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Yossarian-22 posted:I don't like greenwald, but he's just saying that evidence of collusion hasn't reached the point of showing outright collaboration/collusion on the DNC/Podesta hacks. I don't see how that's controversial It's less "Where is the evidence?" (which Greenwald has been consistent about, though ignoring the Reality Winner stuff and ignoring the Don Jr emails) and more "I don't think trading for information from a foreign power is illegal" and "Did you hear about Hillary Clinton's totally real and totally illegal Ukrainian collusion?" and "UKRAINIAN MEDDLING"
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Office Pig posted:i'm actually kind of curious, is there any evidence supporting the idea that the kremlin would support a disruptive left-wing populist movement in other countries? because i haven't seen a whole lot of evidence in favor of that idea... or any really. Russia is happy to see any political party take power if it believes in more détente with Russia. Macron accused almost all of the other French candidates of being Russian assets
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Lastgirl posted:"It's treason." until you can prove to me that russia and the united states are different countries i dont want to hear it
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Al! posted:until you can prove to me that russia and the united states are different countries i dont want to hear it United States of America United Soviet Socialist Republics Hummm Are they brothers?
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Joementum posted:fun fact: that wasn't actually treason It kinda was, espionage can be treason if it hurts your country, but since it all leads to Trump I will allow the assumption it helped MAGA and was not treason. Same reason Trump Jr. is a hero for stopping Hillary.
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zen death robot posted:Zuck is gonna pull a Perot and run on his own party or something i'd very much like zuck to disappear into a black hole and only be allowed to materialize on earth for a few minutes every couple of years. him and elon can take a rocket together, sirens of titan style
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Sir Tonk posted:wtf why did @comfortablysmug block me the good old panel mom's. when Fox pulls on the panel of mom's, you know they are running low on options.
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Al! posted:until you can prove to me that russia and the united states are different countries i dont want to hear it I mean, who can say what lines are on a map right? They're imaginary c'mon still gotta build that wall! 
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lol the intercept purposely hosed over their source
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Office Pig posted:i'm actually kind of curious, is there any evidence supporting the idea that the kremlin would support a disruptive left-wing populist movement in other countries? because i haven't seen a whole lot of evidence in favor of that idea... or any really. No but have you read this 10,000 word essay that has nothing to do with anything? It's well versed in Leninist Marxist Proletarian dialectic and blah blah blah a bunch of meaningless horse poo poo. You could probably make the argument that Russia, on some level, has supported the Rojova project in Syria but they'd throw them all to the wolves if it meant cementing a friendly fascist government into power. Even if you made that argument the USA has given an honestly stunning amount of support to the SDF that dwarfs any contribution by the Russians.
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Nichael posted:lol "asset" is def going a little too far, he just has the same blind spot for forces subversive of US hegemony that leads to the occasional leftist naively defending Chavismo and Assad while purporting to be worldly and informed.
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mormonpartyboat posted:https://twitter.com/JaredRizzi/status/885576981076729857 "good boy, good kid" = 39 year old man with five loving kids lmao
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new kind of cat posted:"good boy, good kid" = 39 year old man with five loving kids lmao the unabsolute boy
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logikv9 posted:lol the intercept purposely hosed over their source #standwithreality
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ShutteredIn posted:Pretty sure trump actually thinks that all Chinese people are super old Trump is George Costanzas mother on Seinfeld.
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mormonpartyboat posted:ancient chinese architectural secret 
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SKULL.GIF posted:United States of America In a very real way, yes. Russian civilization is like a cousin to Western civilization and both our history and fates are interlinked.
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Trump wall gonna have windows so what. They can use HUD housing money and make it affordable housing.
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Brother Friendship posted:Got any books or links to help explore that thought process? I know that the presidential election immediately following the Civil War was gamed and let the South off the hook for setting the country on fire but there ends my knowledge. the southern aristocracy at the end of the civil war should have been stripped of their lands and assets and new kind of cat has issued a correction as of 20:45 on Jul 13, 2017 |
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Bernie, Zuck, and Trump run in 2020, bad dems split for Zuck, Trump wins by vote in House even though he got 39% of the vote chaos reigns
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zen death robot posted:thats why we gotta build the wall, so the boundaries are real trumpian deconstruction of reality as we know it owns
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United States and Republics of TrumPutin.
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new kind of cat posted:the southern aristocracy at the end of the civil war should have been stripped of their lands and assets and, in many cases, probably their lives B-b-b-b-b-but Sherman!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That barbarian!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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SKULL.GIF posted:I really doubt it'll do that it's more likely to work than our current strategy of "do nothing and hope it gets better", tho you're right that it's probably going to do nothing
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Elephanthead posted:It kinda was, espionage can be treason if it hurts your country, but since it all leads to Trump I will allow the assumption it helped MAGA and was not treason. Same reason Trump Jr. is a hero for stopping Hillary. No, it wasn't. Julius and Ethel Rosenberg were charged with and executed for conspiracy to commit espionage, not treason.
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new kind of cat posted:the southern aristocracy at the end of the civil war should have been stripped of their lands and assets and, in many cases, probably their lives yeah the failure of reconstruction was probably the biggest single catastrophe for the internal situation of the United States, apart from not pulling the bandaid on slavery in the first place while drafting the constitution (although admittedly I don't think you do this and keep all 13 colonies in any scenario). we're living with the echoes of that mistake and will be for the foreseeable future.
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Brother Friendship posted:In a very real way, yes. Russian civilization is like a cousin to Western civilization and both our history and fates are interlinked. I've been facetiously saying for years now that the worst thing that could have happened to USA was the collapse of the USSR
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Brother Friendship posted:B-b-b-b-b-but Sherman!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That barbarian!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! no joke, this was a go-to example for a self-described 'putinist' to decry the history of american imperialism really don't know how much farther you can sink than that
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Count how many different frog avatars are in the comments. I got 12.
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