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Venom Snake posted:Another Trademark Venom Snake Hot Take is that Hillary should have doubled down and acted like a huge rear end in a top hat. She was at the height of her popularity when she was blowing up people in Libya and laughing at bengazhi panels. Nobody likes a nice grandma. I agree people want assholes
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Venom Snake posted:Another Trademark Venom Snake Hot Take is that Hillary should have doubled down and acted like a huge rear end in a top hat. She was at the height of her popularity when she was blowing up people in Libya and laughing at bengazhi panels. Nobody likes a nice grandma. Didn't help that her nice grandma came off as forced and inauthentic.
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Jul 14, 2017 21:01
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I liked when a reporter asked her about Schumer's opposition to the Iran Deal and she gave a fake rear end smile and walked away
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SKULL.GIF posted:The "basket of deplorables" comment probably was a critical hit to her from both sides like you describe, too. It is never a good idea to attack voters. The dumb thing was we got a candidate who couldn't exploit that angle because they themselves would be under the same scrutiny. It's kind of those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones thing for Hillary. She's too entrenched in the upper echelons to be immune from blowback on that angle.
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Jul 14, 2017 21:07
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Captain_Maclaine posted:Obama has, however, the personal popularity and campaigning chops to ameliorate his failures and shortcoming and also to inspire (his base at least) with lofty rhetoric that, even on the worst day of his life, Hillary couldn't touch on her best.  lol
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:Q: has anyone seen a substantive lib/bad dem critique of corbyn beyond associating him with chavez or alleging he's antisemitic? well, here's a good substantive one he didn't win
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GalacticAcid posted:poor donald Uncouth Donald who isn't in the select club of NYC billionaires. quote:Q: has anyone seen a substantive lib/bad dem critique of corbyn beyond associating him with chavez or alleging he's antisemitic? I think about the only thing that I can see sticking is his association with Papadopoulos but nobody gives a poo poo about the Balkans really.
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Jul 14, 2017 21:16
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zegermans posted:well, here's a good substantive one Reducing your opposition's power is a win in most books, and there's likely to be another election next year for them for even more seats to win. Unlike some khaleesi that will remain unnamed who funneled DNC money into her spectacular loss. Thank god many Dems are going with Bernie in the direction of progress with DSA and Our Rev (and other movements) that are doing the right thing.
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Jul 14, 2017 21:19
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Better left wing candidates have to run for poo poo I haven't been impressed with the Our Revolution / Sanders endorsements, frankly
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Jul 14, 2017 21:21
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zeal posted:what i liked about obama was what a natural actor he was That was the day he became Presidential. So brave. I cry evrytiem.
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Jul 14, 2017 21:22
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:That was the day he became Presidential. So brave. I cry evrytiem. I loved the "But Hillary would have bombed even more and we would have liked that" takes from the usual suspects
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ThndrShk2k posted:He won by leading Labor into winning tons of MP seats. The dems picked up house and senate seats in 2016
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zegermans posted:The dems picked up house and senate seats in 2016 It was essentially a wash. Sad! Could've done way better, like the absolute boy did. e: Also state level seats they did bad. https://ballotpedia.org/State_legislative_elections,_2016 ThndrShk2k has issued a correction as of 21:47 on Jul 14, 2017 |
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GalacticAcid posted:we tortured some folks its too bad Shep didnt wake up after that one outburst
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got any sevens posted:its too bad Shep didnt wake up after that one outburst he dulls the cognitive dissonance with vampire dramas and the atlanta club scene
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ThndrShk2k posted:Barely any gains. dunno seems like Bernie had the chance to win and didnt also the dems weren't as far in the toilet as labour was. Now they're equally just powerful enough to not matter
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zegermans posted:dunno seems like Bernie had the chance to win and didnt Bernie didn't have enough support to win the primary last year, yes, but a poo poo ton has changed since then.
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Jul 14, 2017 21:51
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zegermans posted:dunno seems like Bernie had the chance to win and didnt Lets put it a different way: Unknown old socialist from Vermont comes out from his cave and contests a primary against the 'most qualified' candidate ever. Bernie Sanders doing so well against Hillary Clinton was a huge win for the movement. His 'chance' shouldn't have been as successful at being an opponent, but it was very successful despite his stumblings. By all metrics he shouldn't have even come close to contesting Hillary. Turns out Hillary... is bad! 
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its still bernies fault for not trying to appeal to people sooner. he was a nobody and that was his fault. it was likely the single largest problem he had during the campaign besides having a doofus run it early (but that was almost certainly because he had no money and no perceived chance).
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:Q: has anyone seen a substantive lib/bad dem critique of corbyn beyond associating him with chavez or alleging he's antisemitic? Liberals and centrists are incapable of substantive critique against leftists and thats why they dont do it
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anime was right posted:its still bernies fault for not trying to appeal to people sooner. he was a nobody and that was his fault. it was likely the single largest problem he had during the campaign besides having a doofus run it early (but that was almost certainly because he had no money and no perceived chance). actually, u'll find he's to blame for making people expect things of politicians
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Phi230 posted:Liberals and centrists are incapable of substantive critique against leftists and thats why they dont do it "they want to make your life BETTER with one easy trick while we want to add more adjustable tax credits based on multiple factors" is a bad way to win a fight, so yeah
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actually, you'll find that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EovzA6hejtM
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Condiv posted:actually, u'll find he's to blame for making people expect things of politicians It's Bernie's fault for giving new voters hope and /purity/ in expecting proper representation!
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ThndrShk2k posted:lol if you think going against Hillary and the DNC was a chance. weird how centrist losses are crushing defeats and progressive losses are actually valiant victories against the system
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Jul 14, 2017 22:06
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don't bother to explain parliamentary systems to americans, their bad political system has broken their brains
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zegermans posted:weird how centrist losses are crushing defeats and progressive losses are actually valiant victories against the system 
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Getting some vintage zegermans up here in this zone this afternoon~~~ Zeg, there's more to British elections than who ends up as prime minister, and taking away the Tories' outright majority when the reason they held the election at all was to increase it was a victory. Bernie's primary campaign was not a victory obv because it had exactly one goal, to get him the nomination, and it did not achieve that. But that is not relevant to the question of the British election.
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but where are the electoral college votes?? how do you gain seats and not have power?? gently caress to house of Windsor!!
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zegermans posted:weird how centrist losses are crushing defeats and progressive losses are actually valiant victories against the system To put things your way, we are just buying time until Sandersdar can harness both sides of the Khala and ram his carrier into the OverTRUMP.
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zegermans posted:weird how centrist losses are crushing defeats and progressive losses are actually valiant victories against the system Its almost like one side is an underdog and the other is the one with power and expected to win and be minimally competent
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loquacius posted:Getting some vintage zegermans up here in this zone this afternoon~~~ He knows and he's trolling. He's said as much tons of times. I don't know why people still respond to him.
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Nanomashoes posted:He knows and he's trolling. He's said as much tons of times. I don't know why people still respond to him. He stopped trolling for a while, and the thread got much better, but he's backsliding
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You know what else backslides Diarrhea Democrats are diarrhea
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