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Sad King Billy posted:I think Chibnall running the show will be a bigger problem. I still hold out hope, his scripts have never been the best on Who but he's always been aping somebody else's style, and season one of Broadchurch really was excellent. True season 2 went off a cliff quality wise, but I still don't know if that was down to his qualities as a showrunner or because the first season was such a hit that ITV decided last minute to make a second even though everything was wrapped up so nicely, and he had to scramble to come up with a new season. By many accounts season 3 was far better and he would have had more time to develop that. I mean maybe it'll be the often bland, sometimes good but then stumbles at the end stuff he'd been producing for RTD and Moffat, but I prefer to be optimistic about it. He is taking a writers' room approach to the show, he's demonstrated he can run a show effectively (one of Moffat's biggest criticisms) and whoever his casting director is has impeccable taste, and they already nailed the choice for the new Doctor. I have hope 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tp_Fw5oDMao&t=1034s
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I hope they don't just hand wave this away as something that happens all the time, because statistically speaking it's really unlikely for you to regenerate 12 times into a man if it really is 50/50 that you'll be a woman. Either way, Missy was cool. Looking forward to this either way. The little clip of her key and Tardis magically appearing in a happy forest didn't feel like Doctor Who, but it was probably the best they could do without having this leak months ago. I'm sure her actual look will be very different.
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I hear reddit r/doctorwho is full of meltdowns. But I don't want to dredge through that shithole to get the good stuff so I'll leave that to people braver than me.
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Meltdowns, get your meltdowns here! https://twitter.com/mjrobbins/status/886610394827173888 Meltdowns, hot off the presses!
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Sad King Billy posted:I think Chibnall running the show will be a bigger problem. Yeah, everyone seems to have forgotten Camelot and the first season of Torchwood.
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*dips pinkie n it and licks* oh yeah, that's pure refined Six you got there
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I've watched this show all my life and I can't even imagine how somebody could be a fan and still think,"No everything has to stay the same forever or it's not going to be any good!" It's baffling.
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Chokes McGee posted:*dips pinkie n it and licks* oh yeah, that's pure refined Six you got there God I wish I'd saved that tweet where McGann paid tribute to a woman freedom fighter from the past, somebody ripped into him for it and McGann just mercilessly put him down in pure 8 fashion 
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Jerusalem posted:I've watched this show all my life and I can't even imagine how somebody could be a fan and still think,"No everything has to stay the same forever or it's not going to be any good!" They're incredibly sexist. Just really, really sexist. Poor dears. The future is all girl after all. 
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jivjov posted:Meltdowns, get your meltdowns here! *tips you a quid or whatever it is you Brits use* piping hot my man, well done
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It's true, for example I am a woman and I'm delighted, so I am easy to manipulate. Won't a man tell me what I should think? WOMEN. KNOW YOUR LIMITS. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LS37SNYjg8w
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Before I say this, I am gonna just preface it with that I couldnt care less if the doctor was a woman or not, so long as they are good I am good. My facebook and twitter feed is full of people all going "LOOK AT ALL THE MALE TEARS"... but Honestly? I havent see any of that. All I see on my twitter feed is people either talking about male tears or saying how good Jodie Whittacker is. Am I just following the wrong/right people or are people kind of gloating about an extreme minority they imagine to be much bigger?
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I'm the Yankeest of yanks. Gimme dollars
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FiftySeven posted:Before I say this, I am gonna just preface it with that I couldnt care less if the doctor was a woman or not, so long as they are good I am good. Go look at the public comments on the Facebook announcement or the public replies to the tweet. SO MANY TEARS.
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Chokes McGee posted:I'm sure the burn in time will result in ~hijinks~ which is worrisome as post regeneration episodes are almost all uniformly terrible This is a reputation largely down to the Twin Dilemma being so awful. There's only a couple of real stinkers, most of em (like Robot) are fine. Two, the first two, are truly excellent.
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FiftySeven posted:Before I say this, I am gonna just preface it with that I couldnt care less if the doctor was a woman or not, so long as they are good I am good. Just read the comments on the official twitter announcement. The tears start flowing immediately!
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Yeah, Power of the Daleks and Spearhead from Space are both excellent. Robot is only okay but it actually works in a meta-sense because it feels like a leftover Pertwee story only with this new, entirely different Doctor in his place. Castrovalva is just kinda weird, The Twin Dilemma is terrible, Time and the Rani is awful, the TV movie is a mixed bag. Day of the Doctor is technically a regeneration story and it is excellent, I really like The Christmas Invasion, The Eleventh Hour is superb, the back half of Deep Breath is really drat good etc. Basically the regeneration stories were only really bad during the nadir of the Classic Show's run.
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Chokes McGee posted:The logistics of this will be interesting as The Doctor hasn't changed genders before. Why has he changed now. Obviously we know the show production reasons but his previous 13 regenerations were all male, for someone who is supposed to have poor control over his next form, he should have been a woman earlier surely?
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Jerusalem posted:I've watched this show all my life and I can't even imagine how somebody could be a fan and still think,"No everything has to stay the same forever or it's not going to be any good!" Well come on now, you watched the Tennant years and how certain nerds refused to admit Tennant was talented because women found him attractive. This is in the same vein. Also, if you really want to freak out these peope just say that clearly the free market has determined that women are a better market to cater to the future. Our glorious system of (government backed) capitalism is thriving!
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Jodie Whittaker's great, looking forward to the next series. I wonder if we will get a solo male companion as a corollary or if they keep the two companion thing going. Matt Lucas was barely in the first few episodes of this series but I liked when they brought Nardole along.
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Just remember before making your fanart that these initial promotional costumes will never appear in the show.
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okay now that I have a sec let me take a look at the announcement vide--- okay well I'll be in an induced coma until next series try not to let Trump end the world in the meantime
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Dehry posted:Just remember before making your fanart that these initial promotional costumes will never appear in the show. To be fair, I always thought that he looked pretty good like that...
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Sad King Billy posted:Why has he changed now. I think the idea is while they can, and do, swap sexes during regeneration there's a bias towards the original template. So white dudes are more likely to regenerate into white dudes and black women are more likely to regenerate into black women etc.
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Dehry posted:Just remember before making your fanart that these initial promotional costumes will never appear in the show. God, I remember all the wailing and gnashing of teeth when that came out. Everyone was panicking that Doctor Who had gone full Twilight.
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It looked like she was wearing Capaldi's outfit (or a variation on it) in the video, like a just after regeneration thing.
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I hope there's going to be some funny meltdowns about this because people going "political correctness hurrr" and "sjw!" is going to get old super fast.
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I love it when there are two companions. It adds a lot to the dynamics of the thing. Doesn't hurt that Nardole was an adorable egg man. e: For all we know it'll be an actual decision of the Doctor's to be a woman for some internal reason this time around. The last story had him airily telling Bill that Time Lords are beyond gender biases and then the Master getting all weirded out about Missy, so who knows? I'm guessing some Time Lords have a strong preference and some don't.
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That's the impression I got. It's just a reveal video and probably not going to be incorporated into the episode in any way, but it does feel like it's intended to show her as freshly regenerated and still wearing the previous incarnation's clothes. The key appearing in her hand, the taking down of the hood, the walking towards the TARDIS etc all seem designed to state as heavily as possible,"This IS the Doctor." I knew I liked Eddie Robson for a reason (well, two reasons, the other being he writes really good Doctor Who audios!)
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I have to admit that the idea of a woman as the Doctor seems strange to me but I'm not drowning my keyboard in tears as I type this. I'm perfectly willing to admit that I'm an old stick in the mud who is used to his old set routines and probably doesn't adapt as well to change as other people. One thing the show hasn't done though is show a far future humanity where gender change is a very casual process indeed, The Culture novels I have read show that changing sex is similar to trying on a new set of clothes, a relatively smooth process that is a unremarkable facet of everyday life.
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Slowpoke! posted:I hope they don't just hand wave this away as something that happens all the time, because statistically speaking it's really unlikely for you to regenerate 12 times into a man if it really is 50/50 that you'll be a woman. No reason it has to have been a 50/50 chance. Time lord gender is just a spectrum of possibilities. Getting some real horrific racism coming out of people who are then turning round and being all 'male tears'. Women, sort yourselves out.
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Spalec posted:https://twitter.com/CFCTWEET__/status/886610238819885056 Isn't that essentially Superman? Also, they did it with Thor so...
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