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Valeyard posted:Huh, he wrote the pilot? Go figure He wrote a ton of the first two seasons (and also an extremely bad two parter for Doctor Who), but he's also written some good episodes, and the first season of Broadchurch was really, really good. I'm guessing that his run as showrunner will be a little darker, but if he focuses on character and not on sex gas, it should be okay. I was concerned about him, but Jodie Whitaker is really such a good choice. I haven't seen any of her comedy work (she's done some), but she is definitely an excellent dramatic actor with a lot of range.
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Maxwell Lord posted:Not sure who it was saying it but in this thread I heard a lot of "They're gonna get another David Tennant type to try and get the ratings back up". It was me because I was stupid and believed rumors. I was wrong and I am very happy that I was wrong.
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Jul 16, 2017 18:43
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Bicyclops posted:It was me because I was stupid and believed rumors. I was wrong and I am very happy that I was wrong. Sure, I bought it into completely because it seemed so plausible. Anyway. Scenes from an alternate Whoniverse, no. 2: 1992 (UK version): The Sixth Doctor examines the remains of the Master. 
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Jul 16, 2017 18:47
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happyhippy posted:What happens if a pregnant Time Lord regens into a male? That's how looms get born
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Chokes McGee posted:It seems like it varies depending on the person. Some of them don't seem to care (Romana's nickname aside because holy poo poo even time lords aren't saying that every time) and others just make up something austentacious like THE MASTER or THE WAR CHIEF or whatever. I look forward to when Romana returns as a bloke called Fred.
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Bicyclops posted:It was me because I was stupid and believed rumors. I was wrong and I am very happy that I was wrong. I actually did think it more likely that they'd cast a young, attractive man of color than a woman, but this is a good choice.
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Jul 16, 2017 18:52
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happyhippy posted:What happens if a pregnant Time Lord regens into a male? Probably the same thing that happens when any pregnant woman's body endures some kind of intense and horrible trauma. Or an ectopic pregnancy, I guess. The real answer is: nothing, because it will never come up.
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Jul 16, 2017 18:55
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The only thing that brings me down about this is that I wish Verity Lambert had lived to see it.
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Jul 16, 2017 18:55
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I always thought that the Time Lords would be big into eugenics and growing babies in a lab myself.
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Jul 16, 2017 18:56
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To be honest, nothing says Whittaker can't play the Doctor as another dashing hero, Tennant-style.
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Good luck to Jodie! I liked her in Broadchurch, but her grieving and angry parent role didn't give me much chance to see some of the other goofy and fun bits she will be tasked with, which come with the Doctor from time to time. Guess I'll need to also watch Attack the Block, since I've been meaning to watch that at some point to catch more John Boyega. I'm really curious what her style/look will end up being, since that's also fairly tied into each Doctor. A dress? A suit? Wonder if 12 will regenerate in the presence of 1, allowing for 1 to offer some sly and positive remarks about his future. Now that they're doing this, I wonder if they'll bother introducing the Valeyard into the mix. Man the talk on that would be hilarious, i.e. 12 regenerates into two separate bodies, one into the Valeyard, the other into 13. You then have people talking about the "maleness" of Doctor being purged out or something.
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Jul 16, 2017 18:58
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I'm thinking she's going to whine and cry 100% less than the last four male doctors.
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learnincurve posted:I always thought that the Time Lords would be big into eugenics and growing babies in a lab myself. That's why I liked the idea of Looms--it was the ultimate expression of how ossified and apart from the life of the Universe the Time Lords were. They play better as being dusty old academics who are locked away from reality, mired in pointless ceremony and titles, than being actual people who live and love and have babies. It highlights why the Doctor would leave.
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If she was good in Broadchurch, I might have to finally check it out. It's been on my Netflix watchlist for a while.
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Cojawfee posted:If she was good in Broadchurch, I might have to finally check it out. It's been on my Netflix watchlist for a while. It's really good but it's relentless.
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learnincurve posted:I'm thinking she's going to whine and cry 100% less than the last four male doctors. I kind of want to see someone recreate the Ultimate Maudlin Scene of Doctor Who, in which the Doctor stands in the pouring rain after Donna gets her memory wiped, with the Thirteenth Doctor now. She'd really nail it. Does anybody have any comedy clips? She's been in at least two comedies, but I can't seem to find anything that focuses on her. (It's better than when I searched for clips of her in Broadchurch; the first result was someone who had compiled all of the clips in which a character discusses her pregnant belly  )
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Astroman posted:That's why I liked the idea of Looms--it was the ultimate expression of how ossified and apart from the life of the Universe the Time Lords were. They play better as being dusty old academics who are locked away from reality, mired in pointless ceremony and titles, than being actual people who live and love and have babies. It highlights why the Doctor would leave. It works in the reboot canon. The boys all living in some sort of home outside the city, the parents maybe visiting like Victorians who hand over the babies to nannies, then private schools, and having them brought to them for a visit when it was convenient. All the ones who end up vaguely normal get the hell off the planet asap.
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https://twitter.com/pointlesslettrs/status/886631391458447360
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Craptacular! posted:As America's center-left crumbles away, I sometimes find myself on the right of Tumblr-generated cultural issues like this (but still on the left of actual important social issues). But wouldn't you know it, my world did not end. Pretty sure there were females in television shows before tumblr was invented, champ.
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In "older Doctors chiming in" news: https://twitter.com/4sylvestermccoy/status/886648080753451008
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Jul 16, 2017 19:18
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 I started with Nine and have seen a little of all of them I just hope the writers understand and write for the Doctor, not a man or woman
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Jul 16, 2017 19:21
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This would be a great time to release another Bluray of the 50th anniversary special with the new Doctor added in to the end.
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Jul 16, 2017 19:26
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Jodie Whitaker posted:I want to tell the fans not to be scared by my gender. Because this is a really exciting time, and Doctor Who represents everything that’s exciting about change. The fans have lived through so many changes, and this is only a new, different one, not a fearful one. She already seems like she knows what she's taking on, which makes me happy. Plus, she's friends with David Tennant, Matt Smith, Christopher Eccleston, and David Bradley! I wonder what clips of the show they'll have her watch.
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Jul 16, 2017 19:26
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So, predictions of Twelve's last words? Twelve: poo poo....can't get that....Lily Allen song....out of my head!
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Jul 16, 2017 19:28
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Mind Loving Owl posted:So, predictions of Twelve's last words? Thirteen's first words: "Oh, this again..." The freakout would be incredible.
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Vinylshadow posted:
To me that's the way to do it. I know some people will tell me as a man I don't get what sexism or being a woman is about when I say this, but I think it shouldn't be acknowledged in the show at all. They've gone through great pains in the past few seasons to show Time Lords don't really acknowledge or care about gender, and it would be a mistake to go back on that. Maybe it comes up sometimes when she visits some patriarchal society but there's been plenty of times the Doctor has been poo poo on by the Powers That Be in any time or on any planet, so that she could piledrive her way through. But the extent of the "now am a Woman" stuff should be left with The Master's dumb jokes in the last episode. To me, that would do a lot to erase the doubts of the people freaking out that Doctor Who Has Been Ruined Forever--if they tune in and it's recognizably the same show, same character, doing the same things. I mean, we've had the whole "you're an attractive person. Probably" bit from both 4 and Missy--it's been well established that Time Lords just don't give a gently caress about gender, sexuality, attractiveness, etc. Or what they do see is something else entirely.
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Timby posted:Thirteen's first words: "Oh, this again..." "I haven't been blonde since I was a hundred and eighty!"
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Mind Loving Owl posted:"I haven't been blonde since I was a hundred and eighty!" Suddenly, all life as we know it stops simultaneously and every molecule in our bodies explodes at the speed of light.
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Yeah, I said this in the spoiler thread, but I think the only acknowledgement should be in the quick check every Doctor does post regeneration and should be relegated to a comment that's basically just "Oh. Oh! Well, about time. Anyway, wasn't I in the middle of something? Oh, right, [impending crisis]!" After that, she should just be the Doctor.
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That's actually the one thing I didn't like about Missy. There was absolutely no reason she couldn't have been called The Master. It's not like they're going to say, "Well, I couldn't very well keep calling myself The Doctor, now could I?"
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Bicyclops posted:Yeah, I said this in the spoiler thread, but I think the only acknowledgement should be in the quick check every Doctor does post regeneration and should be relegated to a comment that's basically just "Oh. Oh! Well, about time. Anyway, wasn't I in the middle of something? Oh, right, [impending crisis]!" After that, she should just be the Doctor. Yeah, she just looks in a mirror, goes "Huh, that's new... Oh, right, the Daleks!" *dashes around TARDIS console slapping buttons and levers*
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Jul 16, 2017 19:59
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Thirteen's new nickname is Dissy. Also remember that the Master's latent misogyny won't go away because she's now a woman.
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jivjov posted:Pretty sure there were females in television shows before tumblr was invented, champ. I only refer to Tumblr simply because that site is the go-to characterization for "so progressive that it hurts" punditry. There's been a bunch of efforts lately to elevate women in properties that were predominantly watched by men, this Doctor and Rey from Star Wars being the two most notable in the sci-fi genre. It is the kind of thing that will generate arguments if only because productions that are made predominantly for women have certainly not been on the decline in recent years (Girls, Big Little Lies, Orphan Black, and some would say OITNB) so it's not like the industry forgot women exist. But obviously, this next season should be taken separately from that and hopefully there are some non-dreadful episodes. I say that because I've been watching frickin' Class as "TV on in the background" filler the past two days and it pains me that while it isn't great it is nowhere near as bad as what Chibnall has written so far for Who.
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TinTower posted:Also remember that the Master's latent misogyny won't go away because she's now a woman. OK, that's a good point.
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Craptacular! posted:I only refer to Tumblr simply because that site is the go-to characterization for "so progressive that it hurts" punditry. Everyone who says this has read the Tumblr screenshots they post on imgur. It'd be like taking SA's pulse by collecting all of the most transphobic posts in any given week from GBS. Tumblr is a medium for blogging and the people on it range from (probably fake troll) "Nobody should ever talk about food because it is triggering" to actual, legitimate, self-admitted neo-nazis. In an age where Reddit caved to The_Donald and a huge portion of Twitter is bots, it's actually one of the better platforms out there. It was also purchased by Yahoo (and has since mysteriously stopped posting on its official account about net neutrality, surprise, surprise), so the idea that it's some kind of leftist paradise gets even more preposterous. Anyway, the idea of casting women in important roles is one that does actually matter, sorry you think it's beneath you, and Daisy Ridley owns in the new Star Wars.
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Bicyclops posted:Everyone who says this has read the Tumblr screenshots they post on imgur Yes, I know. And there's also a shitload of porn. I can say that for certain. And maybe, kind of, and no. I'm really not a big fan of the third trilogy, but that's for reasons beyond any casting. It feels more focus-tested and less organic. (Edtied to add context because I shouldn't post when eating) Craptacular! fucked around with this message at 20:19 on Jul 16, 2017 |
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I'm holding out hope that with Thirteen being a woman this means a few more of her regens from here on out will be female too and that this isn't just a one shot kind of thing. It opens the doors to a whole world of actresses that would just nail the role.
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I wish the haters would just admit "yes, I'm a huge sexist and I hate it when women are in things I like" instead of blustering around acting like the character of the Doctor has ever hinged on "having a space dick" in the past.
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I am excited by the choice for the new Dr. Who I also continue to be baffled by what socially conservative fans are actually getting out of the show
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