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Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

ate poo poo on live tv posted:

No only racists, like you, say that.

Its not racist to hate white people

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Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

UHD posted:

why does anyone ever care what someone says on twitter

Because who else are we going to get mad at

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice
Also stop engaging Zegermans TIA. Most people started doing that with CC and the thread got a lot better.

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice

Venom Snake posted:

Because who else are we going to get mad at

New York Times Op-Eds.

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

zegermans posted:

All Workers Matter

:yeah:

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

gradenko_2000 posted:

Kshama Sawant :syoon:

mah waifu

Agnosticnixie
Jan 6, 2015

zegermans posted:

also until I see a direct link to that article I'm not convinced it's real, that's way too "socialists are totally blind to racism" stereotyping

Yeah it's fake afaict, Jacobin has been lurching right but they have the exact opposite opinion most times they talk about cops.

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001

Al! posted:

except for webb. i lay awake at night afraid he is under my bed in full camo

webb had some of the realest moments in the entire democratic primary

Feldegast42
Oct 29, 2011

COMMENCE THE RITE OF SHITPOSTING

Bernie will never die because hes the legendary wandering jew

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

Agnosticnixie posted:

Yeah it's fake afaict, Jacobin has been lurching right but they have the exact opposite opinion most times they talk about cops.

no its real

Frijolero
Jan 24, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
https://twitter.com/theintercept/status/885888308966035461

Big Dick Beto keeping the scene alive.

Although I don't know how much support is him being a cool progressive and how much is people really hating Ted Cruz

Agnosticnixie
Jan 6, 2015

gradenko_2000 posted:

Kshama Sawant :syoon:

This but in a primary where everyone to the right of Bernie is summarily liquidated, so it's a clown car where Sanders is actually the most right wing imperialist.

ThndrShk2k
Nov 3, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
Bread Liar
Well technically their unions are still around and powerful, so...


Maybe we should focus on the culture of police being poisoned, like how the government forces them to handle their work through provable metrics instead of actually doing good, and the subsequent need to defend themselves for trying to do their job rather than doing good and how that cascades into what training they prioritize and cycles into the poisonous culture.

Basically stop means-testing policing results with metrics. Once you give the police a quota to reach to keep their job you've given up on trying to actually do good. Those who need to meet their quota will go for easy targets and perpetuate/encourage the problems of society.


Policing ain't a business and we should stop treating it as such. :colbert:

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


Feldegast42 posted:

Bernie will never die because hes the legendary wandering jew

bernie is actually the golem of Prague with a killer make up job.

Zhulik
Nov 14, 2012

The Montreal Star
personally, I expect a fully grown and clothed perfect socialist candidate to spring forth from Bernie's forehead on live tv

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

ThndrShk2k posted:

Well technically their unions are still around and powerful, so...


Maybe we should focus on the culture of police being poisoned, like how the government forces them to handle their work through provable metrics instead of actually doing good, and the subsequent need to defend themselves for trying to do their job rather than doing good and how that cascades into what training they prioritize and cycles into the poisonous culture.

Basically stop means-testing policing results with metrics. Once you give the police a quota to reach to keep their job you've given up on trying to actually do good. Those who need to meet their quota will go for easy targets and perpetuate/encourage the problems of society.


Policing ain't a business and we should stop treating it as such. :colbert:

only one thing will fix the police and that's the complete abandonment of the war on drugs.

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


Frijolero posted:

https://twitter.com/theintercept/status/885888308966035461

Big Dick Beto keeping the scene alive.

Although I don't know how much support is him being a cool progressive and how much is people really hating Ted Cruz

let's be honest, if it gets rid of Ted Cruz does anyone really care that much?

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Feldegast42 posted:

Bernie will never die because hes the legendary wandering jew

I thought that was the Geordi-Visor-Guy from Evangelion

ThndrShk2k
Nov 3, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
Bread Liar

zegermans posted:

Its not racist to hate white people based on their skin color
:ironicat:
Sure is bigoted and prejudiced to hate people based on uncontrollable factors of their birth in relation to their race and ethnicity.


MLKJr didn't hate white people, why should you?

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Agean90 posted:

let's be honest, if it gets rid of Ted Cruz does anyone really care that much?

Ted Cruz, while odious, is a pretty a guaranteed vote against anything lovely because it's never lovely enough for him. A neoliberal would probably be more easily persuaded.

I say let Cruz shine on.

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Al! posted:

only one thing will fix the police and that's the complete abandonment of the war on drugs.

That is necessary, but not sufficient.

ThndrShk2k
Nov 3, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
Bread Liar

Al! posted:

only one thing will fix the police and that's the complete abandonment of the war on drugs.
There's a lot of metrics that the powers that be love to get off from in that whole 'war'
It's loving gross IMO.

I'm on the side of Prohibition Doesn't Work.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
*in turn of the century newsboy voice*

SUCK zone, SUCK zone, read all about it

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

ThndrShk2k posted:

MLKJr didn't hate white people, why should you?

because the real movers and shakers of the Civil Rights Movement did that for him, to great success.

Agnosticnixie
Jan 6, 2015
Police is probably inherently unfixable but the part of the population that trusts them goes well beyond even whites as a rule so campaigning on abolition is probably suicide anyway. It's still irresponsible to act like they can really be fixed but idk.

(I forgot words)

Agnosticnixie has issued a correction as of 17:20 on Jul 14, 2017

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


zegermans posted:

I thought that was the Geordi-Visor-Guy from Evangelion

lol at thinking they're different people

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




ThndrShk2k posted:

the culture of police being poisoned,

is there a movement i hadnt heard about

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Al! posted:

only one thing will fix the police and that's the complete abandonment of the war on drugs.

the best method is to remove all accusations of police misconduct from local jurisdictions/DAs. But I'm sure you'd still have a DA that intentionally puts piglovers on the jury even if you move the case from NY to CA.

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

ate poo poo on live tv posted:

That is necessary, but not sufficient.

well also police disarmament. the people should probably always be more heavily armed than the police

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
what im saying is that cops should basically be crossing guards you can shoot if you disagree with them


then maybe ill have a little sympathy about how hard their job is

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme

Frijolero posted:

https://twitter.com/theintercept/status/885888308966035461

Big Dick Beto keeping the scene alive.

Although I don't know how much support is him being a cool progressive and how much is people really hating Ted Cruz

he raised $2.1m but spend $720k on acquisition (email, facebook ads, etc) to do it. i think at one point their targeting was literally anyone over 18 in the united states with facebook ads. maybe it will pay off if a lot of those people come back and donate again, we'll see.

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

Al! posted:

imagine giving a poo poo about any of the failed democratic candidates in 2017


except for webb. i lay awake at night afraid he is under my bed in full camo

:Webb looking at monster Hillary in Dee's comic:

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Al! posted:

what im saying is that cops should basically be crossing guards you can shoot if you disagree with them


then maybe ill have a little sympathy about how hard their job is

my coworkers get so mad when i point out being a cop is less dangerous than like 15 other professions, and they don't ever tell lumberjacks that they thank them for their service

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

zegermans posted:

my coworkers get so mad when i point out being a cop is less dangerous than like 15 other professions, and they don't ever tell lumberjacks that they thank them for their service

if the job of being a police was that dangerous they wouldn't have cowards signing up left and right

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
the most dangerous part of being a cop is driving a car

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

police officers are very dangerous drivers.

ThndrShk2k
Nov 3, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
Bread Liar

zegermans posted:

because the real movers and shakers of the Civil Rights Movement did that for him, to great success.
:ironicat:

:ssh: The reason he didn't was because it would've been hypocritical to his social message of equality, thus being exactly like the powers that be he opposes and deflating the impact of his message. The problem wasn't white folks but the powers that be that wanted to keep the ancient status quo in place as the greatest adversaries were moderates who bargain with their human rights.


Also socialism is inclusive.

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
the poo poo i have to deal with every day. i mean just today some black guy got blood all over my uniform because he was mad i rear-ended him. yep, people don't appreciate what we do.

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GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
white folks think civil rights too spicy

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