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Fallen Hamprince posted:lmao if ur mad about this at all widely read media doxxing people for being mean online is insanely dystopian, so it makes sense that you're in favor of it
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the bitcoin of weed posted:widely read media doxxing people for being mean online is insanely dystopian, so it makes sense that you're in favor of it
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lmao that's the level of 'abuse' she's complaining about? the worst thing he calls her is a tory
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Bryter posted:lmao that's the level of 'abuse' she's complaining about? the worst thing he calls her is a tory I said this on UKMT but Soubry reporting my local Labour party to the police for harassment because we asked her a question on the street
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MikeCrotch posted:I said this on UKMT but Soubry reporting my local Labour party to the police for harassment because we asked her a question on the street Extremely British. And also a Dril tweet.
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The whole moral panic about abuse is really pissing me off because it completely obscures the actual power relations in play. Quite simply, if you through your speech enact decisions that effect thousands of people or speak from a platform that reaches thousands of people and a subset of those people rightly or wrongly call you a oval office, you have to shoulder at least some of that for getting into a conversation with thousands of people at once. It's really clear a lot of these people aren't actually talking about abuse, they're talking about their own invective (which they often make a living by spewing) finally being answered in kind, or even just critiqued. The problem is most of these cunts are pathologically disingenuous or wholely lacking in the slightest of self-awareness so they can't loving see that if they want to contribute to a discourse they have to let other people speak too.
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TomViolence posted:The whole moral panic about abuse is really pissing me off because it completely obscures the actual power relations in play. Quite simply, if you through your speech enact decisions that effect thousands of people or speak from a platform that reaches thousands of people and a subset of those people rightly or wrongly call you a oval office, you have to shoulder at least some of that for getting into a conversation with thousands of people at once. It's really clear a lot of these people aren't actually talking about abuse, they're talking about their own invective (which they often make a living by spewing) finally being answered in kind, or even just critiqued. The problem is most of these cunts are pathologically disingenuous or wholely lacking in the slightest of self-awareness so they can't loving see that if they want to contribute to a discourse they have to let other people speak too. sums it all up pretty succinctly imo
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the bitcoin of weed posted:widely read media doxxing people for being mean online is insanely dystopian, so it makes sense that you're in favor of it god forbid something bad happen to the mods of the yvette cooper creepshots subreddit lol
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Jul 13, 2017 21:59
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Bryter posted:death to those who dare to post a photo of an MP in a public place Next the bastards'll be photographing the police or the military, where will it end?
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SKULL.GIF posted:bless this mess lmao twitter owns so much
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Bryter posted:death to those who dare to post a photo of an MP in a public place MPs chose to be public figures. That's the distinction here.
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TomViolence posted:
Hope so. But I've had to explain that to people before.
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Jeb! Repetition posted:MPs chose to be public figures. That's the distinction here. Celebrities also choose to be public figures, but the papparatzo are still scum because they make it impossible for celebrities to have a private life separate from their job as a public figure. What's different with politicians is that they've chosen to be political as well as public figures, and their public conduct has political implications which are much more severe than whatever dumb poo poo the Kardashians are up to. Their private lives are politically relevant, and how they conduct themselves has broader class connotations which have an impact on their conduct as a political agent. Public servants should be vulnerable to public scrutiny.
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id have a lot more sympathy for those bearded lads if they hadnt called a female politician a oval office tbh lets leave gendered insults where they belong; in the past!
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Vitamin P posted:id have a lot more sympathy for those bearded lads if they hadnt called a female politician a oval office tbh It's england. it is the past.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Celebrities also choose to be public figures, but the papparatzo are still scum because they make it impossible for celebrities to have a private life separate from their job as a public figure. What's different with politicians is that they've chosen to be political as well as public figures, and their public conduct has political implications which are much more severe than whatever dumb poo poo the Kardashians are up to. Their private lives are politically relevant, and how they conduct themselves has broader class connotations which have an impact on their conduct as a political agent. Public servants should be vulnerable to public scrutiny. those good corbyn boys were doing a public service: the public needed to know what cooper looks like when surreptitiously photographed on public transit for the purpose of online harassment
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Fallen Hamprince posted:those good corbyn boys were doing a public service: the public needed to know what cooper looks like when surreptitiously photographed on public transit for the purpose of online harassment "It's actually a good thing that the Daily Mail doxxed these boys for being so nasty."
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Fallen Hamprince posted:those good corbyn boys were doing a public service: the public needed to know what cooper looks like when surreptitiously photographed on public transit for the purpose of online harassment they took a picture and said mean things? and you're supporting news rags digging up any and all info about them to protect a tory's feelings.... centrism!
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Condiv posted:they took a picture and said mean things? and you're supporting news rags digging up any and all info about them to protect a tory's feelings.... yvette cooper isn't a tory you absolute moron
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much like anime nazis, liberals and conservatives deserve to be abused until they stop being liberals and conservatives
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Fallen Hamprince posted:yvette cooper isn't a tory you absolute moron It's what's on the inside that counts.
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Fallen Hamprince posted:yvette cooper isn't a tory you absolute moron she's a red tory, didn't u know? you literally believe this is reality  
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oval office is not a gendered insult you cunts.
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TomViolence posted:oval office is not a gendered insult you cunts. Part of the amerification of the english language is criticising Australians and English for using what is only a gendered slur in the US.
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Condiv posted:she's a red tory, didn't u know? looks like a buncha the lads to me
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Byolante posted:Part of the amerification of the english language is criticising Australians and English for using what is only a gendered slur in the US. Its as gendered as calling someone a "bitch."
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Fallen Hamprince posted:those good corbyn boys were doing a public service: the public needed to know what cooper looks like when surreptitiously photographed on public transit for the purpose of online harassment Literally no one is saying what they did isn't bad.
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Condiv posted:she's a red tory, didn't u know? In America those would be teamsters.
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Condiv posted:she's a red tory, didn't u know? im the one in the fishnet shirt
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Byolante posted:Part of the amerification of the english language is criticising Australians and English for using what is only a gendered slur in the US. The only people who ever use oval office in Australia are the sort who still very much conform to traditional ideals of masculinity. It's pretty absurd to claim that it isn't a gendered insult. It's almost used exclusively to describe negative traits, even when it's not intended as an insult. We used to use 'fag/human being' in a similar context, and has fallen out of usage for obvious reasons. I imagine its usage is pretty similar over in the UK.
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Tokamak posted:The only people who ever use oval office in Australia are the sort who still very much conform to traditional ideals of masculinity. It's pretty absurd to claim that it isn't a gendered insult. It's almost used exclusively to describe negative traits, even when it's not intended as an insult. We used to use 'fag/human being' in a similar context, and has fallen out of usage for obvious reasons. I imagine its usage is pretty similar over in the UK. This is hilariously wrong and I must assume you either aren't Australian, or in the off chance you are, only socialise with inner city types. Fag and human being are only ever used in a derogatory manner, oval office is neutral in Australian usage and requires context to determine if it was derogatory or not.
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why on earth would anyone trust australians of all people to distinguish appropriate vs derogatory speech theyre like platonically racist
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