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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Case closed. Wait, is this the same Hillary that would've gotten us into WW3 over a no-fly zone in Syria? I'm confused. 
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:*Sigh of relief* And so soon, too. Are we actually going to get away with this?
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Jul 13, 2017 18:25
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:*Sigh of relief* Yeah, me too, geez. Not seeing anyone list all three names in one spot, but it looks like Paul, Portman, and Collins?
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Jul 13, 2017 18:26
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They can't pass their tax cuts without gutting Obamacare, right? So what are they gonna do for the next year?
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Dr. Angela Ziegler posted:It's completely absurd, and the only reason it still exists is nobody wants to be blackballed from the one company you can make a living wrestling in by challenging them. On an aside, weirdly enough Vince doesn't really ever blackballed people. He's more of a "they'll come back and then I'll humiliate them" type of guy. He's done it to a few people over the years, but eventually they end up making up. The only people he really has ever refused to hire were honestly Ultimate Warrior, Jeff Jarrett, and Randy Savage. Warrior for being a headcase, Jarrett for holding Vince up for $150,000 to drop a ttle, and honestly no one's ever sure what the deal was with Savage other then accusations s that he molested Stephanie McMahon when she was a teenager. Savage is dead, Warrior eventually reconciled and then dropped dead a day later, and Jarrett went on to form the world's worst wrestling promotions because he wanted to be champ. That one is a long long tale that involves neo nazis, that dude from the Smashing Pumpkins, a midget masturbating in a trashcan, a bored energy tycoon, a cocaine snorting domestic abuser, a thousand broken guitars and it hasn't drawn a dime.
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Spiritus Nox posted:And so soon, too. Keep your fingers crossed and hope the bombers keep flying away and don't turn to take another pass at the target.
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Mustached Demon posted:Maybe we'll get Snowpiercer. I think Water World is more likely the way things are going.
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eviltastic posted:Yeah, me too, geez. Yes. More likely to follow.
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Jul 13, 2017 18:28
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Even if they don't proceed with this, don't they have another 2 weeks to push through another turd instead? NPR last afternoon made it sound like the Republicans are well aware of what a poo poo storm an inability to repeal obamacare will cause for them not only from their constituents when they go home but also from Trump.
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Demon Of The Fall posted:They can't pass their tax cuts without gutting Obamacare, right? So what are they gonna do for the next year? Same thing they did with the Bush tax cuts. Sunset them after 10 years, throw in some changes to the tax code, claim economic growth, use dynamic scoring, and hope that raising taxes is too politically poisonous in 10 years.
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Quick check in with my unhinged coworkers: Obama allowed Russian Lawyer to bait Trump Jr into collusion therefore Obama should be prosecuted. Is calling a woman "beautiful and fit" sexist? No one knows! But Pence proves that the administration respects women.
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Jul 13, 2017 18:29
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Spiritus Nox posted:And so soon, too. God I hope so. What I'm wondering is, if they keep failing to pass a healthcare bill, how long will they keep trying? The whole strategy was to do that first and then tax cuts... I'd imagine it would be easier for the caucus to agree on a tax cut bill, but without the budgetary leeway from an ACA repeal, they probably won't be able to get much out of it.
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Jul 13, 2017 18:29
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Spiritus Nox posted:And so soon, too. I'd say play it safe and pester your senators regardless.
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Demon Of The Fall posted:They can't pass their tax cuts without gutting Obamacare, right? So what are they gonna do for the next year? They can pass some income tax cuts if they include a sunset provision, like they had to do with the Bush tax cuts. They were hoping to make them permanent to force a future Dem congress to have to act affirmatively to raise taxes rather just let them passively sunset. Corporate tax cuts are problematic though because the experts believe that its not possible to pass a significant corporate tax cut that won't have an impact beyond 10 years, even if they sunset after only 4 or 5 years.
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Office Pig posted:I'd say play it safe and pester your senators regardless. This. Don't assume it's safe. Keep on pushing.
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Both of these dogs are dead now.
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ZorajitZorajit posted:Quick check in with my unhinged coworkers: Can you have them try to explain why Obama was setting up this bait but didn't spring the trap until 7 months after Trump was sworn in to office?
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Office Pig posted:I'd say play it safe and pester your senators regardless. I mean I will, but also my senators are Cornyn and Cruz so I have much less leverage than I would like. 
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DrNutt posted:Both of these dogs are dead now. No, the one on the left is currently filming a TV show.
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TARDISman posted:Isn't Heller like... the most vulnerable Republican in the Senate? How could he be this stupid? He's probably being told that there will be zero money for his campaign if he doesn't deliver.
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ReidRansom posted:Also, here's some strong words from Trey Gowdy, of all people He knows on some level that it's just hurting the party and that if Mueller comes to Congress saying "here's a list of people who and the charges that we'd like to bring against them" the GOP is going to be in a hellish position since the non-MAGA elements of the GOP and its voters are going to want action taken at that point. skylined! posted:our nations top attorney This motherfucker needs to spend the rest of his (what would be a very short) life as part of the genpop in a private prison.
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Spiritus Nox posted:I mean I will, but also my senators are Cornyn and Cruz so I have much less leverage than I would like. Maybe one day our good economy will bring in enough reasonable people to get some Democrats representing us.
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Demon Of The Fall posted:They can't pass their tax cuts without gutting Obamacare, right? So what are they gonna do for the next year? Continue to sabotage the aca until it truly is literal garbage
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Jul 13, 2017 18:32
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Spiritus Nox posted:I mean I will, but also my senators are Cornyn and Cruz so I have much less leverage than I would like. Oh hey what's up fellow hellbuddy, happy that Abbot is turning the Great poo poo Wastes into a reality and a statement of fact?
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ZorajitZorajit posted:Quick check in with my unhinged coworkers: Obama is a criminal because he didn't invade Russia to save Jr. from himself, checkmate LIEberals
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Collins moving to a harder no. https://twitter.com/SenatorCollins/status/885550308134408192
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reading https://twitter.com/alexis_levinson/status/885551433600430080 in combination with https://twitter.com/byrdinator/status/885513743261741056 has me cautiously hopeful that Collins is more firmly "no" than might appear reading that comment in isolation, and is taking the opportunity to set herself up with a justification.
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The alternative is the obvious "welp, the bullshit numbers we made ourselves are good enough, time to vote for this garbage". If you're calling your senators (please do), also mention this news. Undermining the norm of CBO scoring is bad in and of itself.
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Seems like it's getting easier for them to say no to these revised bills every time. I wonder if they'll try and fail to repeal the same number of times after obama as during his term.
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eviltastic posted:has me cautiously hopeful that Collins is more firmly "no" than might appear reading that comment in isolation, and is taking the opportunity to set herself up with a justification. Collins is also not particularly scared of Trump. She is highly popular, and Maine Republicans are not MAGA robots. For her, supporting the bill could be a career-ender, and she faces almost no consequences for opposing Trump. Things get a little more difficult for Heller, Capito, and Portman though because their GOP base are morons.
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Is there as much disagreement over tax reform? I hope there is. Republicans can't govern.
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Spiritus Nox posted:I mean I will, but also my senators are Cornyn and Cruz so I have much less leverage than I would like. Keep doing it anyway. Mine are Duckworth and Durbin, possibly two of the safest "no's" in the Senate, and I'm still doing it because the pressure needs to stay.
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ZorajitZorajit posted:
"Fit"? What context is this? That a weird thing to say in a non sports/athletic situation . Like since it's Pence, I assume it's "She'll make a good sow for producing wealth transfer devices."
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Rampant Dwickery posted:Keep doing it anyway. Mine are Duckworth and Durbin, possibly two of the safest "no's" in the Senate, and I'm still doing it because the pressure needs to stay. That would be what the "I mean I will" in that post would imply, yes.
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Spiritus Nox posted:And so soon, too. They have another year and a half to pass some kind of repeal, so... the answer is... "maybe?" got'em
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Nonsense posted:Is there as much disagreement over tax reform? I hope there is. Republicans can't govern. We don't know. I have to believe that they can come together for at least some kind of tax cut, because if you are a Republican who is not in favor of any kind of tax cut at all, then you got lost on your way to registering for the Democratic party.
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empty whippet box posted:Seems like it's getting easier for them to say no to these revised bills every time. I wonder if they'll try and fail to repeal the same number of times after obama as during his term. Obamacare had some 140 amendments to it before it passed, but it was also discussed on a group forum. Having them run back to their darkened room to sketch out new details is going to bite them hard imo.
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Dogwood Fleet posted:Good to see that drug users are more important than disabled children. Drug addiction is a medical condition so I think they should get care too. But yeah it's mostly because it's a hotbutton "WHITE PEOPLE PROBLEM" and the filthy poors deserve it. Or people using brown people drugs.
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