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I never enjoyed playing Rehgar much but I think it's undeniable he still gets the job done. Like Uther and Malfurion I could pick him blindly whenever I want a support.
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He's kind of like Varian in that he's flexible in which role you want, he can be super healer, or he can be a decent healer with damage on top. Both his ults are decent in different ways. Ghost Wolf is amazing for mobility, chasing, mana regen (with Feral Heart).. his kit is real good.
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Jul 17, 2017 12:23
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Dragongem posted:Any tips on how to play Rehgar? I'm trying to brush up on my other supports since Malf got a bit nerfed. I just feel so utterly useless as him though- I can't heal fast enough with my Q, my R is effective sometimes but unlike Malf it doesn't feel like I can make the sick plays to change a game, so my team just flails around dying. How do I play him so he makes a difference? BrianBoitano posted:Bite butts solo camps watch this video on repeat until it sticks: Taking the "give yourself a shield when you give anyone a shield" is your secret to solo'ing Bruisers crazy early. Drop a totem on the Bruisers, shield the totem, watch as everything melts under double shields ticking damage. You can still solo bruisers without it if you want to take something else at 1, just a little bit later. Likewise, dropping a totem into the middle of a minion wave and shielding it will clear that wave and give you xp while you go do other things or stand in safety. This works whether you have the talent or not. Rehgar can solo Siege as soon as they spawn with pretty good speed and relative safety, if your lanes aren't losing and you don't think there is someplace you can push it over the edge or save a tower you are a good person to do mercs. Very very helpful when you're on ateam without an Illidan, Samuro, Sonya, or any of the many merc camps. You pretty much should never die short of getting chain stunned thanks to wolf form. Biting butts is fun but it is almost never worth trading Rehgar. Bloodlust can win fights occasionally, but Ancestral will stop you from losing fights a lot more. I pretty much only take Bloodlust when paired with a Tyrande and another AA hero. Rehgar isn't that hard to play once you learn a couple of his little quirks, the rest is just having good situational awareness to soak/merc at the right times and positioning to make sure you use his mobility to full effect.
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BrianBoitano posted:psst From a ways back but on beginner AI? The adept ai opponents were smarter than my adept ai allies.
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420 bite butts eryday
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Jul 17, 2017 15:10
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frakeaing HAMSTER DANCE posted:Yep. You can do things yourself like jump in front of teammates and drink to soak big incoming hits (Chen is Li-Ming's bane in this regard) but if they just sit around dumbly while you drink and soak damage you will lose. I still keep dying as Chen... I feel like he has no disengage. Is this normal?
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Jul 17, 2017 15:19
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Rehgar is probably my favorite support to work with, especially if I'm playing any kind of AA-reliant hero. Archon + Bloodlust wins fights outright, by the way.
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If you really want to know how to play Rehgar better, I can't recommend following this guide enough.
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Power Bottom posted:Rehgar is probably my favorite support to work with, especially if I'm playing any kind of AA-reliant hero. Archon + Bloodlust wins fights outright, by the way. Yes, but what happens when they just drop a ring of frost/starfall/slowing sands/any aoe at all and run away?
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Jul 17, 2017 16:05
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Bloodlust gives movement speed... Starfall and Sands only partially offset the bonus, and that sweet on-reaction Ring of Frost that's going off 2 seconds from now ain't hitting jack poo poo.
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Jul 17, 2017 16:26
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Paranoid Peanut posted:I still keep dying as Chen... I feel like he has no disengage. Is this normal? his disengage is "drink until CD is up, move 3 steps, repeat" Alternately, jump kick a wall or a minion that will get you out of harm's way. Going through, rather than back can be a viable escape!
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Jul 17, 2017 16:52
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Brewmaster's Balance gives you regen and movement speed at 50/100b brewskis. Sip time, douse, fire breath, run for it.
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Another option is to go the donkey kong build which lets you lob kegs at range over and over. Hilariously good against melee with no gap closers, decent against ranged targets with low hp. https://www.icy-veins.com/heroes/talent-calculator/chen#26.0!421.22. You spend less time in melee than at range which looks a little awkward but it gets your job done of keeping the enemy off your backline.
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Jul 17, 2017 17:34
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Chen seems fun as hell when you can setup the barrel to just push someone out of position into your team and murder the gently caress out of them. Gul'dan, KT, Jaina, Malf, and laser Azmo can all basically get hosed unless their team is aggressive about stopping you.
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Bogart posted:Brewmaster's Balance gives you regen and movement speed at 50/100b brewskis. Sip time, douse, fire breath, run for it. It's on the same tier as Bolder Flavor though, which is sooooo good.
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Don't even pick Chen if you're not going brewmaster's balance.
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Eraflure posted:Don't even pick Chen if you're not going brewmaster's balance. 
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Where can I find the best build for any given hero?
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Otherkinsey Scale posted:So over the last few days I've been getting weirdly regular lag--every three seconds or so it stutters. It doesn't seem to be affecting any other game as far as I can tell, just HotS. Is this like a known issue? Dragongem posted:Any tips on how to play Rehgar? I'm trying to brush up on my other supports since Malf got a bit nerfed. I just feel so utterly useless as him though- I can't heal fast enough with my Q, my R is effective sometimes but unlike Malf it doesn't feel like I can make the sick plays to change a game, so my team just flails around dying. How do I play him so he makes a difference? He's also good at soaking a lane by dropping a totem in it, shielding it then running off to help in another lane. Also always take the shield on shield talent. That's how you wind up actually keeping dudes alive, not chain heal. Chain heal is more sustain/help with chip than actually a way to save a dude getting pummeled. That's part of why I always take his heal ult, I just get nervous having a support without an answer to burst. He does require a team that knows they're best off spreading damage around/not always letting the tank get hit though. In the same way a team needs to know someone like Malf or BW can't do too much when someone is focused. Coolness Averted fucked around with this message at 19:01 on Jul 17, 2017 |
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No, seriously, Brewmaster's Balance is really good too. Take Bolder Flavor if you have a team that knows when to capitalize on you going in and soaking damage, take Brewmaster's Balance when you don't.
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lucifirius posted:Where can I find the best build for any given hero? Icy Veins Good for a general description of how a character works and why. The only downside is some characters don't have any good players who still like them (or blizzard will just leave them in the dumpster for months) so a guide might be outdated compared to the current meta. But in general I like it, since there'll be explanations in the talent page about why the author suggested or doesn't suggest something. So once you know the basics of the game you can sometimes evaluate if the advice still holds true. hots logs What many people will suggest, in a "See? Go by what folks win with!" way. Just be careful and don't take the stats as gopsel since a build may be winning or optimal in high-end play but worthless to you or your team-comp. Or bad players can cargo-cult onto a good build and tank its rating. It's a useful tool, but I'd avoid blindly following it. Grubby also keeps a list of his preferred builds at any given moment which are worth checking out but you'll again run into "These are builds a high end player loves, and he might do well in spite of them, not because of them" -or that once again counter a meta that's not relevant to you. Coolness Averted fucked around with this message at 19:02 on Jul 17, 2017 |
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I've been keeping these 4 tabs open on a second monitor for ages now: tempo storm's psalm guides: https://docs.google.com/document/d/169EApZPvKE38FIsaSJZsPCf9HK3CmvHTBCHwBVys4_k/preview srey's solo queue tier list and builds: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UHCxA5ITmhhufV41O1QsFvFDm61abFqsa1TfR5SePNM/preview mcintyre's tier list and builds: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tuaW9f-m7x-ukrWvgy2REb-3xnGfZ4bM0K0_4toTyPA/preview grubby's builds: http://www.robogrub.com/builds
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Onean posted:No, seriously, Brewmaster's Balance is really good too. Take Bolder Flavor if you have a team that knows when to capitalize on you going in and soaking damage, take Brewmaster's Balance when you don't. They are both good talents, I just find Bolder Flavor lets you make bolder plays. But you are right, Chen lives and dies on team quality.
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Grubby's site seemed to not actually show anything, for me.
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I usually take bolder flavor because I always accidentally cancel my drink with my garbage micro.
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frakeaing HAMSTER DANCE posted:He's kind of like Varian in that he's flexible in which role you want, he can be super healer, or he can be a decent healer with damage on top. Both his ults are decent in different ways. Ghost Wolf is amazing for mobility, chasing, mana regen (with Feral Heart).. his kit is real good. In what way is Varian flexible?
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SirSamVimes posted:In what way is Varian flexible? Tank or DPS. I mean you should play him as a tank but
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He does warrior quests and assassin quests at the same time
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Fuzz posted:Grubby's site seemed to not actually show anything, for me. You've stumbled upon the REAL best way to play hots.
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Coolness Averted posted:The two main sites Cool, thanks! I'm Gold 1 right now, got placed there, and that seems to be where my skill level is at for now.
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lucifirius posted:Cool, thanks! I'm Gold 1 right now, got placed there, and that seems to be where my skill level is at for now. A lot of the skill in this game is figuring out which heroes have a One True Build vs ones that are super variable and which talents you should be focusing on given your team/their team. Sometimes the right choice is the least picked talent because most people aren't dealing with a cho'gall/auriel/medivh combo.
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lucifirius posted:gently caress stealth heroes. But then, stealth heroes are always going to be annoying no matter how they're implemented, I suppose.
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You could just make them untargetable and not show up on the minimap, so identical to how they are now just more visible. It is an odd mechanic right now.
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Blizzard has never been able to balance stealthed heroes. Going back to vanilla WoW. For that matter, Blizzard can't balance non stealthed heroes either. Half the fun of Blizzard games is trying to figure out what class is overpowered at the time.
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gently caress there are a lot of bad stukovs out there. Like the last one I had that barely healed and mostly just stood around using lurking arm
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My favorite Stukov was the one I saw continuing to channel the arm on Cho'gall while being killed by shadow bolt volley.
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MMAgCh posted:I find the way HotS handles stealth to be pretty odd anyway, in that the whole "hope you can visually distinguish this slight Predator-style shimmer!" aspect is so markedly different from the sort of skills required by the rest of the game that it feels really out of place to me. (And God help you if your eyesight just physiologically isn't up to the task for whatever reason.) Like I can sometimes see the shimmer when I'm actively looking for it when nothing major is going on, but god forbid there's a team fight...
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SirSamVimes posted:In what way is Varian flexible? He's got a lot of variance.
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Power Bottom posted:He's got a lot of variance. 
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