. And with blood shards it kinda speeds up the process a bit. Once you get a good set of legendaries, it won't be long until you start doing torment farming, and eventually TX-TXIII
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Jul 13, 2017 15:57
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Furism posted:Thanks for the tips guys! Just get to 70 as fast as you can. Sounds like those rifts take too long so I would drop down one. Expert is usually the sweet spot for leveling to 70 but if you don't have the items for it (check vendors and craft recipes to upgrade to a better weapon) then it can be a slog. There's a huge jump in weapon damage for level 70 items and you should be able to jump into T1 fairly quick then. If you're playing PC, post your character and build from battle.net and people can give specific recommendations.
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Jul 13, 2017 16:07
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Anyone ok with pulling me through some higher torment rifts for db and set items? I can poo poo up chat in return.
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Jul 13, 2017 16:29
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I don't know if I'll be playing this weekend or not yet, but I generally broadcast in LLJK for leech spots when I am not in a full group and a few others do as well. Only applies to PC-NA.
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Jul 13, 2017 16:35
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Alright. I'm on shiftwork and have my 3 day this weekend and switch to nights. One I gear up I'll run anyone anytime. That poo poo is always fun for me.
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Jul 13, 2017 16:37
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exquisite tea posted:Having taken all the most popular Necro builds into GR80+ now I think Trag'ouls with pets is probably my favorite. It clears fast, it's pretty sturdy once you get on a roll, and it satisfies the feeling of swarming the screen with skeletons. I also like that you're not relegated to becoming a 2-minute wonder or relying on the Decrepify belt, and it's actually pretty novel to stack Life % instead of CDR for a change. Once everything is going I have something like 3.5mil health. Its major weakness, like all other Necro sets really, is that you're ridiculously weak before you get a good Devour + Bone Armor + health globe stack rolling and it's easy to get stuck in an endless loop of pain if you die even once against a tough elite pack. What build is that? Sounds right up my alley.
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Jul 13, 2017 16:49
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Is there any way to use the cube to make a Legendary provide a Set bonus, or are all builds built around a Set? Currently running Pestilence on my necro with a flesh golem that drops corpses. Pretty awesome with Teeth. I'm considering going back to using Nagelring plus a Nagelring in the cube. Those little suicide guys put out some damage.
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Jul 13, 2017 16:54
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Hakarne posted:What build is that? Sounds right up my alley. There are quite a few variants, some of which also incorporate LotD + Corpse Lance, but I mostly follow this setup, replacing Dark Mending with Final Service, Reaper's Wraps instead of APDs, the max health % rune for Devour, and runing Frozen Skellies for speed farming. Roll everything for Life % where you would normally roll CDR.
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Jul 13, 2017 16:58
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What's the most ridiculous amount of pets you can spawn in with a necro via skills, gear and cube? I don't care about pushing or even farming t13, I just want to get retarded.
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Jul 13, 2017 16:59
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I believe 28 is the max (1 golem, 7 skeletons, 10 mages, 10 revives), unless you count simulacrum as a pet. Of the 28, only 8 are permanent (golem and skeletons) and the other 20 only last a few seconds (6-8 for mages and 10-15 for revives, depending on the runes selected) without counting the one supporting item and passive that extend it by a few seconds.
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Jul 13, 2017 17:12
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Nagelring, the amulet that summons skeletons after a massacre, and that amulet also in the cube, the ring that has 2 skeleton mages per cast, skeleton skill, golem skill, revive, follower. 45 in all, I think.
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Ynglaur posted:Nagelring, the amulet that summons skeletons after a massacre, and that amulet also in the cube, the ring that has 2 skeleton mages per cast, skeleton skill, golem skill, revive, follower. 45 in all, I think. Most of those aren't pets though, but if you just want to spawn a bunch of stuff that does almost no damage, but has a visual presence, then sure. Might as well include your gold-gathering "pet", corpses, minions spawned from follower's items, and your necro's shadow if that's the goal.
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Jul 13, 2017 17:22
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Is there a guide to the cube? I just came back last season and didn't get much of an explanation from my friend aside from the pulling powers out of legendaries.
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^burtle posted:Is there a guide to the cube? I just came back last season and didn't get much of an explanation from my friend aside from the pulling powers out of legendaries. https://us.battle.net/d3/en/game/guide/items/kanais-cube
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Jul 13, 2017 17:25
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Can you only get the cosmetic pets in season?
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DrSeRRoD posted:Most of those aren't pets though, but if you just want to spawn a bunch of stuff that does almost no damage, but has a visual presence, then sure. Might as well include your gold-gathering "pet", corpses, minions spawned from follower's items, and your necro's shadow if that's the goal. Was just trying to be helpful...
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Thom Yorke raps posted:Can you only get the cosmetic pets in season? There are season-specific pets tied to the journey every 3 seasons or so (there's an emerald dragon for Season 11), but there are 19 you can get from Menagerist Goblins and 1 other from a rare mob, all of which are not tied to seasons or playing/purchasing other games. Ynglaur posted:Was just trying to be helpful... It's cool.  I just made the comment to make sure they didn't have the expectation that Necro can have 40+ pets based on what they read here, buy the pack, and then realize that it wasn't the case.
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You can get pets from mobs and goblins?
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Ynglaur posted:Nagelring, the amulet that summons skeletons after a massacre, and that amulet also in the cube Having a legendary effect in the cube and also on a piece of gear you have equipped is redundant, they don't stack. It just uses the one from the cube and ignores the one on your equipped item.
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Jul 13, 2017 18:09
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Klauser posted:Having a legendary effect in the cube and also on a piece of gear you have equipped is redundant, they don't stack. It just uses the one from the cube and ignores the one on your equipped item.
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Jul 13, 2017 18:53
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Vaxo clones don't technically count as "pets," they function similarly to Mirror Image or Grin Reaper where they perform a certain fraction of your own sheet damage. Not like it matters!
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Ynglaur posted:You can get pets from mobs and goblins? Only Menagerist Goblins, which are "pet goblins" that drop 1 unique pet each time you kill them, until you have all 19. The only mob that can drop a pet (as far as I can recall) is Ravi Liywhite. Ravi is a rare spawn that can be found in The Weeping Hollows zone and drops Liv Moore.
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DrSeRRoD posted:There are season-specific pets tied to the journey every 3 seasons or so Didn't know this. What tier of the season journey is it usually tied to?
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Jul 13, 2017 20:08
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What happened with people getting legendary gems to 138 or something and blizzard rolled it back? I missed the whole story of what this was.
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Larrymer posted:Didn't know this. What tier of the season journey is it usually tied to? Usually Chapter 4 gives you the first portrait frame, the final piece of Haedrig's Gift, and then the "fun" reward, which is supposed to cycle between Pet, Wings, and Pennant over the seasons.
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exquisite tea posted:Having taken all the most popular Necro builds into GR80+ now I think Trag'ouls with pets is probably my favorite. It clears fast, it's pretty sturdy once you get on a roll, and it satisfies the feeling of swarming the screen with skeletons. I also like that you're not relegated to becoming a 2-minute wonder or relying on the Decrepify belt, and it's actually pretty novel to stack Life % instead of CDR for a change. Once everything is going I have something like 3.5mil health. Its major weakness, like all other Necro sets really, is that you're ridiculously weak before you get a good Devour + Bone Armor + health globe stack rolling and it's easy to get stuck in an endless loop of pain if you die even once against a tough elite pack. I just started messing around with a variant of this today, and I'm enjoying it. I probably can't push much past the early 70s until I get a Tasker/Theo though 
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How do they nerf Inarius but leave this gimmicky tragoul high level build ? I like smashing buttons as much as anyone else but good grief it's boring casting decrepify and waiting for cooldowns.
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I think no one was touching Trag until they nerfed the Inarius proc coefficient. Even though lots of those guys are pushing with rank 120-132 gems and paragon 3-4k, there's still time for them to smash down a few more sets/builds before Season 11.
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I see no reason why they would touch Trag'oul pets. This isn't some unintended coefficient giving undue weight to some gimmicky gem proc, it's an inventive combination of abilities with items that form a cohesive and fun build.
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Also big streamers are still using Mirinae for speed farming with Inarius. It's not worthless, it's just not obviously broken anymore. REMOVE BANE OF THE TRAPPED FROM THE GAME BLIZZ p&Ty
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