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Rainuwastaken posted:Yoshida already said in an interview that they're not opening up until 4.1 at least. Sucks, but such is life. Thank goodness, I need time to gather gil again.
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Rhonne posted:I think part of the pacing issues were caused by you doing half of the Fringes and Peaks at the start, then doing 3 whole zones in the east, then come back and finish off the other half of those first two zones as well as the Lochs. 
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It's interesting that at this point we've defeated and killed what would be the end boss for a normal FF game on four separate occasions (eight if you did the raids), and there are still people left in the setting that are like "yeah, but I think those guys lacked gumption  "It be like if at the end of the first season of G.I. Joe Cobra gets wiped out and each subsequent season has them fighting a new para-military group "  no really, this plan to take over the world will totally work out!"
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Captain Oblivious posted:Yoshis bard embellishes the poo poo out of our exploits is my favorite framing device for difficulties. Poop Collector: Extreme? I am kind of surprised that people focus so much on that quest in Azim Steppes though. This is at least the fourth or fifth time the WoL has been tasked with picking literal poo poo up off the ground, it's practically our hobby at this point. Thundarr fucked around with this message at 17:56 on Jul 13, 2017 |
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I wish that every time Grynewaht showed up and yelled about you being his archnemesis or whatever, you had a dialogue option to say "who are you?"
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SirPhoebos posted:It's interesting that at this point we've defeated and killed what would be the end boss for a normal FF game on four separate occasions (eight if you did the raids), and there are still people left in the setting that are like "yeah, but I think those guys lacked gumption I think the thing people forget is that the narrative does not support the idea that any of those fights were easy. Yes, you've triumphed time and again but many times you had help (Hydaelyn literally directly saving your rear end, Hraesvelgrs eye..) and you HAVE been defeated (Zenos).
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Thundarr posted:I am kind of surprised that people focus so much on that quest in Azim Steppes though. This is at least the fourth or fifth time the WoL has been tasked with picking literal poo poo up off the ground, it's practically our hobby at this point. I think it has to do with how this expansion treats the WoL in general. At the start of HW, we had basically nothing, and spent the entire 3.0 patch proving ourselves to the Ishgardians. At the start of SB, everybody already knows that we're an unstoppable hero figure, and they treat us as such. When the MSQ is constantly mentioning how you saved X NPC years ago, or that they can just toss you at the latest evil god to spring up like it's no big deal, having to go collect poop can give you a bit of whiplash. But the Xaela are cool and I wanted to help them anyway, so it's no big deal.
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Fister Roboto posted:I wish that every time Grynewaht showed up and yelled about you being his archnemesis or whatever, you had a dialogue option to say "who are you?" He also makes the cutest angry little minipet.
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ImpAtom posted:Then presumably we're going to fight Larry, Moe and Curly followed by Wrexsoul in order to help Hein save Kaien's soul. Doma Castle (Hard)
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Fister Roboto posted:I wish that every time Grynewaht showed up and yelled about you being his archnemesis or whatever, you had a dialogue option to say "who are you?" 1. *slams fist into hand, nods* 2. *shrug*
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I'm getting back into AST again and I want to make sure I understand how to use the cards correctly. Without getting into the nuances of royal road, my general strategy is: Balance: Give it to the highest performing DPS Arrow: Give it to the highest performing DPS Spear: Burn it, I have no idea what this card is good for Spire: Give it to a physical DPS on a big pull, or a recently-rezzed party member who needs their TP back, otherwise burn it if nobody needs TP Bole: Give it to a caster who's running out of MP, otherwise burn it Ewer: Give it to the tank so they take less damage and I can dps more Am I way off on any of that? I think arrow & spear are the ones I'm fuzziest on the proper use of.
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Ainsley McTree posted:I'm getting back into AST again and I want to make sure I understand how to use the cards correctly. Without getting into the nuances of royal road, my general strategy is: You have Bole & Ewer backwards, but yeah.
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Ainsley McTree posted:I'm getting back into AST again and I want to make sure I understand how to use the cards correctly. Without getting into the nuances of royal road, my general strategy is: Balance: Hella Errything Else: Throw it on the ground
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Ainsley McTree posted:I'm getting back into AST again and I want to make sure I understand how to use the cards correctly. Without getting into the nuances of royal road, my general strategy is: You should Royal Road: Ewer and Spire. You should Minor Arcana: Arrow, Spear, Bole (and Ewer or Spire if already Royal Roaded) You should Cast: Balance
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Always give ewers to bards for more foe req juice.
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Give your Arrows to Ninjas. I used to enjoy giving Ewers to BLMs before they changed the regen on it.
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You should also consider giving Ewers to PLDs who are using their spell Holy Spirit often. It's their highest potency attack, so giving a good PLD extra mp will let them use it more.
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4 mans: Balance: give it to the best dps Arrow: give it to the best dps, but maybe not to someone already running dry on tp, but R O Y A L R O A D if you have balance stocked Bole: give it to the tank if they're pulling big, otherwise R O Y A L R O A D Spear: R O Y A L R O A D Spire: Minor Arcana. Ewer: Give it to yourself, so you can Gravity more. 8 mans: Balance: hold for Expanded Royal Road Arrow: use if you have Expanded RR, otherwise reroll/minor arcana Bole: reroll/minor arcana Spear: reroll/minor arcana Spire: R O Y A L R O A D Ewer: Give it to yourself if you've had to raise like 10 people and are on fumes, otherwise R O Y A L R O A D
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seriously, especially with sleeve draw in the mix, don't keep throwing away arrows while fishing for balances if you already have an expanded royal road
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Wacky Delly posted:You have Bole & Ewer backwards, but yeah. Whoops. I swear I knew that, I mostly just identify them as "the green one" and "the blue one" and got the names mixed up. It does seem like most of AST is holding out for balance cards; I was just wondering if the other cards had pro uses as well that weren't obvious (they really ought to do something about spear)
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don't ever loving royal road a ewer or spire in 4-man content, jeez louise
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whenever I see the ewer icon pop up on my entire party in a 4-man i always feel bad for the AST because i know they're weeping in embarrassment
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Reiterpallasch posted:don't ever loving royal road a ewer or spire in 4-man content, jeez louise Uh. Wrong. And why would you say that? You could have one DPS doing 20% more damage or two DPS, a tank, and a healer doing 10% more damage. The latter seems far better.
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Tenik posted:What you want is probably /hudlayout X,*snip* something similar to what Galaga Galaxian posted yesterday. Similar, but a lot better! I think I'm going to have to incorporate this. Thanks.
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Mordiceius posted:Uh. Wrong. And why would you say that? You could have one DPS doing 20% more damage or two DPS, a tank, and a healer doing 10% more damage. The latter seems far better. time dilation
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also, generally, one of your dps will be doing more damage
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also the choice isn't expanded-or-nothing, it's expanded-or-empowererd/extended
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Tenik posted:You should also consider giving Ewers to PLDs who are using their spell Holy Spirit often. It's their highest potency attack, so giving a good PLD extra mp will let them use it more. Extra MP doesn't really translate to more DPS for paladins because their rotation is already pretty tight. I think at most you can get a single extra HS outside of your magic phase before you start losing DPS due to your DOT falling off.
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I like ASTs who Spire me in four mans because I have no faith that the other DPS will either Goad me or participate in AoEing.
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also, a stocked expansion can only really be used effectively on balance, but empowered/extended bole and ewer are legit as hell in large pulls
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for the same reason, holding out for expanded balance in 4-mans causes you to use sleeve draw incredibly inefficiently
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furthermore, there's a rhythm to many classes' aoe phases, if you're paying attention to what your dps are doing you can do things like catch a monk with a solo balance immediately as they go into their perfect balance / rockbreaker phase
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in conclusion, ast card use is a land of many contrasts
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Ainsley McTree posted:I'm getting back into AST again and I want to make sure I understand how to use the cards correctly. Without getting into the nuances of royal road, my general strategy is: Spears easy to understand; it decreases long cd skills. No, not intrinsically, only skills that are cast after you spear someone. So to make it work all you need to do is be in a chat with another person and explain to them what spear is and then they tell you their stuff is currently on cd so you have to wait until they tell you to use it and then you spear them and then they use their stuff and now that 120 second cd skill is a 96 second cd skill that will probably come off cooldown on the exact dungeon mob it would've come off cooldown on anyways and all that coordination led to nothing good job moron. Mordiceius posted:Uh. Wrong. And why would you say that? You could have one DPS doing 20% more damage or two DPS, a tank, and a healer doing 10% more damage. The latter seems far better. You're comparing a royalroaded card to a non-royalroaded card here FYI.
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I've had more than one warrior profusely thank me for giving them a spire and after I started leveling one in dungeons I can totally see why. No embarrassment in ewers unless that's all I'm getting. I can always use more mp for murder. Boles and spears are great RR candidates. More then once I've awarded a dps with a cool glamour an extended balance that I then added Time Dilation and Celestial Opposition as cherries on top. Enjoy those 85 seconds of extra damage, you fashionista. If in doubt arrow yourself for more gravity. That's all I have to say re: cards ty
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I'm sure it'll change when my character gets big enough to use minor arcana but for me as a 52 ast: balance and arrow are saved then I fish for a spire or ewer for royal road. Bole and spear are useless unless there is one dps doing like double the damage of the other. If this is the case then I royal road those instead of spire/ewer and feed the extended/enhanced arrow/balance to the good deeps. Probably the only thing that changes with minor arcana is converting the bad set of cards instead of discarding them.
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TheRagamuffin posted:Doma Castle (Hard) That's gonna be the flooded underwater parts of the castle and the final boss will be Gogo.
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:That's gonna be the flooded underwater parts of the castle and the final boss will be Gogo. Holy poo poo a Gogo boss would rule. I wanna see a 4-man boss that can potentially eat an LB2 and throw it right back at the party.
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TheRagamuffin posted:Holy poo poo a Gogo boss would rule. I wanna see a 4-man boss that can potentially eat an LB2 and throw it right back at the party. I'd welcome a Gogo fight if you had to stand there doing nothing for the first minute or so or he'd loving kill you.
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