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Willa Rogers posted:and dem scum literally allowed president lieberman to singlehandedly reject medicare expansion, which would have avoided the state-by-state rejection of medicaid expansion. Reminder that they actively facilitated his electoral victory over a Democrat who primaried him
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gradenko_2000 posted:Cathy Ryan ranting about the evils of universal healthcare in Sum of All Fears should have tipped us all off. Like I said, that's where the books stopped being just fun dumb escapist spy thrillers and became dedicated rightwing gunwank (which though present previously, hadn't been nearly as overt). Thoguh posted:And in the following book he spent several chapters advocating a flat income tax. Even high school me was weirded out by that. And having Iran annex Iraq following a palace coup against the unnamed dictator who was clearly a Saddam stand-in, which didn't turn into a nightmare and for which the surviving Iraqi military just sorta shrugged and said, "enh, we Muslims are all evil after all, so let's give it a chance."
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Rainbow Six was the first Clancy I ever read and it was meh. It was on a Bill Clinton reading list one summer and I got it cheap at Borders. A decade later I finally read Hunt for Red October and it's an actual good book. I see why Clancy made money off it.
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my favorite part of rainbow six was when they left the eco-terrorists in the middle of a jungle with nothing and treated it like poetic justice by favorite I mean 
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Jul 17, 2017 03:26
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For me it's a tie between Red Storm Rising and Cardinal of the Kremlin. Without Remorse was fun in a dumb, "Death Wish" sorta way.
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otoh reagan recommended red storm rising to thatcher "in order to gain an understanding of the Soviet Union's intentions and strategy."
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Jul 17, 2017 03:27
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as much as clancy jacked off the military he got plenty back for glorifying them to the extreme
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The idea that people in power read Clancy and take it seriously scares me.UHD posted:my favorite part of rainbow six was when they left the eco-terrorists in the middle of a jungle with nothing and treated it like poetic justice Yeah you can just imagine Clancy had that ending and was smirking the entire time while pounding away at the keyboard. Checkmate, environmentalists 
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Captain_Maclaine posted:For me it's a tie between Red Storm Rising and Cardinal of the Kremlin. Without Remorse was fun in a dumb, "Death Wish" sorta way. I'm also going to make a shoutout to Clear and Present Danger for not being such a cheerleader. It wasn't flattering towards the War on Drugs, it wasn't flattering towards the intelligence community and how it conducts business vis-a-vis Congress and the Presidency, and the story hardly ended on a positive note
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Rand alPaul posted:The idea that people in power read Clancy and take it seriously scares me. His books always carried an element of "fuckos getting their just desserts," which only got worse as he went along in the 90s. Like in Executive Orders the climax of the book is now-President Ryan murdering the head of Iran's supreme council with a smartbomb strike which he has broadcast live on cnn, and the rest of the world is all like, "Enh, he had it coming for that ebola thing."
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who is the 21st century clancy that trump has on his night table?
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gradenko_2000 posted:I'm also going to make a shoutout to Clear and Present Danger for not being such a cheerleader. It wasn't flattering towards the War on Drugs, it wasn't flattering towards the intelligence community and how it conducts business vis-a-vis Congress and the Presidency, and the story hardly ended on a positive note Yeah that one is kind of an outlier, now that you mention it.
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rudatron posted:what's the title in reference to
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never read any tom clancy but i have read the turner diaries which seems like ideology enough
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hasnt posted a video since last year.  rip
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Darkman Fanpage posted:who is the 21st century clancy that trump has on his night table? 
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I imagine after clancy got popular some general visited him and was all "hey uh... you write a good piece making us look cool and we'll let you ride in a military helicopter we'll throw in a cool aviator jacket too"
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UHD posted:I imagine after clancy got popular some general visited him and was all "hey uh... you write a good piece making us look cool and we'll let you ride in a military helicopter we'll throw in a cool aviator jacket too" Near the end of his life, he started getting lots of gigs as an expert on various bits of schlock the military channel put out, in which he'd invariably wear a bomber jacket and aviator shades.
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UHD posted:I imagine after clancy got popular some general visited him and was all "hey uh... you write a good piece making us look cool and we'll let you ride in a military helicopter we'll throw in a cool aviator jacket too" 
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Jul 17, 2017 03:44
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tom clancy loved valor stealing with hats
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Jul 17, 2017 03:46
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just the fuckin picture I was thinking of too
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Jul 17, 2017 03:54
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UHD posted:my favorite part of rainbow six was when they left the eco-terrorists in the middle of a jungle with nothing and treated it like poetic justice that was after hunting them with infrared sensors so it was a turkey shoot. like... for a compelling story you're supposed to not make the 'good' guys invincible... Rand alPaul posted:The idea that people in power read Clancy and take it seriously scares me.
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gradenko_2000 posted:I'm also going to make a shoutout to Clear and Present Danger for not being such a cheerleader. It wasn't flattering towards the War on Drugs, it wasn't flattering towards the intelligence community and how it conducts business vis-a-vis Congress and the Presidency, and the story hardly ended on a positive note I've only seen the movie and yeah Jack Ryan is basically a whistleblower that takes down the presidency .
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stealing valor is cool and i do it every time i go to harris teeter
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got any sevens posted:that was after hunting them with infrared sensors so it was a turkey shoot. like... for a compelling story you're supposed to not make the 'good' guys invincible... well yeah he had a military to jack off
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Didn't like three quarters of rainbow six have nothing to do with the main plot? I seem to recall them dealing with random acts of terrorism with no connection to the hippies making super plague in the background
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Jul 17, 2017 04:13
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Darkman Fanpage posted:who is the 21st century clancy that trump has on his night table? The staff of Highlights For Kids
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Trump can't read
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Willa Rogers posted:by expanding the federal single-payer program (medicare) instead of the state single-payer program (medicaid) or by federalizing medicaid. so it's not gonna happen, then
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got any sevens posted:that was after hunting them with infrared sensors so it was a turkey shoot. like... for a compelling story you're supposed to not make the 'good' guys invincible... * Red Storm Rising predicted the development of a Stealth Fighter and the shortage of smart weapons in a shooting war. Both happened by the Gulf War. The F-117 was all sharp angles rather than the smooth gentle curves of RSR's F-19 Frisbee, but then you get to the B-2 and the prophecy is complete. * Hunt for Red October looked at the possibility of a magneto-hydrodynamic drive as a "silent" alternative to normal submarine propulsion. It never caught on because the tech was never powerful enough to be used in ships beyond prototypes, but it was proven to be workable. Also, Red October talked about the inner workings of current subs in such detail that the story goes that the government sent a couple of guys to talk to Clancy to ask how he got the information on A Thing. When he asked which Thing it was they were asking about, they said it was classified. * The Sum of All Fears had a disclaimer that enough of the details on how to make an nuclear weapon had been changed or omitted that it couldn't be used by the reader themselves. But! He got burned in Rainbow Six. Apparently at the time he was writing it, someone was shopping around the prospective technology for a "heartbeat sensor", which was supposed to be able to detect human heartbeats across walls and poo poo. It was later proven to have been completely bogus, basically akin to the guy that sold mine detectors to the Iraqis which were just glorified divining rods, but not before Clancy had already written about it in R6. It would indeed have been completely "overpowered" had it been true, but now the only traces of it are in the Rainbow Six video games, which carried them over from the book. got any sevens posted:WarGames made Reagan calm down his ww3 rhetoric. Raskolnikov38 posted:Didn't like three quarters of rainbow six have nothing to do with the main plot? I seem to recall them dealing with random acts of terrorism with no connection to the hippies making super plague in the background
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Raskolnikov38 posted:Didn't like three quarters of rainbow six have nothing to do with the main plot? I seem to recall them dealing with random acts of terrorism with no connection to the hippies making super plague in the background I think so yeah it's been a while you could explain it as building up the badasses before they take on the mean ecoterrorists but that might be giving clancy too much credit
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Srry bout the Jimmy-Jimmy, but the guy he's interviewing is cool and good. I esp. like his points on small business, since I find most of Bernie's responses to that issue very troublesome. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3s2INSZnSA0
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Darkman Fanpage posted:who is the 21st century clancy that trump has on his night table? Joh Ringo! 
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Darkman Fanpage posted:who is the 21st century clancy that trump has on his night table? 
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Venom Snake posted:The donor class is very much not united right now as it dawns on them that the democrats can't actually follow up on any of their promises if they can't win The thing many people don't understand is that while both the Democratic and Republican parties represent the interests of the wealthy, not all wealthy agree with one another. So basically Republicans are the party of "Particularly malicious/FYGM and/or socially conservative wealthy people" and Democrats are the party of "Socially liberal wealthy people who at least care about stuff like poverty on an intellectual level." Of course, it is still a huge problem that our political leadership mostly just reflects the interests of the rich, but a lot of people fall into the trap of assuming that the rich all think the same stuff. Of course, the fact that only rich people have a heavy influence on politicians means there are certain ideas they do almost universally share, with the most obvious being an opposition to any policy that would actually significantly negatively impact them financially or threaten the position of the rich relative to the rest of society. So Democrats might be willing to increase taxes on the rich a bit, but never to the extent that would actually cause a significant shift in the portion of wealth the rich control relative to the rest of society.
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maybe you are right but gently caress that eat the rich
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gently caress the rich then eat them
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UHD posted:maybe you are right but gently caress that eat the rich Hey nothing I said indicates we shouldn't still eat the rich!
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