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logikv9 posted:if the democraticunderground forums have this much weight why hasn't c-spam made Jeb! president! Of the turtles yet His brother could have been a good baseball commissioner Newt Gingrich could have been an awesome zookeeper Jeb Bush could have been the Ceasar of all turtles How life works out
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NYT posted:The senator had already taken some grief last year for purchasing a $575,000 vacation home on Lake Champlain, to complement his house in Burlington and his rowhouse on Capitol Hill. 
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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:Who is the biggest Bernie smearer? i'm pretty that king james the second guy already dipped into blood libel, at the very least he accused bernie of being a christ killer
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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:Who is the biggest Bernie smearer? in terms of actual journos it absolutely has to be capeheart
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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:Who is the biggest Bernie smearer? Jon Capehart was the sleaziest one, unless I'm forgetting something even worse.
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Does capeheart get posted here? Really only familiar with Joy.
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Willa Rogers posted:and now that bad dems faced ridicule for backing that nutbag bernie challenger in VT they've decided to tout howard dean to challenge bernie: https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=9317423 dean is also a vermont superdelegate who voted for hillary even though vermont went > 85% for sanders in the popular vote
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I've only heard wonderful things about Bruce Rappaport.
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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:Does capeheart get posted here? Really only familiar with Joy. I'm not sure if he still takes shots at Bernie now that the primary is long in the past. Joan Walsh and Joy Reid have been the killer Bad Dem tag team lately for sure.
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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:Does capeheart get posted here? Really only familiar with Joy. capeheart made his name in the primary, Reid is definitely the foremost media hill shill these days
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Raskolnikov38 posted:those blog posts from '08 where reid calls hillary crazy were The hierarchy of idpol
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zeal posted:capeheart made his name in the primary, Reid is definitely the foremost media hill shill these days but boy what a name he made
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comedyblissoption posted:dean went on a string of tv media appearances attacking sanders and single payer healthcare and in 2009-10 he was claiming that the ACA shouldn't be passed w/out an opt-in for medicare for those who wanted it. but I will always have a bit of a soft spot in my heart for dean, bc after I donated 80 hours/week to his campaign in 2003-04 and fundraised for him, and then discovered that joe trippi was making mad coin from using 99 percent of the donations for his media firm, the scales fell from my eyes and I saw Bad Dems for who they were. granted, it took the 2007-08 cycle (and fundraising for obama, then switching my vote to clinton after obama mealy-mouthed healthcare reform) before I totally broke the habit of voting bad-dem, but dean was the initial catalyst. 
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this criticism is never leveraged at the dozens of politicians with more and more expensive houses, of course.
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Willa Rogers posted:and in 2009-10 he was claiming that the ACA shouldn't be passed w/out an opt-in for medicare for those who wanted it. dean seemed like a genuine dude but whatever soul he had was ripped from him and chewed into a pulpy mass, then swallowed by our terrible political system
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Raskolnikov38 posted:those blog posts from '08 where reid calls hillary crazy were that book "game change" about the 2008 election said that reid & former-house-leader-turned-healthcare-lobbyist tom daschle specifically and strategically picked obama the "well-spoken negro" to run against clinton.
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Willa Rogers posted:that book "game change" about the 2008 election said that reid & former-house-leader-turned-healthcare-lobbyist tom daschle specifically and strategically picked obama the "well-spoken negro" to run against clinton. I think all bad dem dem origin starts with deciding to become like a lobbyist for big money interests such as wall street banks or big pharma. Remember how much Barney Frank hates Bernie but hopes people overlook how he became a shill for the finance sector interests?
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Willa Rogers posted:that book "game change" about the 2008 election said that reid & former-house-leader-turned-healthcare-lobbyist tom daschle specifically and strategically picked obama the "well-spoken negro" to run against clinton. oh i was talking about joy reid
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etalian posted:I think all bad dem dem origin starts with deciding to become like a lobbyist for big money interests such as wall street banks or big pharma. the funniest obama line from 2008 was how he was gonna stop the revolving door between those who served in his administration and their private gigs afterward. hence marilyn tavenner running CMS during the obamacare rollout then swiftly exiting to become exec director of the insurance industry's lobbying group. Raskolnikov38 posted:oh i was talking about joy reid lol.
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bad dems in 2009-10: "the insurance industry HATES obamacare, pinky-swear!" bad dems in 2015: "let's ignore that the woman in charge of the obamacare rollout for the obama administration became the insurance industry's chief lobbyist"
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The Problem Solvers Caucus was introduced to me today, and it sounds like they're going to be getting a lot more press coverage than the Progressive caucus. http://www.npr.org/2017/07/13/536899595/democrats-prepare-for-a-hard-bargain-on-health-care-if-gop-bill-fails
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anime was right posted:dean seemed like a genuine dude but whatever soul he had was ripped from him and chewed into a pulpy mass, then swallowed by our terrible political system
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Svitavsky is just the garden variety crank of the type that runs against Bernie every time. Bernie's only had a real Democratic challenger once, but there's always someone on the ballot as a Democrat against him. He's only getting attention this time because of the weird clique on twitter who are desperate to prove that Bernie is hated by Vermonters (he is not) and should just b ignored.
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Joementum posted:Svitavsky is just the garden variety crank of the type that runs against Bernie every time. Bernie's only had a real Democratic challenger once, but there's always someone on the ballot as a Democrat against him. He's only getting attention this time because of the weird clique on twitter who are desperate to prove that Bernie is hated by Vermonters (he is not) and should just b ignored. today i tweeted a joke about karl marx at friend of the thread marcus johnson and he quote tweeted me with something about vermont single payer. people are desperate to bring up bernie at every opportunity and it is reminiscent of how some people on the left are eager to bring hillary clinton into every conversation and it weirds me out
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Willa Rogers posted:that book "game change" about the 2008 election said that reid & former-house-leader-turned-healthcare-lobbyist tom daschle specifically and strategically picked obama the "well-spoken negro" to run against clinton. was this good (clinton is bad) or bad (obama is bad)?
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I'm getting bored so I will find True Democrats and their twitter profiles like : Nasty Woman Feminist, Animal Lover, Truth Seeker, GOP denier, Justice Warrior, Nature Dreamer, Fellow Human Being
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:was this good (clinton is bad) or bad (obama is bad)? funny and should've been a warning sign
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Vermont's single payer plan would have raised payroll taxes by 11-15%. It needed to be funded by a payroll tax because that's the only way that the plans would be considered as non taxable income. That's the reason it didn't work. It's also the reason I'm skeptical that state based single payer is feasible without Congress changing tax law, but still think California should give it a shot b cause they can probably do it and have little to lose by trying.
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Hillary 🌹is my hero ISHA meditator I am mother to🚶🏼💃🦅🌎🌈in yoga this 🙏🏽means we are one . please no LIST / berners/ trumpers . #FBR . 🌹🌹🌹🙏🏽
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Joementum posted:Vermont's single payer plan would have raised payroll taxes by 11-15%. It needed to be funded by a payroll tax because that's the only way that the plans would be considered as non taxable income. That's the reason it didn't work. im reasonably certain that with all the money the wealthy are hoarding we could implement single payer without raising taxes
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HiHo ChiRho posted:Hillary 🌹is my hero ISHA meditator I am mother to🚶🏼💃🦅🌎🌈in yoga this 🙏🏽means we are one . please no LIST / berners/ trumpers . #FBR . 🌹🌹🌹🙏🏽 
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Serf posted:im reasonably certain that with all the money the wealthy are hoarding we could implement single payer without raising taxes I agree, but the hoard of wealth in Vermont was probably not sufficient.
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