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cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




anthonypants posted:

making the first word in a recursive acronym the acronym seems like both cheating and a misunderstanding of what recursive means

r stands for recursive acronym

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leper khan
Dec 28, 2010
Honest to god thinks Half Life 2 is a bad game. But at least he likes Monster Hunter.

anthonypants posted:

making the first word in a recursive acronym the acronym seems like both cheating and a misunderstanding of what recursive means

do /you/ know what recursive means? because the first word being the acronym makes it just as recursive as the last word.

FAT32 SHAMER
Aug 16, 2012



you can call a recursion anywhere inside of a recursive function and it will still be recursive :v:

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum
if i said i wrote a 500-line recursive algorithm and the first line called itself it would be pretty stupid

FAT32 SHAMER
Aug 16, 2012



ok true

Carbon dioxide
Oct 9, 2012

Several weeks ago I got a letter from my housing company, informing me that they had made a new website (subdomain of their main site) with a secure environment where their customers, (tenants), could login to view their personal information and update it online. The letter assured me that the website was double checked by some security company and deemed safe.

However, when I went to sign up, at some point I ended up on their main public-facing website, where they had plopped a copy of the login (username/pass) form on the homepage. Which was http. There was an https version but it was configured wrong, with the security cert only being valid for the other subdomain.

So I immediately sent them an e-mail telling them why putting a password form on a http page is a horrible idea, and giving them some pointers on how to quickly fix/remove it.


To my surprise, the next day they called me to thoroughly thank me for pointing out the problem. They were already working on a fix and thought it would be ready by the end of the day. They also asked me if I wished to get an update on how they were doing a week later. Well, when I checked the site that evening, they already got everything in order.

And, once again to my surprise, today I received a letter from them with another thank you, and a 25 eur gift card attached.

Reading this thread, I was under the impression that most companies are dicks when you point out security problems to them. Apparently there are companies that are Good.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



Carbon dioxide posted:

Several weeks ago I got a letter from my housing company, informing me that they had made a new website (subdomain of their main site) with a secure environment where their customers, (tenants), could login to view their personal information and update it online. The letter assured me that the website was double checked by some security company and deemed safe.

However, when I went to sign up, at some point I ended up on their main public-facing website, where they had plopped a copy of the login (username/pass) form on the homepage. Which was http. There was an https version but it was configured wrong, with the security cert only being valid for the other subdomain.

So I immediately sent them an e-mail telling them why putting a password form on a http page is a horrible idea, and giving them some pointers on how to quickly fix/remove it.


To my surprise, the next day they called me to thoroughly thank me for pointing out the problem. They were already working on a fix and thought it would be ready by the end of the day. They also asked me if I wished to get an update on how they were doing a week later. Well, when I checked the site that evening, they already got everything in order.

And, once again to my surprise, today I received a letter from them with another thank you, and a 25 eur gift card attached.

Reading this thread, I was under the impression that most companies are dicks when you point out security problems to them. Apparently there are companies that are Good.

hosed up if true

just kidding, it's good to see something go right.

ultramiraculous
Nov 12, 2003

"No..."
Grimey Drawer

mrmcd posted:

AFAIK he eventually was convinced the project would never work and everyone would rather argue about GNU license purity while the Linux kernel ate the world

I mean...

E4C85D38
Feb 7, 2010

Doesn't that thing only
hold six rounds...?

camoseven posted:

The National Cryptologic Museum on the NSA campus is free and open to the public and has an Enigma machine that they encourage you to play with. I went a few months ago and it was pretty cool. I also bought some NSA branded socks for some reason.

seconded this place owns

HOWEVER

DO NOT ACCIDENTALLY TAKE THE NSA EMPLOYEES ONLY ENTRANCE WHEN TRYING TO GET THERE EVEN THOUGH ROADS ARE CONFUSING. IT IS NOT A GOOD TIME

but the exhibits are really neat and it even has a reading library of a bunch of old & cool books on related subjects

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



E4C85D38 posted:

seconded this place owns

HOWEVER

DO NOT ACCIDENTALLY TAKE THE NSA EMPLOYEES ONLY ENTRANCE WHEN TRYING TO GET THERE EVEN THOUGH ROADS ARE CONFUSING. IT IS NOT A GOOD TIME

you're busted, dude

ultramiraculous
Nov 12, 2003

"No..."
Grimey Drawer

Midjack posted:

you're busted, dude

I'm sure it's real annoying to have to deal with tourists looking for the museum blocking the entry gate constantly

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



ultramiraculous posted:

I'm sure it's real annoying to have to deal with tourists looking for the museum blocking the entry gate constantly

if it's anything like other government places i've been they just direct the person to the side and threaten them there during rush hours. off peak yeah, they'll surround the car right there at the gate.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Midjack posted:

if it's anything like other government places i've been they just direct the person to the side and threaten them there during rush hours. off peak yeah, they'll surround the car right there at the gate.

protip: you can get through cape canaveral's gate if you go during morning rush hour and hold up something rectangular that kinda sorta looks like a badge at the guard who's just trying to get all the workers through for their morning shifts

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

ratbert90 posted:

He will probably become a serial murderer.

Excuse me, I believe you mean GNU serial murderer

Carbon dioxide posted:

25 eur gift card attached.

I'm guessing you have functional privacy laws and they would have lost a lot more than 25EUR if someone found out.

yoloer420
May 19, 2006

Volmarias posted:

Any person that would actually plug this in is the kind of person who would call it a "web key"

It emulates a keyboard to pop your browser and enter a url. So it isn't a flash drive or whatever.

http://cardserv.com.au/web-key/

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

yoloer420 posted:

It emulates a keyboard to pop your browser and enter a url. So it isn't a flash drive or whatever.

http://cardserv.com.au/web-key/

this is the same concept as a usb rubber ducky. its almost worse than a flash drive

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

The web key is only “readable” and therefore there is no risk of virus transmission.

JewKiller 3000
Nov 28, 2006

by Lowtax

ate all the Oreos posted:

protip: you can get through cape canaveral's gate if you go during morning rush hour and hold up something rectangular that kinda sorta looks like a badge at the guard who's just trying to get all the workers through for their morning shifts

pro-er tip: this definitely will not work at ft meade

A Pinball Wizard
Mar 23, 2005

I know every trick, no freak's gonna beat my hands

College Slice

my bitter bi rival posted:

The web key is only “readable” and therefore there is no risk of virus transmission.

hi im youre bank. pls to inserting this card in your PC computer. dont worry its read only

duTrieux.
Oct 9, 2003

the first usb flash drive i ever bought was 8 mb and was marketed as a "memory key"

Carbon dioxide
Oct 9, 2012

E4C85D38 posted:

seconded this place owns

HOWEVER

DO NOT ACCIDENTALLY TAKE THE NSA EMPLOYEES ONLY ENTRANCE WHEN TRYING TO GET THERE EVEN THOUGH ROADS ARE CONFUSING. IT IS NOT A GOOD TIME

but the exhibits are really neat and it even has a reading library of a bunch of old & cool books on related subjects

On friday afternoon, when the NSA employees are bored, they just jam the GPS signal on campus until some tourists end up at the wrong entrance, so the guards can have some fun harassing them.

ultramiraculous
Nov 12, 2003

"No..."
Grimey Drawer

Carbon dioxide posted:

On friday afternoon, when the NSA employees are bored, they just jam the GPS signal on campus until some tourists end up at the wrong entrance, so the guards can have some fun harassing them.

hey, story for the yokels back home and a morale boost for the boys in blue! no harm, no foul.

ultramiraculous
Nov 12, 2003

"No..."
Grimey Drawer
is it the nsa or some other three-letter agency whose procedure for escorted guests involved some sort of an alert to your presence? i know my mom has mentioned having to be followed around with a flashing light or something so the spooks would know to shut up when she left the conference room to pee.

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

ultramiraculous posted:

is it the nsa or some other three-letter agency whose procedure for escorted guests involved some sort of an alert to your presence? i know my mom has mentioned having to be followed around with a flashing light or something so the spooks would know to shut up when she left the conference room to pee.

~OPSec~

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009
I think it'd be safer and maximum opsec for all concerned if we put all the 5 eyes spooks in a single gigantic airtight off-the-grid facility 5 miles underground and permanently sealed up the entraces and exits.

JewKiller 3000
Nov 28, 2006

by Lowtax
what makes you think they haven't :tinfoil:

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009
That would raise some questions as to who or what is currently occupying all the infrastructure above ground while masquerading as government spies.

Computer Serf
May 14, 2005
Buglord
something about america's contingency of government plan entails the shadow back up government always being stored underground since the cold war and only a few of the above ground normie government bureaucrats are given special let me into the bunker clearance cards that they're never supposed to talk about because most of their coworkers arent cool enough to save in the event of the apocalypse

syscall girl
Nov 7, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe

Computer Serf posted:

something about america's contingency of government plan entails the shadow back up government always being stored underground since the cold war and only a few of the above ground normie government bureaucrats are given special let me into the bunker clearance cards that they're never supposed to talk about because most of their coworkers arent cool enough to save in the event of the apocalypse

you can tell the "cool" government bureaucrats because they get actual smart cards instead of the ones with the printed on icc

Maximum Leader
Dec 5, 2014

ate all the Oreos posted:

protip: you can get through cape canaveral's gate if you go during morning rush hour and hold up something rectangular that kinda sorta looks like a badge at the guard who's just trying to get all the workers through for their morning shifts

how illegal would this be?

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

Maximum Leader posted:

how illegal would this be?

i imagine you'd be doing pretty well if you merely find yourself in a situation where that becomes a question

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

Vehicular Manslaughter!

Pillbug

ultramiraculous posted:

is it the nsa or some other three-letter agency whose procedure for escorted guests involved some sort of an alert to your presence? i know my mom has mentioned having to be followed around with a flashing light or something so the spooks would know to shut up when she left the conference room to pee.

I'm pretty sure that's procedure at lots of sites, someone warning about uncleared personnel so people have a chance to clean their desks and lock their screens.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

ultramiraculous posted:

is it the nsa or some other three-letter agency whose procedure for escorted guests involved some sort of an alert to your presence? i know my mom has mentioned having to be followed around with a flashing light or something so the spooks would know to shut up when she left the conference room to pee.

some areas at british mic companies are like that - you get followed around by someone literally holding a stick with "UNCLEARED" written on it

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

my bitter bi rival posted:

The web key is only “readable” and therefore there is no risk of virus transmission.

the USB firmware doesn't handle DFU_DNLOAD? where did you read that?

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Cybernetic Vermin posted:

i imagine you'd be doing pretty well if you merely find yourself in a situation where that becomes a question

eh, if you're just caught on the surface streets you'd probably get a stern yelling at by base police but not actually arrested unless they catch you trying to get into some of the buildings. all the actual sensitive stuff is behind its own secondary security systems and the REALLY sensitive stuff (like where they do the checkout of satellites, where they keep all the explody things, etc) is behind much stronger protection.

once on bring your kid to work day my dad took me to the (outer fence of the) building where they got the upper bits of the Delta II ready to go and since it had both explody things and the possibility of spy satellites it had this very fancy multi-layer perimeter fence that i made the mistake of leaning on and within 20 seconds a grumpy guard came out and was like "hey kid don't touch the fence it makes my alarms beep real loud"

jammyozzy
Dec 7, 2006

Is that a challenge?

Cocoa Crispies posted:

I'm pretty sure that's procedure at lots of sites, someone warning about uncleared personnel so people have a chance to clean their desks and lock their screens.

This is ideally what should happen, but at my old job the same people over and over again just brought visitors in unannounced, leading to a scramble to hide paperwork and an office full of engineers sat in front of locked workstations, glaring at the tour leader.

The best tour was when someone who really should have known better opened the door to the "ITAR stuff inside, no uncleared people, seriously" room (which was a glass-walled meeting room with paper taped over the windows).

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

jammyozzy posted:

(which was a glass-walled meeting room with paper taped over the windows).
lol

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

Subjunctive posted:

the USB firmware doesn't handle DFU_DNLOAD? where did you read that?

1st list last item in the original link

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

my bitter bi rival posted:

1st list last item in the original link

ah, quite

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A Pinball Wizard
Mar 23, 2005

I know every trick, no freak's gonna beat my hands

College Slice
gonna get a batch of those going that takes people to lastmeasure

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