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surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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goddamnedtwisto posted:

Any idea how much that would cost? i'm guessing "way too much for a toy" just because of the sheer amount of labour required, but man i'd love to have an enigma machine

i'm kinda curious too, there's an email at the bottom to inquire but i don't want to bother the dude just to do some tire kicking

i'd have to assume it's well into the four figgies and tbh five wouldn't surprise me

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surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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you can get digital kits for a more reasonable price:
http://www.stgeotronics.com/Enigma-Replica_c3.htm

not the same as old school analog tech, but i'd still argue it's a neat demo of many principles

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

surebet posted:

you can get digital kits for a more reasonable price:
http://www.stgeotronics.com/Enigma-Replica_c3.htm

not the same as old school analog tech, but i'd still argue it's a neat demo of many principles

yeah but i want that ka-chunk of pressing the button and seeing the rotors rotate and poo poo

then work out a way of using it as a keyboard to get one up on the mechanical keyboard shitbirds

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






I went to this crypto museum last year and they had a large collection of enigmas and we weren't tuoposed to touch it but I couldn't help myself. It's a very satisfying machine.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

goddamnedtwisto posted:

yeah but i want that ka-chunk of pressing the button and seeing the rotors rotate and poo poo

then work out a way of using it as a keyboard to get one up on the mechanical keyboard shitbirds

just connect the output lamps to keyboard switches

then learn to type so your inputs map to the correct output letters

easy

mrmcd
Feb 22, 2003

Pictured: The only good cop (a fictional one).

The poor can just buy a $200 shovelware PC and then wipe it and install Debian.
:goonsay:

Bunni-kat
May 25, 2010

Service Desk B-b-bunny...
How can-ca-caaaaan I
help-p-p-p you?

mrmcd posted:

The poor can just buy a $200 shovelware PC and then wipe it and install Debian.
:goonsay:

I thought the point was to increase security? An idiot with Debian is pretty hosed.

ThePeavstenator
Dec 18, 2012

:burger::burger::burger::burger::burger:

Establish the Buns

:burger::burger::burger::burger::burger:
In my college Real-Time Systems class we did projects on BeagleBones running Debian. One of my classmates decided that he was too smart to use such a poo poo OS even though it was distributed by the professor and required for the class. Instead he decided to use Gentoo.

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

ThePeavstenator posted:

In my college Real-Time Systems class we did projects on BeagleBones running Debian. One of my classmates decided that he was too smart to use such a poo poo OS even though it was distributed by the professor and required for the class. Instead he decided to use Gentoo.

he should've used yocto

that way he'd still be loving around with bitbake recipes

ThePeavstenator
Dec 18, 2012

:burger::burger::burger::burger::burger:

Establish the Buns

:burger::burger::burger::burger::burger:
Every lab was just him taking 2 of the 3 hours the professor was there to try and fix his poo poo that never worked.

camoseven
Dec 30, 2005

RODOLPHONE RINGIN'

spankmeister posted:

I went to this crypto museum last year and they had a large collection of enigmas and we weren't tuoposed to touch it but I couldn't help myself. It's a very satisfying machine.

The National Cryptologic Museum on the NSA campus is free and open to the public and has an Enigma machine that they encourage you to play with. I went a few months ago and it was pretty cool. I also bought some NSA branded socks for some reason.

RISCy Business
Jun 17, 2015

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Fun Shoe
if you use gentoo you have a serious mental illness and should get help

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




RISCy Business posted:

if you use gentoo you have a serious mental illness and should get help

friiend dont let friends use gentoo. *switches from starch linux to hurd*

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




oh whats that, new nixos update?

mrmcd
Feb 22, 2003

Pictured: The only good cop (a fictional one).

My teammate was a hurd maintainer for a while until he was banned from the project by RMS for thoughtcrime or something. He's a target rich tolling environment.

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

camoseven posted:

I also bought some NSA branded socks for some reason.

might wanna give 'em about 20 seconds in the microwave just to be on the safe side

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

spankmeister posted:

I went to this crypto museum last year and they had a large collection of enigmas and we weren't tuoposed to touch it but I couldn't help myself. It's a very satisfying machine.

I dunno if it's still a thing but a few years ago the Bletchley Park crypto myuseum was selling fully functional Enigma replicas in kit form that you built yourself.
If you google around maybe they're still doing it.

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






They do but they're electronic not mechanical iirc

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009
Ah that's a pity.
I bet some insane person makes functional mechanical replicas for people with a few grand to spare.

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

let me know if you find them!

Bunni-kat
May 25, 2010

Service Desk B-b-bunny...
How can-ca-caaaaan I
help-p-p-p you?

Subjunctive posted:

let me know if you find them!

I found this somewhere... http://enigmamuseum.com/replica/

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

RISCy Business posted:

if you use gentoo you have a serious mental illness and should get help

my friend moved from using gentoo to plan9, what kind of mental illness is that

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

ate all the Oreos posted:

just connect the output lamps to keyboard switches

then learn to type so your inputs map to the correct output letters

easy

webcam reading the output lights connected to an emulated bombe that decrypts it and puts it out over usb

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨


"price upon request", hmm hmm

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

ate all the Oreos posted:

my friend moved from using gentoo to plan9, what kind of mental illness is that

He will probably become a serial murderer.

power botton
Nov 2, 2011

plan9 owns but lmao @ using it for real

Babies Getting Rabies
Apr 21, 2007

Sugartime Jones

RISCy Business posted:

if you use gentoo you have a serious mental illness and should get help

a friend of mine used to run gentoo way back when and he kept destroying hard drives because he tried to maintain a bleeding edge system that was more or less always on because it was always recompiling half the system

thebigcow
Jan 3, 2001

Bully!
Windows driver chat: remember when FTDI made a driver update that bricked knock off chips and got Microsoft to push it with Windows Update?

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
yeah that ruled

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum
they weren't really bricked, you could go into a linux and undo it

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

quote:

Additionally, considering the nature of supply chains, it is entirely conceivable that companies thinking they have purchased legitimate parts are now being impacted as well. With the difficulty of ensuring that components in a supply chain are genuine, this action by FTDI serves as a disincentive to use any part labeled FTDI in the future.

can't have a counterfeiting problem if nobody wants to buy your gear in the first place

mrmcd
Feb 22, 2003

Pictured: The only good cop (a fictional one).

https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=784630


quote:

The comic book backend in evince 3.24.0 is vulnerable to a command injection bug that can be used to execute arbitrary commands when a cbt file is opened

Et tu, comic books? :negative:

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

im the cock and ball torture file extension

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

"vulnerable comic book backend" is my new fetish

Deep Dish Fuckfest
Sep 6, 2006

Advanced
Computer Touching


Toilet Rascal

ratbert90 posted:

He will probably become a serial murderer.

"become"

Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl

mrmcd posted:

My teammate was a hurd maintainer for a while until he was banned from the project by RMS for thoughtcrime or something. He's a target rich tolling environment.

I want to know more about this

mrmcd
Feb 22, 2003

Pictured: The only good cop (a fictional one).

Farmer Crack-rear end posted:

I want to know more about this

AFAIK he eventually was convinced the project would never work and everyone would rather argue about GNU license purity while the Linux kernel ate the world. He still occasionally gets emails from internet crazies trying to get him to join a discussion list for some stupid nerd slap fight.

I don't follow the decades long hurd debacle so I don't know any juicy technical gossip.

RISCy Business
Jun 17, 2015

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Fun Shoe
didn't hurd get usb support last year

BattleMaster
Aug 14, 2000

quote:

It's time [to] explain the meaning of "Hurd". "Hurd" stands for "Hird of Unix-Replacing Daemons". And, then, "Hird" stands for "Hurd of Interfaces Representing Depth". We have here, to my knowledge, the first software to be named by a pair of mutually recursive acronyms.
— Thomas (then Michael) Bushnell

for some reason my eye twitched while reading that

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anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum
making the first word in a recursive acronym the acronym seems like both cheating and a misunderstanding of what recursive means

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