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When I did my first one it was the FBI that contacted the people I listed. By the time I did my last, it was a private company with a contract. I think they were the ones that hosed up and got all the info stolen.
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CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:It's complete arbitrary based on your case worker. I've had friends who did a looooooot of poo poo and ended up with clearance. I had quite a few things as well, and got mine. Some people have minor infractions and get rejected. Oh I got my clearance in about five months, I just didn't get precleared so I couldn't take the initial job I was up for and ended up at interviewing with a different contractor right when my clearance came through.
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CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:There was one guy who molested his daughter and he still got clearance. I saw one where a dude molested both his sisters and watched anime child porn while his children were in the room. Then lied about it too the investigator, including not mentioning convictions. His clearance was denied, and I like to imagine he was literally thrown out of the building, complete with cartoon sound effect.
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Jul 14, 2017 16:07
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skylined! posted:
What little we know indicates hillary, Obama, and the entire democratic and republican leadership knew all about this but we're ignored/silent for a litany of different reasons.
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Jul 14, 2017 16:08
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DreamShipWrecked posted:So this is probably old news to everyone else, but I looked up Trump's lawyer on Wiki. At this point I am developing a pet hypothesis that Russia saw Citizens United as a massive opportunity to funnel money into vulnerable US politicians- and wound up funding a fair portion of the GOP establishment as a result. Further, I suspect the Russians may learned from what the Koch bro's did in creating the Tea Party and are using that as a model to steer/manipulate the alt-right. I am also very suspicious that Russia might have been quietly funding certain American fringe media figures like Alex Jones and the like- certainly Russia has no problem in openly using state assets like RT to support people like Alex Jones. I think at this point there is a case to be made that Russia may have embraced phase two of the cold war in a much more serious way than America was really prepared to deal with.
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I was asked about a high school exchange trip to Russia that I'd been on when interviewing for a government-adjacent job once. Kinda weirded me out, because I hadn't mentioned anything about it on my application or resume, but I guess their background check was just really thorough. Looking back, I think they were just hoping I spoke the language, but who knows
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Prester Jane posted:At this point I am developing a pet hypothesis that Russia saw Citizens United as a massive opportunity to funnel money into vulnerable US politicians- and wound up funding a fair portion of the GOP establishment as a result. This is basically what One Nation and Senate Leadership Fund have been doing. I dug up the FEC filings and they're in the first couple paragraphs of my megapost (page 30 of Russia thread). It's why McConnell is turtling at the mere mention of investigating Russian links.
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Hi. I liked Senator Warren's sum up of the healthcare bill. https://twitter.com/SenWarren/status/885617340007710722 I also like how politicians/journalists are getting around Twitter's word limit with screenshots of messages and these videos.
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Jul 14, 2017 16:12
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Blue Footed Booby posted:I saw one where a dude molested both his sisters and watched anime child porn while his children were in the room. Then lied about it too the investigator, including not mentioning convictions. His clearance was denied, and I like to imagine he was literally thrown out of the building, complete with cartoon sound effect. EDIT: Ok that was in bad taste.
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Jul 14, 2017 16:14
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Futuresight posted:Do you have to disclose Something Awful posting and internet friends and EVE alliances and stuff like that on the SF86? Serious question. At a security clearance interview once, I was asked to disclose if I was Alliance or Horde.
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Jul 14, 2017 16:14
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CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:There was one guy who molested his daughter and he still got clearance. I mean, can they avoid giving security clearance to the president?
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Jul 14, 2017 16:14
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Al Borland Corp. posted:Well you kind of have to give clearance to the president.  You're seriously on a roll lately.
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Jul 14, 2017 16:14
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The last network engineering crew that I was on - everybody was cleared at TS level and I was the only person who didn't have a DUI, been in jail, or both.
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Jul 14, 2017 16:15
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The Glumslinger posted:I mean, can they avoid giving security clearance to the president? No. A political position you were elected to gives you security clearance, or rather absolves you from needing one, automatically.
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Jul 14, 2017 16:16
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Chilichimp posted:It's almost like government employees don't do anything and just post on SA all day ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I plead the 5th.
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Jul 14, 2017 16:17
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Sesq posted:At a security clearance interview once, I was asked to disclose if I was Alliance or Horde. My friends was getting a top secret clearance and I was interviewed, they asked me what nations did he represent in model UN and asked me to explain the nature of some of our dungeons and dragons campaigns.
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The Glumslinger posted:I mean, can they avoid giving security clearance to the president? The best they can do is leave out sensitive information that he might not need to know that they are afraid he might leak to enemies. Fortunately, Trump is an easily-bored imbecile with the attention span of a kitten in a laser pointer factory, so its easy to keep important secrets away from him, but if Trump hypothetically ordered the CIA to explain everything they know about the world, they would have to do it.
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Rigel posted:The best they can do is leave out sensitive information that he might not need to know that they are afraid he might leak to enemies. Fortunately, Trump is an easily-bored imbecile with the attention span of a kitten in a laser pointer factory, so its easy to keep important secrets away from him, but if Trump hypothetically ordered the CIA to explain everything they know about the world, they would have to do it. This is basically what they are doing anyways, no?
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Jul 14, 2017 16:21
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I always loved getting asked the attempt to overthrow the government question. No, not that I am aware of.
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Jul 14, 2017 16:23
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Al Borland Corp. posted:My friends was getting a top secret clearance and I was interviewed, they asked me what nations did he represent in model UN and asked me to explain the nature of some of our dungeons and dragons campaigns. Hmph, you ain't no kinda cleared goon if you haven't spent 40 minutes juggling your contact info for work history, living arrangement, and personal contacts to disguise the fact you're a friendless loser.   I made myself sad.
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Exactly the level of maturity I've come to expect from the President of the United States.
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Jul 14, 2017 16:26
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Al Borland Corp. posted:My friends was getting a top secret clearance and I was interviewed, they asked me what nations did he represent in model UN and asked me to explain the nature of some of our dungeons and dragons campaigns. At one of my interviews, I was asked whether anyone in my family was a dual citizen. "Like...a sister..maybe...?" rather leading me to say yes. Turns out, the office that had contracted the interview process made a mistake and listed an old ex-girlfriend (who was a dual French citizen before she dropped it for the Army) as my sister. That was the first time I learned that maybe the people in charge of security were human just like me and just as prone to mistakes. Mind blowing stuff, I know.
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Fangthane posted:At one of my interviews, I was asked whether anyone in my family was a dual citizen. "Like...a sister..maybe...?" rather leading me to say yes. Turns out, the office that had contracted the interview process made a mistake and listed an old ex-girlfriend (who was a dual French citizen before she dropped it for the Army) as my sister. That was the first time I learned that maybe the people in charge of security were human just like me and just as prone to mistakes. Mind blowing stuff, I know. The people in charge of the security process are probably goons. They'd get to this poo poo faster, but GBS photoshop threads don't browse themselves.
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Sesq posted:At a security clearance interview once, I was asked to disclose if I was Alliance or Horde. I'd like to think the US government prefers the Horde.
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aware of dog posted:Yeah, jumped the gun on that, however: Oops.... Oops... Oops... Oops Oops Oops Oops Oops Oops Oops Oops Oops Oops Oops Oops Oops Oops Oops Oops Oops Oops Oops Oops Oops Oops Oops Oops Oops
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The Glumslinger posted:I mean, can they avoid giving security clearance to the president? Holy poo poo.
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Chilichimp posted:Exactly the level of maturity I've come to expect from the President of the United States. He didn't put his dick in GWB's open hand so it's not Presdidential enough if you ask me.
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I thought we all got automatic CIA level security clearances when we paid our tenbux?
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cochise posted:I'd like to think the US government prefers the Horde. I don't know, my clearance was delayed for 3 months because I said Garrosh did nothing wrong. Speaking of which. https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/885882300885602304 Man he's never gonna get a clearance now!
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cochise posted:I'd like to think the US government prefers the Horde. * Monarchy/dictatorship rather than tribal democracy * Okay with other races as long as they stay in their designated areas * Overwrought and grandiose architecture * Capital city is a den of idiots and perverts You know drat well they're Alliance.
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Fitzy Fitz posted:Oops.... Oops... Oops... Does that mean he had to type 'icolludewithrussians69' 28 times? And he claims it was an accident? I call bullshit.
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BrandorKP posted:I always loved getting asked the attempt to overthrow the government question. No, not that I am aware of. This is my biggest argument against the second amendment. How much good is my shotgun going to do against the U.S. armed forces? I think drones, jets, tanks, and missiles would just destroy us. What's the point?
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The WTF Just Happened Today? sketch today is.. unsettling #drawingthenews Kellyanne Conway resorts to flash cards to explain Russia controversy. Art by Eli Neugeboren
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RisqueBarber posted:This is my biggest argument against the second amendment. How much good is my shotgun going to do against the U.S. armed forces? I think drones, jets, tanks, and missiles would just destroy us. What's the point? Which is why gun nuts are pushing for the ability to own RPGs and other high powered weaponry. Y'know, just in case.
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haveblue posted:...Why are there 2 statues? one is his dad
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mdemone posted:This is basically what One Nation and Senate Leadership Fund have been doing. I dug up the FEC filings and they're in the first couple paragraphs of my megapost (page 30 of Russia thread). Thanks, I'm going to go check this out. FYI, I have a hunch I have long wanted to run by someone like you. (That is to say someone who understands how to run down financial connections.) There is an organization called "School of Tomorrow" that I suspect an investigation into their financial history would lead rapidly into some fascinating places. School of Tomorrow publishes a conservative christian private/home school curriculum called "Accelerated Christian Education". This particular organization has deep ties to the Republican political establishment via the Council for National Policy, (the founder of School of Tomorrow sat on the board of the CNP for many years) and the GOP has acted repeatedly over the years to keep School of Tomorrow as far out of the public limelight as possible. For a demonstration of the depth of the ties between School of Tomorrow and the GOP I reference the article "Remember the Christian Alamo". This article details how a School of Tomorrow facility that had been shut down for the concentration-camp levels of abuse it was heaping on teenage girls. (beatings, forced stress positions for hours, solitary confinement with constant auditory harassment for periods of up to 30 days, etc) Then Governor of Texas George W Bush swooped in and personally intervened to not only reopen the facility but to protect it from future state oversight with a RFRA law. The thing about School of Tomorrow is that although the CNP is pretty competently run, SoT is staffed primarily by its own deluded cultists at this point. As a result of years of dealing with that organization I am 100% certain that they haven't the sense to cover their tracks competently. I rather suspect that an investigation into their financial history/financial history of their chief officers (the founder of A.C.E. was quietly forced out of the organization for raping one of his students, his wife runs it now) would yield a bountiful harvest of interesting connections and leads. I have no capacity to take my investigation of School of Tomorrow any further than I have, but I am very certain that once someone starts seriously looking all kinds of fascinating poo poo will emerge. As an organization School of Tomorrow posses the delightful combination of outright evil and bumbling incompetence that has come to define Trump. So if you (or anyone else who has the capacity) ever gets the chance to kick the tires of that one, please let me know what you find.
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Al Borland Corp. posted:My friends was getting a top secret clearance and I was interviewed, they asked me what nations did he represent in model UN and asked me to explain the nature of some of our dungeons and dragons campaigns. Being forced to tell the Federal Government that I main a neutral chaotic dwarf cleric is now on my bucket list
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