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Randaconda posted:Works for SJWs, so might as well. Ah yes, those dastardly SJW's. You must have some real good opinions about ethics in videogame journalism.    
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ekuNNN posted:Ah yes, those dastardly SJW's. You must have some real good opinions about ethics in videogame journalism. Nah, those fuckers are way worse.
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Mu Zeta posted:Stop giving so much power to dumb words The only good season of that show was the first, so I'm going to agree with ol' Frank
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For the record, both Mayweather and his father straight up said the use of the word boy did not matter beyond normal fight trash talk. Mcgregor is definitely walking the line, and certainly has crossed it to many people, but its grey enough that there is only a middling amount of actual anger over it, mostly by non fight fans who saw it on their facebook feed. Mcgregor being Irish will also influence this since there isn ot the same history of the word there. We can argue about whether or not her should know this, but it is a factor. But also lol to anyone who does not get that the word "boy" was constantly used to describe black men forever in America, so its a super charged word to use in this manner. hell there is a famous story of MLK's father being pulled over and the cop using the word. It was constantly pejoratively used to refer to grown black men, regardless of context, and especially by police. "He took some major risks with it. One time, when he was pulled over by a police officer for running a stop sign, the officer called him “boy.” King Sr. wouldn’t stand for it. “Let me make it clear,” he told the officer. “You aren’t talking to a boy. If you persist in referring to me as a boy, I will be forced to act as if I don’t hear a word you’re saying.”" http://listverse.com/2017/02/13/10-defining-moments-in-the-childhood-of-martin-luther-king-jr/
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What a strange reaction to say, "Well, I've never heard of it being racist, so I'm just going to keep saying it" upon being told that something is indeed racist.
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Mu Zeta posted:Stop giving so much power to dumb words
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WoodrowSkillson posted:But also lol to anyone who does not get that the word "boy" was constantly used to describe black men forever in America, so its a super charged word to use in this manner. hell there is a famous story of MLK's father being pulled over and the cop using the word. It was constantly pejoratively used to refer to grown black men, regardless of context, and especially by police. Let's be real here, the word "boy" in the context we're discussing is used as a synonym for "slave". When slavery was legal, it was a "nice" way to refer to a black person, and after it was no longer legal, the word became a way for white people to continue to talk to black people as if they were slaves. It's saying "hey, I know we had this whole emancipation/civil rights thing, but to me you're still nothing but a slave. So dance for me slave". People are free to just stay willfully ignorant of all that, but it's loving embarrassing that Americans can graduate high school without knowing this stuff.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:What a strange reaction to say, "Well, I've never heard of it being racist, so I'm just going to keep saying it" upon being told that something is indeed racist. Nah, it's pretty standard. "Racists are bad people and I'm not a bad person, therefore nothing I do or say could be racist and they must just be overreacting" is surprisingly common.
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Well, if the president can be this pig-ignorant...
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I think Americans are overestimating just how prevalent their culture is- I'm Malaysian, and I had absolutely no idea that 'boy' had somehow become racist.
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CommissarMega posted:I think Americans are overestimating just how prevalent their culture is- I'm Malaysian, and I had absolutely no idea that 'boy' had somehow become racist. Really? I know back in the day that British colonialists often referred to native servants as boy.
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CommissarMega posted:I think Americans are overestimating just how prevalent their culture is- I'm Malaysian, and I had absolutely no idea that 'boy' had somehow become racist. Again, wer'e not upset at foreigners for not knowing the nuances of our history. Right now we're upset at the dumbfuck Americans in this thread who take apparent pride in not knowing their own history.
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I think it's nice that these slurs have become so scarce that a good portion of the population has never encountered them
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Tunicate posted:I think it's nice that these slurs have become so scarce that a good portion of the white population has never encountered them
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Voyager I posted:Again, wer'e not upset at foreigners for not knowing the nuances of our history. This is exactly how this discussion started, though?
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Tunicate posted:I think it's nice that these slurs have become so scarce that a good portion of the population has never encountered them these slurs? This whole derail started because someone took offense to the word "boy" You know, common, everyday language to denote a male child. But at one time, someone said it in a negative way to a black person (is it ok to call them that, my primer isn't up to date) so we can never use it again. loving hell, people. Context. "Congratulations Mr. and Mrs. Smith. It's a healthy baby boy. *Gasps of shock and horror* (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Velocity Raptor posted:"Congratulations Mr. and Mrs. Smith. It's a healthy baby boy. Not to mention all the cannibals out there eating crackers
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Basebf555 posted:People are free to just stay willfully ignorant of all that, but it's loving embarrassing that Americans can graduate high school without knowing this stuff. Why is it a shock that it's not taught anymore? It has less and less power as time goes on. Eventually it will be like how everyone used to think MASH was the best show ever and nobody cares about it anymore, at least if you're under 25. It's not about ignorance, it's just irrelevant.
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ElGroucho posted:I can't tell if you are all sincere idiots or ironic idiots You call an idiot an idiot.
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Velocity Raptor posted:is it ok to call them that, my primer isn't up to date Find a black man, call him "boy" and find out for yourself you colossal rear end in a top hat
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Racial language seems the nearest thing to sacrilege for our times. I can't think of any other field in which a single word can elicit such a strong reaction.
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Strudel Man posted:Racial language seems the nearest thing to sacrilege for our times. I can't think of any other field in which a single word can elicit such a strong reaction. yeah, one of the worst things about society is treated that way
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majour333 posted:Find a black man, call him "boy" and find out for yourself you colossal rear end in a top hat They meant saying "black person" you colossal rear end in a top hat.
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Calling a grown black man "boy" is racist in the United States. I can understand someone in, say, Malaysia not knowing this. I have higher expectations of someone who's lived and worked here for years. There are so many better ways to insult Floyd Mayweather anyway. Also shout out to anyone who complains about SJWs, it's an easy shortcut to know you're a garbage human.
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:When I was a kid there was a commercial on USA? I think, where they were saying all the horrible racist words, and the dumbest one I heard was "Jigaboo" (sorry if it's not spelled correctly, racist autists, I'm going by phonics). I laughed my rear end off at this word because it was (and still is) the single most dumbfuck thing people could call someone and have it somehow be mean because, seriously just look at the loving word. I had a barber when I was little that used to play jazz music and tell me he called it "Jungle Bunny" music and into my teens I somehow thought that was slang for something being sexy/having sex? Like I guess I knew what a Playboy Bunny was, and I knew that a Snow Bunny is a term for an attractive woman in winter clothes, so it must have something to do with sexiness and music? Thankfully I never repeated it. 
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Velocity Raptor posted:loving hell, people. Context. So uh what was the context in which the word was used here
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Tunicate posted:I think it's nice that these slurs have become so scarce that a good portion of the population has never encountered them If you went to an American High School you've encountered these terms. I mean, To Kill a Mockingbird? Ring any bells? Of Mice and Men? Tom Sawyer? Heart of Darkness? The Great Gatsby? Pretty much any book in a High School literature curriculum dude. The racism might not be front and center and the point of the story but it's there - if you somehow missed it ...I don't know what to tell you. And that's just the stuff you get forced to read in school. If you ever take five seconds to crack open a book or (God forbid) go to a LIEberal college you'll find a whole world of extremely explicit context for which statements are racist and why.
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WoodrowSkillson posted:this rapidly went from discussing the specific incident into total idiocy Buffoonery! Buffoonery everywhere you look! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0R7oRYoEaM    
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Zamboni_Rodeo posted:And I can't see that word without being reminded that this happened: There was also a class in a Texas elementary school that were given the nickname "The Jigaboos" as part of a team building exercise and no one apparently had the slightest inkling there was anything wrong with that until a parent pointed it out. But they're all beat by the Australian school who gave a student the go ahead to dress up as Hitler for Book Week on a day when a bunch of kids from a Jewish school were visiting.  People are dense motherfuckers.
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Mu Zeta posted:Why is it a shock that it's not taught anymore? It has less and less power as time goes on. Eventually it will be like how everyone used to think MASH was the best show ever and nobody cares about it anymore, at least if you're under 25. Basic American history is irrelevant now? We shouldn't be taught anything about the events that took place in our country between 1800 and 1970? All that is now irrelevant huh? Again, there is no unit in the curriculum where kids memorize a glossary of racial slurs, you teach them what happened, and in within that context they learn about the various ways that black people were exploited and persecuted in the past. Are you saying we shouldn't be teaching that stuff anymore?
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Basebf555 posted:Basic American history is irrelevant now? We shouldn't be taught anything about the events that took place in our country between 1800 and 1970? All that is now irrelevant huh? Yew sound like wunna-dem Kommon Kore people. The way I learned things was just fine! I don't like change!
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Basebf555 posted:Basic American history is irrelevant now? We shouldn't be taught anything about the events that took place in our country between 1800 and 1970? All that is now irrelevant huh? settle down, beavis
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