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And most of the time the comps are just mirror comps of the same meta over and over.
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i want blizzard to publish statistics on the odds of a player loading into a map and immediately leaving i bet the 2cp maps get it the most
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Jul 15, 2017 15:53
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Slime posted:i want blizzard to publish statistics on the odds of a player loading into a map and immediately leaving
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Jul 15, 2017 16:01
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wit posted:When horizon went live the first 2 or 3 times it showed up in comp the match was cancelled due to cowardly defenders. well it's a lovely map but in comp both teams play both sides so they each get to experience the poo poo
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Jul 15, 2017 16:05
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Slime posted:well it's a lovely map but in comp both teams play both sides so they each get to experience the poo poo I don't think its a lovely map at all, but yeah psychological advantage seems to be a huge deal in THE FUN ZONE. Also, if the first round is a stomp then you get bizarre changes in team comp to stop the other guys from ever setting foot on objectives rather than defending really well because suicide contesters are a thing when you've just got 1/3 capture to do.
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Jul 15, 2017 16:42
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Pharah Mercy isn't being run by most teams in the Shanghai group stage because maybe they don't run that comp well. EVER THINK OF THAT SMART GUY ON BNET FORUMS.
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Jul 15, 2017 23:59
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teagone posted:Pharah Mercy isn't being run by most teams in the Shanghai group stage because maybe they don't run that comp well. EVER THINK OF THAT SMART GUY ON BNET FORUMS. I mean dive is superior to it anyway. There are a couple of maps where it works out well but it doesn't help if your team is dead due to burst.
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Jul 16, 2017 00:27
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Bolivar posted:The Korean casters seem to be doing just that. The best part about the GSL is hearing the Korean casters going loving nuts in the background of the english stream.
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Jul 16, 2017 16:04
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tried to watch that world cup but their technical was a stuttery mess, and whoever was in control of the camera was worse than a simple AI. They would switch to someone doing nothing but walking down a hallway and then right as they engage and start shooting at someone else they'd switch again. The casters were better but hoo boy it does not inspire faith
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Jul 16, 2017 17:19
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Even as a filthy casual who don't spend that much time on OW, is there any point going into competitive or should I just stick to quickplay? Just popping into a match and being a good Mercy is my jam.
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Jul 16, 2017 22:37
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Zedsdeadbaby posted:Even as a filthy casual who don't spend that much time on OW, is there any point going into competitive or should I just stick to quickplay? Just popping into a match and being a good Mercy is my jam. you get a separate form of ingame currency for winning games in competitive, plus some end of season rewards depending on which tier you ended out in (everyone gets currency, a spray, and an icon, but top 500 get a special icon and animated spray). the currency is used for buying golden guns for the heroes. the golden gun works with every skin so you just need one per hero (you couldn't buy a second for the same hero anyway even if you wanted to) if you don't care about that stuff, you don't need to play comp but the ruleset is a little different for the maps so try it out
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Jul 16, 2017 22:42
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Downsides: People take it more seriously, therefore people get toxic. More pressure, therefore less relaxing. Upsides: People likely to try and achieve the objectives more generally. Better matched games in theory. Winning can be fun.
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Jul 16, 2017 22:47
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Zedsdeadbaby posted:Even as a filthy casual who don't spend that much time on OW, is there any point going into competitive or should I just stick to quickplay? Just popping into a match and being a good Mercy is my jam. I'd strongly suggest doing your 10 placements with goons. Any time people see an unranked player in their team the odds of someone getting salty and leaving jump through the roof. After that, see what your placement rank is like. A lot of people sit happy enough at the rank they're given, others like me pick at it like a scab. Comp play styles are very different and as a mercy you need to understand that you are the thing everyone wants to kill all match.
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Jul 16, 2017 23:27
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It's worth doing the 10 placements each season so you can get the auto-points from whatever tier you are assigned so you can eventually get your golden Mercy stick. Mercy's golden weapons look rad. You can also play it to get matched with people around your skill level, whereas in qp and arcade you can be matched with nearly anyone, like silvers vs. masters/gms. In theory you might get fewer people wasting games pretending they are elite widows. People seem to be going berserk this season about throwers/leavers, I haven't played comp since  so I can't comment, but Blizz says they are releasing new punishments for that soon.
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Jul 16, 2017 23:29
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It's kind of crazy that even at the higher levels the streamers I watch play at, there seems to be no shortage of leavers.
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Jul 16, 2017 23:50
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You can leave 2-3 games every 48 hours with no real penalty, so lots do when they're tilting. Even if it's a disconnect your chances of getting back in time is pretty low, I would bet a lot of leavers are disconnects that couldn't instantly get back to the menu in time. I've sent Jeff a lot of perfumed letters asking for backfill with loss immunity ala titanfall 2 but he hit me with a restraining order 
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Jul 17, 2017 00:11
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Competitive is just a better mode. You get to do both attack and defend on those maps and koth maps require three wins. These are correct options and the other modes are worse for not having them.
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Jul 17, 2017 00:17
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ToastyPotato posted:It's kind of crazy that even at the higher levels the streamers I watch play at, there seems to be no shortage of leavers. The latest thing seems to be asking for a QoL to admit defeat from blizzard. Shameful and would be totally exploited by grinding for easy wins to balance instant, painless losses. Just make the rank badges stickers you can buy in the store for these people, they don't care about winning at all, just the appearance of being a winner.
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Jul 17, 2017 00:23
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ToastyPotato posted:It's kind of crazy that even at the higher levels the streamers I watch play at, there seems to be no shortage of leavers. Yup, its anecdotal of course (personal experience) but its gotten worse as the game has gone on because there isn't really a punishment for leaving/loving with other peoples games.
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Jul 17, 2017 00:41
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kater posted:Competitive is just a better mode. You get to do both attack and defend on those maps and koth maps require three wins. These are correct options and the other modes are worse for not having them. Alternately this makes for long, irritating games with no ability to leave if you don't like your team, especially on koth (though at least koth can't end in draws).
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Jul 17, 2017 01:03
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the games being longer does mean that comp is a bigger investment, but if you don't like your team then just mute them. you don't need to engage with the other players
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Jul 17, 2017 01:06
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Manatee Cannon posted:the games being longer does mean that comp is a bigger investment, but if you don't like your team then just mute them. you don't need to engage with the other players It feels like a better investment of time because nobody is going to fall back on "oh well, we only lost because we were just messing around" and victories actually feel really good. On the other hand, you will get dipshits that shouldn't be in comp trying that exact line when they have a temper tantrum.
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Jul 17, 2017 02:02
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you still have to keep playing with your team whether or not you mute them
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Jul 17, 2017 02:04
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Jesus I really hate Doomfist's skins. About the ones that aren't a chrome nose-bone away from being a problem are Cauton and Irin.
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Competitive is definitely more toxic this season (at least in gold). My personal hypothesis is that it's because of school being out for the summer holidays.
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Montalvo posted:Competitive is definitely more toxic this season (at least in gold). My personal hypothesis is that it's because of school being out for the summer holidays. hmm interesting theory. I know that during school months people claimed that it was better to play during the week either in the middle of the day or late at night for this same reason. **there is nothing worse in this game than having what is obviously a 12 year old kid start blabbering over the voice coms. And not because I think they are stupid or anything, it just makes me question what I'm doing with my time
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Jul 17, 2017 05:00
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Montalvo posted:Competitive is definitely more toxic this season (at least in gold). My personal hypothesis is that it's because of school being out for the summer holidays. Yep. Thats what I think it is as well. Oh well. Not a whole lot to be done about it I guess.
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I know before blizzard said the majority of the playerbase was in plat, but I wonder if that's still the case now. I remember people saying it was a lot more difficult to climb this and last season due to a combination of things like less people playing, the people still playing getting better, and the general meta. On the other hand, I also remember people saying that people in masters/gm were especially bad compared to previous seasons so who knows, I guess.
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Bare in mind that its a new meta for everyone and people are trying to keep up, its harder for everyone. Although its kind of annoying that I have to keep coaching people on how to dive. Genji doesn't go in first unless you can nanoblade and he can hit someone isolated, but that won't stop people from trying.
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dogstile posted:Bare in mind that its a new meta for everyone and people are trying to keep up, its harder for everyone. Although its kind of annoying that I have to keep coaching people on how to dive. Genji doesn't go in first unless you can nanoblade and he can hit someone isolated, but that won't stop people from trying. If someone goes Winston and I feel like playing someone flanky I usually just pick Tracer and go in with him if I can, since I am both useless as and don't have the patience to learn to Genji. Just following Winston around and going in when he does.
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Wrist Watch posted:I know before blizzard said the majority of the playerbase was in plat, but I wonder if that's still the case now. I remember people saying it was a lot more difficult to climb this and last season due to a combination of things like less people playing, the people still playing getting better, and the general meta. They never said that. They said the average MMR was a little over 2300, which is still in upper gold, and means the majority of the playerbase by definition cannot be in plat. e: https://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20753625906
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Jul 17, 2017 12:06
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Do they have bots in online matches? Sometimes in chat you get really obviously canned messages, and I've seen the same ones multiple times. I don't see any button shortcuts for those kinds of messages in controls. Perfect punctuation and everything, even though the player names are like xxxlegolasxxx or whatever. Reminds me of botchat in the old Unreal games.
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Zedsdeadbaby posted:Do they have bots in online matches? Sometimes in chat you get really obviously canned messages, and I've seen the same ones multiple times. I don't see any button shortcuts for those kinds of messages in controls. Perfect punctuation and everything, even though the player names are like xxxlegolasxxx or whatever. Reminds me of botchat in the old Unreal games. It's not bots, it's just a program that inserts a canned line of text when you press a button. They used to be really popular in DotA clones, and Overwatch isn't that big of a leap from there.
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Zedsdeadbaby posted:Do they have bots in online matches? Sometimes in chat you get really obviously canned messages, and I've seen the same ones multiple times. I don't see any button shortcuts for those kinds of messages in controls. Perfect punctuation and everything, even though the player names are like xxxlegolasxxx or whatever. Reminds me of botchat in the old Unreal games. There's a chat filter that changes "gg ez" into embarrassing lines.
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Montalvo posted:Competitive is definitely more toxic this season (at least in gold). My personal hypothesis is that it's because of school being out for the summer holidays. I concur with your summer vacation theory. I have every other Friday off with and usually play an hour or two of comp mid morning/early afternoon and have enjoyed doing that for many months. About mid June it stopped being fun. Most games consist of a 3-4 silent DPS stacking Hanzo, Genji, widow, and Tracer. They won't communicate, they're awful at the game, and they won't switch characters. To this I compare the months leading up to summer vacation that were filled with other chill adults similarly enjoying their day off.
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Tenebrais posted:There's a chat filter that changes "gg ez" into embarrassing lines. That actually makes tons of sense! A lot of it is at the end of a match.
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Jul 17, 2017 12:49
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Zedsdeadbaby posted:That actually makes tons of sense! A lot of it is at the end of a match. Yeah that's what it is. Now dipshits have more fun being able to spam walls of text from two letters.
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Jul 17, 2017 13:48
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Tenebrais posted:There's a chat filter that changes "gg ez" into embarrassing lines. well that would explain some of the weird crap i've been seeing
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Wildtortilla posted:I concur with your summer vacation theory. I have every other Friday off with and usually play an hour or two of comp mid morning/early afternoon and have enjoyed doing that for many months. About mid June it stopped being fun. Most games consist of a 3-4 silent DPS stacking Hanzo, Genji, widow, and Tracer. They won't communicate, they're awful at the game, and they won't switch characters. To this I compare the months leading up to summer vacation that were filled with other chill adults similarly enjoying their day off. Yeah, this is pretty close to my experienced. My SR started tanking in mid to late June, concurring with a severe dropoff of teammates with voice comms (this is particularly necessary on PS4). I ran into a group of other adults playing last night and my SR shot up like 100 points after a series of really easy wins. 
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wit posted:Yeah that's what it is. Now dipshits have more fun being able to spam walls of text from two letters. the wall of text spam is still fun, especially if you've just been stomped the real dipshits will add spaces or spam gg ez over multiple lines so they can make sure everyone understands how ez it was
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