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Zoran posted:He argues that while people in that camp can have a very fine understanding of their ideals, they forget that committed racists and sexists have an even better feel for norms because they intentionally violate them all the time, and they'll happily twist those norms to silence their enemies. And the mechanisms for deciding what counts as bigotry have nothing to do with actually finding the truth or upholding some principle of tolerance; the only principle they actually rely on is the need to stop bad PR for the employer. You can kind of see a microcosm of this in internet forums/communities, where if you have fleshed-out rules on the kinds of things that are or aren't acceptable to say, it's the assholes who are going to figure out the cracks and nooks-and-crannies of that policy and will continue to be assholes while technically staying within the rules. And meanwhile it's the decent folk who are going to say "gently caress you" in frustration, and then they're the ones that get banned, and your whole community goes down the shitter.
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zegermans posted:I'm too sleep deprived to read all that can I get a tldr Accusations of sexism and racism are reactionary. Exhibit A is you 
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Jul 15, 2017 06:58
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where can I buy those tactical pens
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Jul 15, 2017 07:49
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logikv9 posted:where can I buy those tactical pens when you buy a tactical sharpie you are also buying the dream of drawing dicks on someone
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Jul 15, 2017 07:51
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Jul 15, 2017 10:34
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It always comes back to anime.
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Jul 15, 2017 12:11
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https://twitter.com/lhfang/status/885952655373221888
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Jul 15, 2017 12:19
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Attorneys are shitheads, news at 11.
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Jul 15, 2017 12:29
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it's the where's Waldo of presidential rapists
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Jul 15, 2017 13:46
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zegermans posted:Is he one of those "PR campaigns to get racists fired are actually bad" people? the power rangers would prob campaign to change the racists ways, of racisn
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Jul 15, 2017 13:46
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was selma named when someone w dyslexia tried to name it salem
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Jul 15, 2017 13:49
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zegermans posted:I'm too sleep deprived to read all that can I get a tldr basically, companies are not beholden to racial justice or any kind of equity, and rather fire employees if it looks like they might hurt their pocketbook. doxxing and reporting racists to get them fired seems like a good idea until you realize the right is way better at cooking up outrage than the center, and will likely turn this tactic against us.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:it's the where's Waldo of presidential rapists https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42D_LJB30eY
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Jul 15, 2017 13:58
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if left wing hiring decisions weren't based on politics, this guy would be on SNL ^
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Jul 15, 2017 14:00
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Jul 15, 2017 15:40
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:dae realize these anti capitalists wear clothes they didn't make?? dae realize in the context where you can build and use a guillotine without being massacred by police/pinkertons that the united states dollar wont really mean anything
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Jul 15, 2017 15:51
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Condiv posted:basically, companies are not beholden to racial justice or any kind of equity, and rather fire employees if it looks like they might hurt their pocketbook. doxxing and reporting racists to get them fired seems like a good idea until you realize the right is way better at cooking up outrage than the center, and will likely turn this tactic against us. I feel like this argument would be more persuasive if there were actually a reasonable number of examples of either people being fired for saying/doing things that weren't actually terrible or the right turning this tactic against people in the method described. But in practice I'm not sure there's ever been one of these situations where 1. the person fired wasn't actually a total shitheel or 2. there was some repercussions for wrongfully terminating them. edit: The assumption that the right would be less likely to use these tactics if the left didn't use them also seems highly questionable.
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got any sevens posted:can we bury the hatchet What if the hatchet has a GPS tag embedded in the handle? You dont want to create a minefield of hatchet geocaches, that will only make the post-gun world more dangerous
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The right already uses it based off from religion and cultural beliefs, which is highly unsuccessful in modern times(was very successful in the past) compared to the left's use of them to justify social ostracisation which to the right seems like a frivolous use since their social beliefs are those based off from religion and cultural beliefs while the left's social beliefs are what makes them feel good. The two sides sounding like the same thing isn't a coincidence because it is the same thing from the relative perspective of the person. The belief is the more the left uses it frivolously the more the right will jump on a valid chance to use it frivolously with vitriol of social revenge. This isn't specifically unique to such realms of social justice since people love to right wrongs all the time, but it is a thing that would seem dangerous if one wanted to keep the scales unbalanced in whatever directly complies with their beliefs of what is correct and just. Basically if you ain't some sort of face of a company via sponsorship or marketing personality then whatever you say outside of work should not reflect your employer's views and the employer should not be beholden to social pressure to fire a grunt because the grunt is an rear end in a top hat outside of work. People are assholes, big woop.
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https://twitter.com/joeprince___/status/885631802102120449 Like I know Sanders is essentially invincible in Vermont, making these challengers laughable to begin with, but gently caress if it isn't funny seeing this poo poo get dug up on them. there's a couple of other lol things in that thread, as well
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Oh Snapple! posted:https://twitter.com/joeprince___/status/885631802102120449 remember when it was leftists who were the real racists/sexists/transphobes?
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Ytlaya posted:edit: The assumption that the right would be less likely to use these tactics if the left didn't use them also seems highly questionable. If company's weren't allowed to fire people on a whim, or even better, were beholden by law to the first amendment, these tactics wouldn't be available.
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Ytlaya posted:I feel like this argument would be more persuasive if there were actually a reasonable number of examples of either people being fired for saying/doing things that weren't actually terrible or the right turning this tactic against people in the method described. But in practice I'm not sure there's ever been one of these situations where 1. the person fired wasn't actually a total shitheel or 2. there was some repercussions for wrongfully terminating them. the way I see it going is: *zegglemans on twitter* "trump loving sucks and his rear end can barely fit inside air force one" *two days later on fox news* "It turns out twitter user zegermens is actually John Doe Hillaryman of bumfuck Idaho, working for Tyson's chicken. does Tyson chicken know they are employing a fetlife regular that gets off on being put in a garbage bag of thinkyface onesies and getting the poo poo kicked out of him? more on this at 6" *zegglemang is forced to move back to New York to work for the yankees* Condiv has issued a correction as of 17:05 on Jul 15, 2017 |
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Jul 15, 2017 17:03
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https://www.spectator.co.uk/2017/07/why-jacob-rees-mogg-should-be-the-next-tory-leader/
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Jul 15, 2017 17:10
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Jul 15, 2017 17:21
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:dae realize these anti capitalists wear clothes they didn't make?? https://twitter.com/LeftistFoxbutt/status/885976767764111360
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Dreylad posted:https://www.spectator.co.uk/2017/07/why-jacob-rees-mogg-should-be-the-next-tory-leader/ 
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Jul 15, 2017 17:23
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Jul 15, 2017 17:23
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The only charm Mogg has is as a version of john oliver with no self awareness, he's just as incompetent as the rest. Their only alternative is a buffoon with crazy yellow hair that has a cemented in reputation as an idiot, so i cant blame them for trying to avoid oneupping america
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Jul 15, 2017 17:37
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that mogg guy is in dire need of an atomic wedgie
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Jul 15, 2017 17:48
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Neurolimal posted:The only charm Mogg has is as a version of john oliver with no self awareness, he's just as incompetent as the rest. what in the world is that ct
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Jul 15, 2017 17:49
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Jul 15, 2017 17:51
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http://www.chicagonow.com/politics-now/2017/07/44-years-a-republican-1-year-an-independent-today-im-joining-the-democratic-party/ in like 5 or 10 years the democrats are going to split into two parties because of republicans joining it quote:This was not an easy step. In the 80s, I was an advocate of trickle- down economics as the solution to our economic ills. It is hard to admit I was wrong. The theory sounds nice, but as evidence has shown, it is a myth. Educated Republicans understand income distribution is out of whack and are seeking ways of correcting the ill. They are running up against the rank ignorance brought into the party and exploited by the party.
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Neurolimal posted:What if the hatchet has a GPS tag embedded in the handle? You dont want to create a minefield of hatchet geocaches, that will only make the post-gun world more dangerous https://youtu.be/MskPriIm7UE
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