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| The Big3 Tourney |
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67 | 22.41% |
| Will Lakers draft Ball |
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40 | 13.38% |
| Where will the Pauls go |
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54 | 18.06% |
| Will LeBron jump ship to the Spurs or ?? |
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41 | 13.71% |
| Will every team in the league just pivot towards tanking |
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97 | 32.44% |
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Apparently the kid is a 16 year old Trump supporting Boston fan Dwight's doing God's work
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Jul 16, 2017 23:05
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EvanTH posted:Kurt Thomas That game where Kurt Thomas with a broken fuckin foot beat the Jazz by himself to keep the Knicks in the playoffs (2013) was one of my favorite-ever regular season Knicks games. I can't immediately find a good summary of The Kurt Thomas Game so instead here's a video I liked from 2000ish. Even sings a bit of Passin' Me By at the end, that's two songs in one (I think the hanging upside-down then flipping back is also a visual quote from the Passin' Me By video) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WotkQ6vFuGw EvanTH fucked around with this message at 23:09 on Jul 16, 2017 |
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Jul 16, 2017 23:07
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Spacebump posted:That team was no fluke. If they didn't have injuries during the season (especially Dirk), they would have been respected more going into the playoffs. However many people were being lazy and following the media narrative that we were going to get LAL vs Miami. Follow me on this one. This post made me google the Mavericks 2010 roster which made me notice that they had Steve Novak on their team which made me think he had a ring but in actuality he was cut midway through the season which made me google him and this picture came up and I thought it was hilarious 
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Jul 16, 2017 23:11
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Also Brian Cardinal got a ring on that team and this is his picture 
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Jul 16, 2017 23:11
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Doltos posted:They were all old and that championship team was a fluke anyway You don't win a championship as a fluke. Especially not against LeBron James Spacebump posted:They didn't trade anyone, they simply didn't resign Chandler, Barea, Butler, and DSteve. I will give you not resigning Chandler and Barea was a terrible move. Losing Butler and DSteve wasn't. Turns out Cuban attempting to collude with CP3 and Dwight was a bad idea. I was also combining letting J-Kidd walk in the same year, but that was a year after, oops. Still seems bizarre not to try to maintain that core, even though they were aging.
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Jul 16, 2017 23:17
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straight up brolic posted:Nurkic wasn't even that good in the small sample of games that he was good for Portland and he's constantly injured. Looks pretty good to me? https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/n/nurkiju01/gamelog/2017/ Especially that final stretch. That's a big pile of Ws and +s. Averaged 15/11 over the last 10 games
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Jul 16, 2017 23:24
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Edit nevermind Denzel wore some corny Balenciaga sneakers I thought he was wearing the special adidas Zipster twos modified for paul zipser's extra bones Dejan Bimble fucked around with this message at 23:32 on Jul 16, 2017 |
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Jul 16, 2017 23:28
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EvanTH posted:You don't win a championship as a fluke. Especially not against LeBron James JKidd told Cuban and Dirk he was coming back, then stopped answering his phone, and signed with the Knicks. This is why Cuban doesn't like Kidd anymore. Not that it mattered that much, Kidd was bad after that. Terry left the same time Kidd did. He spent half his last season with the team writing CTC on his shoes and telling any reporter that would listen Cuban needs to cut the check/give him a big deal.
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Jul 16, 2017 23:33
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Doltos posted:They were all old and that championship team was a fluke anyway They let Tyson Chandler walk because they didn't want to give him a four year deal. He went on to have the 10th most WS of all players over those four years. Ooops. Letting Jason Kidd, Caron Butler etc. leave was fine, but if they just kept Chandler and Dirk together they would've stayed a title contender.
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Jul 16, 2017 23:35
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Rockets continuing to pile em up https://twitter.com/ChrisBHaynes/status/886706610575245313?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet Good for their defense for sure
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Jul 16, 2017 23:38
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EvanTH posted:None of that makes sense man. They've historically done the wrong thing so it's only right to keep doing the wrong thing? "Throwing under the bus" is the dumbest phrase on the planet. Thanks mid-00s Reality TV for the rise of that one. Most of the current situation is because of his no-trade clause. Blame Dolan, Melo or Phil Jackson for that. Blame Melo for being a terrible player who squanders all of his talent by playing like a loving moron. It is only your opinion that they acted wrongly, not theirs, as the recent TMJ deal illustrate, they continue to not reflect and learn. I brought up Allan Houston, untouchable in the FO per Griffin rumour, as an example of how they did not learn from that very similar situation. Don't know your what your distaste of the bus phrase is, just saying, Melos been that way for years, and is suddenly under attack this year after noah, rose, Oakley, Phil all made the NBA point and laugh. Phil is gone, Knicks coulda easily push it all on him, but they didn't and continue to try and move Melo, so someone still there is the driver. He's the one thats gonna be humiliated that Melo can do whatever he wants, right in front of him. This is office politics, and has already driven one person to be fired, so maybe its a thing. It is also only your opinion as to Melos value, the knicks think differently, or he would already be traded. There wouldn't be rumours of attempts at reconciliation. To prostrate and curtsy is to submit. Melo wants the respect he feels is due him for the past year's transgression. how was that not clear?
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Jul 16, 2017 23:45
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Melo being a negative player isn't my opinion--it's a statistic. Spacebump posted:JKidd told Cuban and Dirk he was coming back, then stopped answering his phone, and signed with the Knicks. This is why Cuban doesn't like Kidd anymore. Not that it mattered that much, Kidd was bad after that. well, Kidd was really really good for the Knicks the first 1/3rd to 1/2 of the year, actually lead the league in 3p%, then he remembered he's a bad shooter, finished out shooting like .270 from three (0-19 from the field on all shots in his last 9 playoff games) then retired but man, Chandler won the DPOY the very next year and set all-time league records for Ortng (which appears to be heavily skewed towards ORBs, but a put-back is incredibly efficient offense, and the Knicks shot 10% better from three when he was on the floor because he's so dang canny and also my favorite player) https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/off_rtg_yearly.html
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Jul 16, 2017 23:50
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EvanTH posted:Melo being a negative player isn't my opinion--it's a statistic. I won't dig them up but my posts from when the Mavs didn't resign Chandler were very angry. What a dumb move by Cuban.
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Jul 16, 2017 23:56
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I remember Cuban offered a 1 year 20 million dollar deal which seemed fair, I dunno.
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Jul 16, 2017 23:57
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For what it's worth, in retrospect I don't think Dallas would have won any championships had they tried to keep everything together. They may have seen the writing on the wall and tried to roll the dice and failed.
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Jul 16, 2017 23:57
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Mbah a Moute on a vet min deal seems like a quiet but really good pickup for Houston. Hes not a world beater or anything but he is useful depth to have.
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Jul 17, 2017 00:00
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Cool Buff Man posted:Rockets continuing to pile em up Trevor Ariza is low key playing a lot of minutes/games for a 31 year old. Hopefully w/ the added offensive firepower and some minutes from PJ Tucker+Luc Mbah a Moute, they can spell him and better cover up the gaping defensive wound that is Harden+Gordon+Anderson
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Jul 17, 2017 00:02
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If Chandler didn't have a bad toe when he took his physical oh so many years ago Dallas wouldn't have won a title. Makes you think
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Jul 17, 2017 00:04
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Lockback posted:For what it's worth, in retrospect I don't think Dallas would have won any championships had they tried to keep everything together. They may have seen the writing on the wall and tried to roll the dice and failed. As others pointed out Chandler not getting resigned was a bad move. I still think their championship was flukey because of how powerful all the other title contenders were that year. Dirk played like a HoFer (like he does every season) but especially so in those playoffs. That team was a powerhouse during the season too but I'd bet on the Lakers or the Heat to win the chip that year 9 times out of 10.
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Jul 17, 2017 00:08
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chunkles posted:Trevor Ariza is low key playing a lot of minutes/games for a 31 year old. Hopefully w/ the added offensive firepower and some minutes from PJ Tucker+Luc Mbah a Moute, they can spell him and better cover up the gaping defensive wound that is Harden+Gordon+Anderson he was #19 in the nba in minutes and was the only rocket last year who could defend a 2,3 or 4 worth a poo poo, had tough defensive assignments almost every night. And his durability can't last forever. Really happy to have other players who can defend.
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Jul 17, 2017 00:10
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Spacebump posted:I won't dig them up but my posts from when the Mavs didn't resign Chandler were very angry. What a dumb move by Cuban. I can imagine they were. Everyone knew how important that guy was, if he left, then they were done going to the finals.
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Jul 17, 2017 00:11
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"Throwing someone under the bus" is a pet-peeve of mine. First, it grew in prominence during the Writers' Strike when a bunch of reality TV contestants (aka The People Broadly Accepted As The World's Worst And Dumbest) would use it 5 times an episode to indicate someone else callously trying to gain advantage over them. Naturally it spread like cancer. AND In and of itself, it's either a terrible metaphor, or a completely misused one. People utilize it as if it's a variation of "throwing someone to the wolves," but there's no self-preservation in throwing someone under a moving bus. There's no implication that you remove yourself from harm's way by doing it. It's just murdering another pedestrian using a passing extant force, no obvious advantage gained. In fact, you're probably going to go prison if you do it since it's implied there are witnesses on the city street. A bus driver, at the very least. It's a moronic phrase from morons, by morons, for morons. Spacebump posted:I won't dig them up but my posts from when the Mavs didn't resign Chandler were very angry. What a dumb move by Cuban. I wanna see 'em it sounds like you knew what you were talkin' about 
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Jul 17, 2017 00:12
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G-Hawk posted:Mbah a Moute on a vet min deal seems like a quiet but really good pickup for Houston. Hes not a world beater or anything but he is useful depth to have. They may have also got him for a potential Ariza trade.
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Jul 17, 2017 00:17
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You are wrong, the implication is that a bus is going to run you over, so you throw someone under it as a speed bump granting you time or derailing its path completely.
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Jul 17, 2017 00:17
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Femur posted:You are wrong, the implication is that a bus is going to run you over, so you throw someone under it as a speed bump granting you time. Ah, yes, a thing that only makes sense if you're not thinking or if you're terrible at thinking. A great phrase to identify oneself as a moron.
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Jul 17, 2017 00:21
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EvanTH posted:Ah, yes, a thing that only makes sense if you're not thinking or if you're terrible at thinking. A great phrase to identify oneself as a moron. I don't know, would a bus driver not stop upon running someone over, saving yourself? makes complete sense to me. Morons employ this tactic, which you admit the knicks are. checks out to me.
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Jul 17, 2017 00:24
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Kibner posted:They may have also got him for a potential Ariza trade. i don't think ariza is at all likely to move, certainly not in a Carmelo deal. Obviously there could be some sort of other deal out there where trevor ariza is hardly gonna be a deal breaker. But i think its just bench depth.
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Jul 17, 2017 00:27
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Lockback posted:For what it's worth, in retrospect I don't think Dallas would have won any championships had they tried to keep everything together. They may have seen the writing on the wall and tried to roll the dice and failed. Keeping Chandler and getting a point guard better than old Jason Kidd would have kept them in the argument. Metapod posted:If Chandler didn't have a bad toe when he took his physical oh so many years ago Dallas wouldn't have won a title. Makes you think It makes me think that OKC team doctor shouldn't be a team doctor. Doltos posted:As others pointed out Chandler not getting resigned was a bad move. I still think their championship was flukey because of how powerful all the other title contenders were that year. Dirk played like a HoFer (like he does every season) but especially so in those playoffs. That team was a powerhouse during the season too but I'd bet on the Lakers or the Heat to win the chip that year 9 times out of 10. Lol at the 11 Lakers beating the 11 Mavs 9 times out of 10. The Mavs swept them so badly that Phil Jackson decided he couldn't compete anymore and retired from coaching. The Mavs were simply better than every other team that year. A team with Pau Gasol on it can't beat a team with Dirk on it in the playoffs. edit: The one team that I think would have given the Mavs a good series that year is the Bulls. DRose would have eaten their guard rotation alive. Spacebump fucked around with this message at 00:34 on Jul 17, 2017 |
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Jul 17, 2017 00:29
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Wait, are we seriously claiming that putting someone in front of you a whole foot or two will prevent you from being hit by a moving bus? And that a moving bus can stop on a dime once the driver hits the brakes?
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Jul 17, 2017 00:30
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Pre-Harden Morey probably woulda flipped Ariza on the end of this contract for sure, but it seems like he's changed philosophies and the teams who'd want a Trevor Ariza rental wouldn't have much to give anyways. Besides I finally just came to terms with Trevor Ariza and accepted him for who he is, I don't want him to leave  https://streamable.com/5pcu9
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Jul 17, 2017 00:32
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The Lakers were fully healthy with both Bynum and Pau, they had no excuses and still lost badly.
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Jul 17, 2017 00:33
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Yes, the bus will flip and fly over your head. are you saying a pile of people would not stop a bus? In the metephorical situation, melo is a pile, in stature. Also, bus driver could also feel guilt for hurting unrelated, his bloodlust could be sated, or a splat would make the driver pay attention. or you use the inertia to be swing out of the way. so many uses. we're all making assumptions about this bus. Femur fucked around with this message at 00:40 on Jul 17, 2017 |
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Jul 17, 2017 00:35
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Doltos posted:As others pointed out Chandler not getting resigned was a bad move. I still think their championship was flukey because of how powerful all the other title contenders were that year. Dirk played like a HoFer (like he does every season) but especially so in those playoffs. That team was a powerhouse during the season too but I'd bet on the Lakers or the Heat to win the chip that year 9 times out of 10. You believe the Lakers would, in a majority of cases, beat a team that in actual fact swept them with a 56 point margin in only 4 games even when they were totally healthy, and that they would also have beaten the Thunder and Heat approximately ever. As an alternate theory I propose that you are delusional
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Jul 17, 2017 00:37
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DeimosRising posted:As an alternate theory I propose that you are delusional Arguing with someone that said no one will remember Ali
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Jul 17, 2017 00:40
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DeimosRising posted:You believe the Lakers would, in a majority of cases, beat a team that in actual fact swept them with a 56 point margin in only 4 games even when they were totally healthy, and that they would also have beaten the Thunder and Heat approximately ever. As an alternate theory I propose that you are delusional Maybe I'm remembering it wrong but the Lakers, Spurs, and Thunder all looked way better than the Mavs going into the playoffs and a lot of people expected the Mavs to get beat in the first round. The Mavs swept the Lakers but that was a big surprise, not an expected outcome.
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Jul 17, 2017 00:41
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the rockets rotation as it stands: Chris Paul James Harden/Eric Gordon Trevor Ariza/Luc Mbah a Moute Ryan Anderson/PJ Tucker Clint Capela/Nene D League/Trade/fill out the bench fodder: PF Zhou Qi C Chinanu Onuaku C Tarik Black PF Cameron Oliver SF Jarrod Uthoff PG Isaiah Taylor PG Bobby Brown* not signed yet You done good Morey. I like the team even if there are no further trades, obviously swapping Anderson out for Melo would be nice.
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Jul 17, 2017 00:43
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Femur posted:
Need to change it to "one ice skater throws the other skater under the bus"
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Jul 17, 2017 00:49
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lmao at someone getting legit mad at someone using the bus toss metaphor.
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Jul 17, 2017 00:53
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Q: you are Carmelo Anthony and you are stuck in space with an asteroid headed straight for you. How do you get out of it's path? A: throw your top hat in the direction opposite you wish to go Q: you are Michael Sweetney. How close to the speed of light must you be traveling to fit into your rookie year uniform A: ?
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G-Hawk posted:the rockets rotation as it stands: Thats a pretty good line-up, Morey has done really well as usual.
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