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Dreylad posted:i read a good book a while ago about the shift from blasphemy to obscenity in 19th century england that was very much rooted in middle-class christian beliefs and disciplining/controlling the political and social expressions of the working class Say where have I seen this before, could it be something to do with popular culture and wokery? Could the same people being real mad about using the wrong words also be the people real mad about consuming the wrong media? say it aint so
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Byolante posted:Say where have I seen this before, could it be something to do with popular culture and wokery? Could the same people being real mad about using the wrong words also be the people real mad about consuming the wrong media? say it aint so yeah, there are definitely parallels with moral purity and transgression then and now. Angela Nagle's book on the alt-right also delves into this subject (and is really good)
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nopantsjack posted:or if you live in the north, you silly oval office
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I was under the impression that "oval office" was just australian slang for "friend"
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don't look at me, this shithead prefers the use of 'shithead' as a gender-neutral, all-purpose insult.
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TomViolence posted:Words like oval office and arse and whatnot didn't used to be offensive, what used to get you (sometimes literally) excoriated was blasphemy. You could say oval office all you want as long as you didn't take the lord's name in vain, but in our secular age blasphemy's been superseded by reminding folk they have vital, material bodies full of piss, poo poo and blood, which kind of reflects our unease with our tenuous and fragile existence in a newly godless universe. So really what this policing of vulgarity tells us is that we're obsessed with morbidity and disgusted by our own profane materiality, it's a very gnostic take on things when you think about it so the divine has been sort of discursively resurrected as a malevolent demiurge that we fear angering through saying bad words so really when you think about it, South park was right all along. 'swounds!
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I'm in Glasgow right now and I've not heard anyone call each other cunts in thick Scottish accents yet 
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got any sevens posted:fanny pack https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDsfzJXGAo8&t=49s
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:people defending their use of oval office remind me of all those Aussies who said that their blackface minstrel shows couldn't be racist because they weren't American and therefore they were unrelated to slavery I'm so glad all the worst posters found something they can be disingenuously sanctimonious about.
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Jul 14, 2017 19:18
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theresa may is bam also a oval office and that is not a term of endearment 
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Dreylad posted:yeah, there are definitely parallels with moral purity and transgression then and now. Angela Nagle's book on the alt-right also delves into this subject (and is really good) I'm going to make a thread specifically on that book whenever I get a bit of free time in the next day or two, I hope you'll be willing to post your thoughts
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Helsing posted:I'm going to make a thread specifically on that book whenever I get a bit of free time in the next day or two, I hope you'll be willing to post your thoughts Absolutely, looking forward to it!
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Whorelord posted:all you cunts need to shut the gently caress up and stop loving oppressing our cunting culture and our right to call a loving oval office a oval office C-spam hates women
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oval office loses some of its power when you have lively slang like 'gash' to slur with instead also it was a genuine term of endearment in the victorian era or something?
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Jul 14, 2017 20:10
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90% of all powerful insults are either 1. calling someone mentally challenged 2. calling someone a woman 3. calling someone an ethnic slur
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wikipedia posted:However, in Chaucer's usage there seems to be an overlap between the words "oval office" and "quaint" (possibly derived from the Latin for "known"). "Quaint" was probably pronounced in Middle English in much the same way as "oval office". It is sometimes unclear whether the two words were thought of as distinct from one another. Elsewhere in Chaucer's work the word queynte seems to be used with meaning comparable to the modern "quaint" (curious or old-fashioned, but nevertheless appealing). ...huh
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Jul 14, 2017 20:16
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Terror Sweat posted:90% of all powerful insults are either cuck!
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Jul 14, 2017 20:26
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Baloogan posted:cuck! extremely progressive of u baloogan
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i mean cuck is traditionally aimed at men but also insults one in a sexualized but technically non-gendered manner making it a
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Hodgepodge posted:i mean cuck is traditionally aimed at men but also insults one in a sexualized but technically non-gendered manner making it a It's an accusation of sexual inadequacy, with heavy implications that the target is a failure as a man (as real men keep their women satisfied and thus loyal). More pragmatically, it gets tossed around for the same reasons and by the same people who, ten years ago or so, would still be calling everyone fags.
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Baloogan posted:cuck! no that falls under the 'call a man a woman' category
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BREAKING https://twitter.com/YvetteCooperMP/status/885939870346227712
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Captain_Maclaine posted:It's an accusation of sexual inadequacy, with heavy implications that the target is a failure as a man (as real men keep their women satisfied and thus loyal). acuckoldsayswhat?
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Captain_Maclaine posted:It's an accusation of sexual inadequacy, with heavy implications that the target is a failure as a man (as real men keep their women satisfied and thus loyal). yeah but in this context implying that a woman requires and deserves sexual pleasure rather than insulting masculinity by denigrating gay men is 'progress' even if the contextual implication is that an unsatisfied woman will seek out black men for sexual pleasure which is all sorts of 'problematic'
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Jul 14, 2017 20:48
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also it rhymes with duck which has pleasing intersection with various c-spam avatars which i think we can all agree is veryt important
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https://twitter.com/malaiseforever/status/885934624593113088 HUMILIATION FOR LOSER CLEGG
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Terror Sweat posted:90% of all powerful insults are either maybe in english you mangy bat
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Nanomashoes posted:https://twitter.com/malaiseforever/status/885934624593113088 
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Baloogan posted:cuck! cuck used to be powerful but it was subsequently meta-cucked by frightened nerds
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Brexit followed by Corbyn in No 10 would put UK flat on its back – Tony Blair Former Labour prime minister issues warning in lengthy article published by his own political institute https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jul/15/brexit-followed-by-corbyn-put-uk-flat-on-back-tony-blair 
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Slim Jim Pickens posted:maybe in english you mangy bat powerful insults. who the gently caress really cares about being called an animal. although i did forget about the category of 4. insulting someones mother
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Jul 15, 2017 16:48
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do people really still listen to tony blair?
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Lastgirl posted:do people really still listen to tony blair? yeah, to do the opposite of what he says. thats not an exaggeration, when he spoke agaisnt corbyn it only increased his support because ppl hate blair so much
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very clever move by corbyn to use blair that way
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Lastgirl posted:do people really still listen to tony blair? certain people like hamprince revere him!
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Lastgirl posted:do people really still listen to tony blair? no
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hamprince only says that because he cucked hamprince's lord and master rupert murdoch
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