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BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747
i have read six pages of the first zaurg thread and i want to strangle the world. what the gently caress

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Virtue
Jan 7, 2009

How do you spend 8.3k a month in living expenses? Inb4 someone says renting a bay area trashcan

Droo
Jun 25, 2003

Virtue posted:

How do you spend 8.3k a month in living expenses? Inb4 someone says renting a bay area trashcan

7 figure house, two kids in private school, golf club membership, two $50k cars, etc.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Virtue posted:

How do you spend 8.3k a month in living expenses? Inb4 someone says renting a bay area trashcan

Having your guillotine custom made

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Blinkman987 posted:

Like anything, you really have to know the market. Shoes can be very GWM but:

1 - On most retro Jordans, you're maybe making $30-$40 per shoe before eBay fees if you're looking to flip day 1.
2 - If you buy the wrong pairs, you're hosed as some shoe stores won't let you return quickstrike (the name for that tier of rarity/release) releases and now you're sitting on a few hundred dollars of Jordan Raptor 7s or unwanted Foams and taking a loss.
3 - Every person you deal with is some wannabe hustler and thinks of themselves in that way. It's loving annoying. Imagine you had a job that only sold to finance bros. It's kinda like that.
4 - You either need to be really lucky or have a hookup for the real profitable stuff. Tech nerds could've leveraged their Twitter bots in the past, but now all crazy hyped stuff goes through SNKRS app for Nike. Not sure about Yeezys. Those might still be exploitable.
5 - Shoe equity is all reliant on someone somewhere being willing to pay an exorbitant amount of money on rare sneakers, specifically your pair of rare sneakers, from all the other sneakers in the world. Are you willing to be the guy sitting on a pair of sneakers from 2011 and insisting you get your $850 for them that may never materialize?

I'm wondering when the market will bottom out on most of these sneakers the way that the market bottomed out on comics a few years back.

Hello I work at a comic shop, comics are my favorite BWM thing because every employee boggles at the guy who buys ten copies of walking dead every month without fail. When people ask how to speculate we start giggling uncontrollably. If you invest in comics I hope you go bankrupt because you deserve it.

See also: MtG cards

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

.
Back when you could only find things at trade shows or the one store in town you thought all those baseball cards and comics were rare. Once ebay came around you found out that literally thousands and thousands of them are out there and there's always someone that will sell it for less than the other guy. If you're looking at your ow worthless comic collection from 1992, blame the internet.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Solice Kirsk posted:

Back when you could only find things at trade shows or the one store in town you thought all those baseball cards and comics were rare. Once ebay came around you found out that literally thousands and thousands of them are out there and there's always someone that will sell it for less than the other guy. If you're looking at your ow worthless comic collection from 1992, blame the internet.

Wrong

What happened was in the 90s there was a spate of stories about people selling old comics for what seem like insane amounts of money until you realize that a) it was something like the first appearance of Batman and b) there's maybe a hundred copies in decent shape, anywhere. But people in the 90s didn't think about the whole scarcity thing, so they started buying up multiple copies of things and trying to flip them and the industry itself right up to the publishers encouraged it. Wizards entire hook was it's price guides, and Marvel/Dc published a million SPECIAL COLLECTORS ISSUE things

Then everyone tried to flip all this poo poo at once to cash in and that whole scarcity thing kicked in and it turns out that when a million people own something in fantastic condition it's not worth as much as something a thousand people own that is much more likely to be trashed from age

It's like tulips or beanie babies, except there was an actual thing to kick it off that made sense and then everyone almost died at the end

Also there ARE newer comics that are still worth money. Walking Dead is a prime example, because until five or six years ago it had fairly small print runs, and the first ten or twenty had incredibly tiny ones. Those sorts of things are the exception to the rule and trying to spot them coming is a fools game

BENGHAZI 2 fucked around with this message at 22:57 on Jul 15, 2017

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747
Fun fact if you brinf me a copy of X-Men #1 or Death of Superman from the 90s and ask what it's worth I will not get in trouble with my boss for just cackling hysterically and calling other employees out and asking you to repeat it for them

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

.
So it was caused by the industry itself? Huh.

Droo
Jun 25, 2003

BENGHAZI 2 posted:

Wizards entire hook was it's price guides, and Marvel/Dc published a million SPECIAL COLLECTORS ISSUE things

I think I sold the ~$700 worth of Alpha/Beta M:TG cards that my dad bought in the 90's for at least $20,000.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Solice Kirsk posted:

So it was caused by the industry itself? Huh.

It's fifty fifty split between the industry and the people who bought in initially but yeah. The 90s we're also a weird period in a couple other ways. It was the era of the superstar artist, with guys like Todd MacFarlane and Rob Liefeld selling original art for more than they got paid for their actual books and the companies (mostly marvel) hyping and selling books based just on their names being attached, which also helped drive the bubble put of control. Then those artists split off and formed Image, which set off another bubble but for indie comics and oh God it was just a mess

The 90s were such a poo poo show that the industry still hasn't recovered from it, in basically any sense

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Droo posted:

I think I sold the ~$700 worth of Alpha/Beta M:TG cards that my dad bought in the 90's for at least $20,000.

That's a little different? Theres a very finite amount of A/B in existence (they were actually limited release sets) and the rarer cards in those sets are made even rarer by that. Add to it that those are generally the most broken (Power 9) or widely used (dual lands) in those sets, and A/B selling for money isn't absurd

For context I'm pretty sure there's less Alpha cards in existence than copies of X-Men #1 from the 90s

Fake edit this also doesn't get into the whole secondary market being influenced by the meta game and supply and demand of newer sets being almost entirely dicorved from older stuff but yeah Magic as investment is dumb but it's not a 1:1 comparison between that and 90s comics

Source: my shop also sells magic and the history of it and the economic side of it fascinates me

Actual edit there are exactly 2.6 million cards printed as part of Alpha, and then you have to break that down by 300 cards at differing rarities. There are exactly 1100 of each of the rares in existence.

BENGHAZI 2 fucked around with this message at 23:18 on Jul 15, 2017

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster
TIME magazine has a list of the average cost of the 3 biggest (non-medical) purchases Americans made in 2016.

1) House - $332,700
2) Car - $37,560
3) Wedding - $34,522

Americans are bad with cars and weddings.

Houses too, but less so depending on the area.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
Hey, at least an education wasn't on the list.

Or a horse.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747
can you really put a price on a horse

Ixian
Oct 9, 2001

Many machines on Ix....new machines
Pillbug

Krispy Kareem posted:

Hey, at least an education wasn't on the list.

Or a horse.

Education isn't on the list because most people didn't "buy" it, they borrowed all the money from a group of institutions that spread the payments to the point where you can spend your entire life making them in exchange for an intangible return and are exempt from every debt collection law in the land. They are a Very Special kind of debt.

It's a huge bullet that I didn't realize I had dodged when I was younger. Thankful for that at least.

April
Jul 3, 2006


Crippling medical bills are totally a thing, so we probably shouldn't make fun of --

quote:

Hi Reddit,
Throwaway account just to distance this from the rest of my reddit life, primarily out of shame. Long time reader/lurker on my main account. This is a crazy long post but ultimately I am looking for some financial advice that can hopefully give me some sense that even though there isn't an easy out, at least there's a path forward and some options. TL;DR esque section at the end.

I've been the primary provider for my girlfriend and myself for the past two to three years. I moved cross country to live with her and her grandparents and pretty quickly got a job that paid much better than I was making earlier. Salary is now at around 61k USD and did not change much since becoming full time late 2015.

We do not pay rent living with her parents which is a huge relief. However, my girlfriend has quite a few medical and health requirements that get to be expensive. In my view this is the biggest strain even with insurance since it's not always covered.
Some examples: + She saw a specialist across the country. Visit itself was 1500 not including the flight and hotel.

Regular IV nutrition visits she undertakes, a package costing around 1300, providing about 10 visits.

Weekly colonics for a gastrointestinal condition (60 per visit)

Homeopathic dr for mental health issues at $150 per visit.


There's more but ultimately this along with poorly managed daily expenses has resulted in now a second event where I have allowed a credit card to balloon out of control primarily out of fear about being honest and admitting to her that I don't make enough to cover the costs as much as I want to be able to out of love and support. Both instances led to about 5-6k stacking up on a credit card unbeknownst to her. After the first time we got through, lived lean for a year and eventually paid it down. Then it all started again with the 1500 specialist visit. I agreed that only that visit would go on it and we would make payments. But I didn't. I tell myself and her that it was to keep up with the other expenses and day to day stuff but who knows. Eventually it got out last night that the amount has stacked up again over the course of this year, hitting about 5k again. Make matters worse I took out another credit card at 0% interest to cover some academic/professional trips she wanted to do, which we agreed to and would be paid off by some scholarships she was awarded. The catalyst here was that she recently learned that she missed a deadline for financial aid and would now have to pony up another 6k to cover the tuition this year. Forget the fact that she has cc debt as well that her parents owe repayment on. Not sure if the relationship has a future considering the current state but I'd still really appreciate some advice on how to manage at least just my own incurred debt. If it helps I can hopefully work with her to sort out what's left between us.

TLDR - I racked up a bunch of cc debt supporting the medical and life expenses of a gf I may no longer have and am looking for options on how to sort it all out. Some straight numbers :

61k a year salary before taxes

Three credit cards

Discover with about $500

Wells Fargo with a little under $6k

Citibank (new one @ 0 interest) @ $1400

Student loans on deferment at the moment totaling around $18k

No rent now but if we break up and I move out then I will have to start paying that as well.

I realize this is a clusterfuck but any insight or information on how I can tackle this would be appreciated. Let me know if knowing any other details would be helpful.
Thanks a lot!

https://www.reddit.com/r/personalfinance/comments/6nhi6k/pretty_much_screwed_everything_uplooking_for/?st=j55yh79c&sh=15683103

hailthefish
Oct 24, 2010

If his girlfriend was a horse I'd recommend a glue factory.

April
Jul 3, 2006


hailthefish posted:

If his girlfriend was a horse I'd recommend a glue factory.

If there's any bright spot in that giant mess, it's that he seems to think that the girlfriend isn't going to be around much longer. Hopefully he can unfuck himself once they break up.

Ixian
Oct 9, 2001

Many machines on Ix....new machines
Pillbug

April posted:

If there's any bright spot in that giant mess, it's that he seems to think that the girlfriend isn't going to be around much longer. Hopefully he can unfuck himself once they break up.

He will as soon as he realizes his girlfriend is costing him more than rent.

hailthefish
Oct 24, 2010

His biggest problem is that he put a bunch of poo poo for her on his credit cards and that won't magically go away once they break up but at least it won't keep getting worse.

Guest2553
Aug 3, 2012


At least fence guy could probably find a way to legally rip that sumbitch out of the ground.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Droo posted:

I think I sold the ~$700 worth of Alpha/Beta M:TG cards that my dad bought in the 90's for at least $20,000.

I was watching storage wars idly a while ago and one of the things they "found" in the storage unit was that one magic card that's supposedly worth like $2 million and then the "expert" that valued it said he'd give them something like a whole $5000 for it!!


I mean I know that show's been completely staged since like season 2 with one unit having "the good items" added to it ahead of time by the TV crew but I still thought it was pretty funny :v:

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Also I'm not saying there's a bad derail happening or anything but here's what a toucan looks like when it's asleep:



:kimchi:

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

ate all the Oreos posted:

I was watching storage wars idly a while ago and one of the things they "found" in the storage unit was that one magic card that's supposedly worth like $2 million and then the "expert" that valued it said he'd give them something like a whole $5000 for it!!


I mean I know that show's been completely staged since like season 2 with one unit having "the good items" added to it ahead of time by the TV crew but I still thought it was pretty funny :v:

Uh excuse me sir five grand is a perfectly reasonable price for an Unlimited Black Lotus

-- an actual thought my brain had as soon as I read this

Foma
Oct 1, 2004
Hello, My name is Lip Synch. Right now, I'm making a post that is anti-bush or something Micheal Moore would be proud of because I and the rest of my team lefty friends (koba1t included) need something to circle jerk to.
http://www.businessinsider.com/millennials-home-buying-crowdfunding-fundrise-efund-2017-7

quote:

According to a recent survey by Apartment List, 80% of millennials — defined as those born between 1980 and 1995 — say they want to buy a home, but most have less than $1,000 saved a for a down payment.
...


quote:

It's sort of like crowdfunding for homes: Prospective homebuyers purchase shares (a minimum investment is 100 shares, currently $10 each), the sum of which funds housing renovations and new developments in their city. These investors then get notified through the "eFund Pool" about finished homes, which are offered at up to a 10% lower price than it would be if they were going through a broker

pay upfront for a chance to win a home at a slight discount. Who buys into this?

Haifisch
Nov 13, 2010

Objection! I object! That was... objectionable!



Taco Defender

Foma posted:

http://www.businessinsider.com/millennials-home-buying-crowdfunding-fundrise-efund-2017-7
...


pay upfront for a chance to win a home at a slight discount. Who buys into this?

quote:

For many American millennials, buying a new home in a city like Los Angeles or Washington DC can seem like a pipe dream.
People dumb enough that they have to buy single family housing in the middle of a big city, instead of renting or moving out to the burbs like normal people.

(Or buying a condo in a dense development, but that's pretty damned expensive too)

Haifisch fucked around with this message at 18:38 on Jul 16, 2017

Pryor on Fire
May 14, 2013

they don't know all alien abduction experiences can be explained by people thinking saving private ryan was a documentary

The stigma associated with condos/townhomes is really loving stupid, you can raise a family in an apartment it doesn't mean you're a loser. There are some indications that people are coming around on this (or literally just nothing else is available) and condos are starting to see some atypically large appreciation in prices in certain areas.

Pryor on Fire fucked around with this message at 19:35 on Jul 16, 2017

Enfys
Feb 17, 2013

The ocean is calling and I must go

Hmmmmm

[Ogden, UT] I found out my boyfriend has several suitcases and travel bags filled with bundles of money, is this really suspicious?

quote:

Background
Feel free to skip this part if you don't want any background and just want the gist. Basically, I grew up in a very traditional and somewhat sheltered household, but I've since moved out of that area and moved to Ogden three years ago. My parents were always worried about me moving to Ogden because, well, I honestly think they're racist. I still am in contact with my parents.

I've been dating this really great Hispanic guy who treats me very well. My parents, especially my mother really don't approve of him, because as I said they're pretty racist. But things have been going really well between me and him. I am currently living with him because I'm trying to get a job that I like.

Legal Problem
So, basically, a couple days ago I was looking for a certain pair of shoes, and I ended up looking in his closet. In it, there were multiple like suitcases and travel bags that I'd never really seen before. I am a very snoopy person just by nature, and I ended up looking through one of the travel bags because it looked absolutely stuffed.

When I opened it, there were like all of these bundles of cash all kind of wrapped up in fat little bundles, mostly 20s I think. I was of course, surprised, and I ended up looking through the closet and found more bags and suitcases that also had a bunch of cash in it.
Long story short, I ended up asking him about it, and kind of got a bit defensive and tried to brush it off saying he doesn't like to put money in banks and that it's nothing to worry about. I know that he owns an antique store, but I don't know how much money that usually makes. He asked me not to go through his stuff in the future and not to worry about it.

I mentioned it in passing to my mom about it later on one of her usual phone calls, and she got upset and said that it was a giant red flag and it means he's selling drugs and killing people and that I should report him to the police or something. I talked to one of my friends about it, and they said it's a red flag to.

As I said, I had a very sheltered childhood and I wouldn't really know. Is my mom just being paranoid, is this a thing? I really don't want to get this guy in trouble because he's very nice. If so, what should I do now?

Maybe he also read the advice in the title?

pathetic little tramp
Dec 12, 2005

by Hillary Clinton's assassins
Fallen Rib
L:ol my parents are worried about moving to Ogden Utah because of all the blacks.

omnibobb
Dec 3, 2005
Title text'd


To be fair to her parents, she moved and started dating a drug dealer.

GamingHyena
Jul 25, 2003

Devil's Advocate

omnibobb posted:

To be fair to her parents, she moved and started dating a drug dealer.

It's true, I have a lot of friends in politics, but they wouldn't be friendly very long if they knew my business was antiques instead of gambling, which they regard as a – a harmless vice. But antiques is a dirty business. It makes, it doesn't make any difference to me what a man does for a living, understand. But your business is, uh, a little dangerous.

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



Considering it's Utah I would put even odds on illegal activity or survivalist.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
Sister wife Underground Railroad is my guess.

He’s the Harriet Tubman of his generation.

theHUNGERian
Feb 23, 2006

GamingHyena posted:

Not her husband.

:thurman:

Pryor on Fire
May 14, 2013

they don't know all alien abduction experiences can be explained by people thinking saving private ryan was a documentary

You guys know very little of the mountain west, drug dealer for sure.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

quote:

Is everyone (and their husbands) who attends DeVry a retard who ends up with a boatload of debt and nothing to benefit from it?

Zaurg thread one delivers

Edit


quote:

I better mention this now. I have a ticket to this week's football game and was considering renting a car and going with a friend. We'd come back home after the game instead of getting a hotel. Cost for car, gas, and food would run in the $60-80 range. The problem is I'm already at $59 for October in my "Personal" budget. 

I think I'll go anyway and rationalize it like this... during Jan-Jul when I'm not going to football games my "Personal" expenses are much lower. So if I average it out over the whole year... I should be able to make the budget of $75/month. 
The sound to hear is me screaming to an uncaring god

BENGHAZI 2 fucked around with this message at 01:32 on Jul 17, 2017

Tiny Brontosaurus
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax

Haifisch posted:

People dumb enough that they have to buy single family housing in the middle of a big city, instead of renting or moving out to the burbs like normal people.

(Or buying a condo in a dense development, but that's pretty damned expensive too)

LA doesn't have a "the burbs" anymore. Houses don't get cheap enough to buy on a normal middle-class double-income budget until you're a three-hour commute away.

Pryor on Fire posted:

The stigma associated with condos/townhomes is really loving stupid, you can raise a family in an apartment it doesn't mean you're a loser. There are some indications that people are coming around on this (or literally just nothing else is available) and condos are starting to see some atypically large appreciation in prices in certain areas.

I think it's less a stigma thing and more that apartments designed for a family with kids to live in are vanishingly rare in large cities. Pretty much all apartments in LA at any price range have horribly cramped kitchens and bathrooms, and the rent on anything with more than two bedrooms is enough to buy a mansion in other parts of the country. Condos are absolutely not designed to be family-friendly - they're usually "open plan" and therefore a really loud place to have kids playing, and the kitchens are all showy fixtures and terrible workflow, because they assume no one will do more than microwave takeout leftovers in there.

Haifisch
Nov 13, 2010

Objection! I object! That was... objectionable!



Taco Defender

Tiny Brontosaurus posted:

I think it's less a stigma thing and more that apartments designed for a family with kids to live in are vanishingly rare in large cities. Pretty much all apartments in LA at any price range have horribly cramped kitchens and bathrooms, and the rent on anything with more than two bedrooms is enough to buy a mansion in other parts of the country. Condos are absolutely not designed to be family-friendly - they're usually "open plan" and therefore a really loud place to have kids playing, and the kitchens are all showy fixtures and terrible workflow, because they assume no one will do more than microwave takeout leftovers in there.
I'm in suburbia and you see the same thing, and it's just assumed you'll buy a house once you have kids. I assume the core of the problem is that apartments big enough for families(and/or ones with actually usable kitchens) don't scale well with the price/sqft developers & landlords expect. And it stays that way because people think you need a ten bedroom mcmansion to have enough space for 1.5 kids, so there's not enough market pressure on the other end.

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Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Tiny Brontosaurus posted:

I think it's less a stigma thing and more that apartments designed for a family with kids to live in are vanishingly rare in large cities.

Apartments are designed to appeal to single young people which means a bunch of them move in and create a stigma against older people with families which means less older people with families get apartments meaning the market research says to design apartments for single young people which creates a stigma... etc.

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