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Looking at the wiki, there's no point in me doing these relic weapon quests unless I'm a giant masochist or absurd completionist, right? I just beat Ultima Weapon. e: and since I'm screwing that noise, is there an easy way to pick up a level 50 ok-ish weapon to match what I got from the level 50 class quest?
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The weapons look cool but yeah, don't do it.
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Jul 17, 2017 11:10
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bewilderment posted:e: and since I'm screwing that noise, is there an easy way to pick up a level 50 ok-ish weapon to match what I got from the level 50 class quest? i120 weapons in Mor Dhona which you can buy for poetics tomes (e3: actually getting enough tomes might be a bit time consuming, I don't remember) e: or pvp weapons if you pvp, they are cheap (one frontline roulette game takes about 10 minutes and rewards you > 1000 pvp currency which should be enough for a good weapon for level 50) e2: or maybe you'll pick one from a quest if you're still doing post-50 msq quests, I think some of them reward adequate weapons. Shy fucked around with this message at 11:23 on Jul 17, 2017 |
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Jul 17, 2017 11:12
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bewilderment posted:Looking at the wiki, there's no point in me doing these relic weapon quests unless I'm a giant masochist or absurd completionist, right? Yeah, those quests were designed to eat up hours upon hours of playtime for people in the original postgame, and still do even with subsequent nerfs. So basically, unless you think the relic weapons look pretty and want them for glamour, don't do em. Your best bet for a lvl 50 weapon is the Ironworks stuff, which should be purchasable for Allagan Tomestones of Poetics in Mor Dhona now that you've completed the 2.0 MSQ. You get Tomestones from doing roulettes and lvl 50+ dungeons/trials, but shouldn't require many at all to get the Ironworks stuff as it's been continuously reduced in price as the game moved on. Alternatively, if you're in an FC that has a full time crafter who likes you, they can probably craft you something better than 2.0 endgame lvl 50 gear for peanuts.
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Jul 17, 2017 11:40
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If you just beat the Ultima Weapon, future main scenario quests will have gear rewards:
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orcane posted:If you just beat the Ultima Weapon, future main scenario quests will have gear rewards: And further on this, the first optional dungeon of HW drops i120 gear and the first story dungeon drops i130 gear, so if you don't upgrade your weapon, you can replace it around there. If you do get to 130, you can theoretically stretch it out to the second story dungeon, but by then it starts to show its age. Hidingo Kojimba posted:Yeah, those quests were designed to eat up hours upon hours of playtime for people in the original postgame, and still do even with subsequent nerfs. So basically, unless you think the relic weapons look pretty and want them for glamour, don't do em. One of these days I'll get Excalibur. HackensackBackpack fucked around with this message at 12:56 on Jul 17, 2017 |
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Jul 17, 2017 12:51
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wow just nobody wants to do The Royal Menagerie, first time I've had over a 5 mintue wait as a healer.
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Jul 17, 2017 13:04
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I did the ARR relic quest during 3.4-3.55 mainly to get the title and the nexus kettle. It wasn't too bad (compared to what it used to be) but man is it hard on the wallet for some phases. Think I dropped a million+ on the mb to get some items that you can only get with maxed out desynth. loving desynth! Anyways the nexus kettle monk fists were 100% worth all the bullshit. As for the anima....eh. Unless you really want a different shiny glam and a minion.
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Jul 17, 2017 13:08
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UnlimitedSpessmans posted:wow just nobody wants to do The Royal Menagerie, first time I've had over a 5 mintue wait as a healer. My first DF menagerie attempt got cut short by a tank and both healers rage quitting (after both healers got dumped by the water spout). But the second DF attempt was great and cathartic with a clutch healer LB3. It's nice when the stars align and you get good random players.
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Jul 17, 2017 13:22
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Shy posted:i120 weapons in Mor Dhona which you can buy for poetics tomes (e3: actually getting enough tomes might be a bit time consuming, I don't remember) HQ i115s in the FC chest if you're in TPT.
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Mango Polo posted:My first DF menagerie attempt got cut short by a tank and both healers rage quitting (after both healers got dumped by the water spout). I just finished it and holy poo poo it owns, had 3 or 4 wipes but after that it went great, I'm pretty sure I carried the other healer who died 3 times on the final attempt.
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Jul 17, 2017 13:46
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I'd argue that if a clutch healer lb3 was required the randoms couldn't have been that good.
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Jul 17, 2017 13:53
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I feel like there should be a "so you've just hit 50/beaten the initial MSQ" guide somewhere. Right now I've been running around unlocking all the Hard Mode and level 50 dungeons and whatnot (and noping out at unlocking Crystal Tower) but other than doing each of them once to see what it's like and for poetics for gear I don't really know what's worth my time and what isn't. (other than being told to definitely do Hildibrand quests)
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Jul 17, 2017 14:03
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The best thing to do is buying the expansion tbh.
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Jul 17, 2017 14:07
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Shy posted:The best thing to do is buying the expansion tbh. Yeah I already did that so that my XP wouldn't go to waste.
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bewilderment posted:I feel like there should be a "so you've just hit 50/beaten the initial MSQ" guide somewhere. Right now I've been running around unlocking all the Hard Mode and level 50 dungeons and whatnot (and noping out at unlocking Crystal Tower) but other than doing each of them once to see what it's like and for poetics for gear I don't really know what's worth my time and what isn't. Seconded. I'm coming up on 50 for my first time and could use a guide to what to do when the time comes.
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Cythereal posted:Seconded. I'm coming up on 50 for my first time and could use a guide to what to do when the time comes. Finish ARR MSQ. Start HW MSQ.
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bewilderment posted:I feel like there should be a "so you've just hit 50/beaten the initial MSQ" guide somewhere. Right now I've been running around unlocking all the Hard Mode and level 50 dungeons and whatnot (and noping out at unlocking Crystal Tower) but other than doing each of them once to see what it's like and for poetics for gear I don't really know what's worth my time and what isn't. Crystal Tower is definitely worth it though, the Legacy of Allag attunement for Labyrinth is kinda annoying but shouldn't take more than an hour or two of waiting for the fates to pop (make sure you're clearing out other fates in the area because they can block the fate you need), but Syrcus Tower and World of Darkness are two of the best spectacles you can see at level 50. Queue times kind of aren't great for them at the moment though, but should get better in 4.1 so at least unlock them
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Whoever decided needing to camp out 4 fates to unlock poo poo was a good idea is a dick imo
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bewilderment posted:I feel like there should be a "so you've just hit 50/beaten the initial MSQ" guide somewhere. Right now I've been running around unlocking all the Hard Mode and level 50 dungeons and whatnot (and noping out at unlocking Crystal Tower) but other than doing each of them once to see what it's like and for poetics for gear I don't really know what's worth my time and what isn't. That guide would probably just be "continue focusing on the MSQ if you want to play Heavensward anytime soon, and Stormblood after that". Everything else can be a welcome distraction if you want it, but just following the MSQ gives you gear (you can always have better from eg. tomes or crafters, but it's good enough) and unlocks most of the critical features and all the important places.
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Erg posted:Whoever decided needing to camp out 4 fates to unlock poo poo was a good idea is a dick imo
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Erg posted:Whoever decided needing to camp out 4 fates to unlock poo poo was a good idea is a dick imo Well they never did it again so they probably learned their lesson. The procedural differences between the Zodiac and Anima quests is very telling in that regard.
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Erg posted:Whoever decided needing to camp out 4 fates to unlock poo poo was a good idea is a dick imo My favourite part is that the Hildibrand unlock fate is almost always up, but if you need one for beast tribes, unlocking CT or atma books, it just finished so you get to wait another hour (or more). Basically Hildibrand is the best content in the game 
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Galaga Galaxian posted:I'd argue that if a clutch healer lb3 was required the randoms couldn't have been that good. Considering the usual horror stories about incompetence in the menagerie? Getting it done in one go is good enough.
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At least the beast tribe FATEs for LotA are set to spawn quickly, so the kobold and amalja'a ones are painless (did the amalja'a one always have a sweet fire-themed pope hat? Because he does and it looks sick). The main problem is the sahagin one is at the rear end end of the zone and the ixal one is overlapped by several other FATEs (FATES *hate* touching each other outside of rare circumstances) so you have to constantly clear them out and hope the right one appears next. And then once you get attuned you can spend an hour waiting in queue for LotA to firm up. 
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I am starkly reminded of one of the Atma FATEs that is an escort quest, making it nearly impossible to solo. I keep saying to myself that I'll do another Zodiac, but then I remember crap like that and go nope!
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bewilderment posted:I feel like there should be a "so you've just hit 50/beaten the initial MSQ" guide somewhere. Right now I've been running around unlocking all the Hard Mode and level 50 dungeons and whatnot (and noping out at unlocking Crystal Tower) but other than doing each of them once to see what it's like and for poetics for gear I don't really know what's worth my time and what isn't. Start HW. I bought some HQ i115 gear off of the MB, still did GC turn ins, and try to at least hit up LDR every day. I'm level 58 and I'm halfway through 3.0; the game gives you HQ i115 and 130 gear as MSQ rewards. Don't worry about it unless if you're seriously at sub i90 after you hit level 50. I'm starting to get burnt out a lil bit, but I want to get to end game stuff and start in on crafting. I think I'm going to start either a gladiator or continue with a conjurer for LDRs because I'm going to hit 70 like 2 quests into 4.0 at this point.
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The good thing about the game is that there's not really a rush to get to level cap since all the dungeons can be level synced. I took a break for a few days and worked on my WHM class once I hit SB.
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The only atma FATE that is really hard to solo is Surprise! in Upper La Noscea, since you have to keep two NPCs alive and they stand pretty far from each other. If one goes down you get two waves of Overwhelm-using kobolds focusing on one npc and that tends to end badly. You also have to camp it since the NPCs will die almost immediately if you aren't there when it starts. There's also that FATE just south of Little Ala Mhigo that is mostly bad because it's rare and will fail within 30 seconds if nobody is there when it spawns, but isn't too bad if you actually camp it.
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Where do I find level 35-39 gathering leves?
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Mango Polo posted:Considering the usual horror stories about incompetence in the menagerie? Getting it done in one go is good enough. A lot of people aren't willing to pay sufficient attention for that to be a Trial DR, imo. It's terrible and 90% of the ones I land in are in progress and people are on the edge of despair but still aren't bothered to learn the mechanics. Shy posted:Where do I find level 35-39 gathering leves? As per the BTN/Miner guides: Level 35 Botany/Mining Levequests: Coerthas, Observatorium Level 40 Botany/Mining Levequests: Coerthas, Whitebrim EPIC fat guy vids fucked around with this message at 15:17 on Jul 17, 2017 |
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Cool thanks, I know about Whitebrim but somehow overlooked the other one.
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Thundarr posted:The only atma FATE that is really hard to solo is Surprise! in Upper La Noscea, since you have to keep two NPCs alive and they stand pretty far from each other. If one goes down you get two waves of Overwhelm-using kobolds focusing on one npc and that tends to end badly. You also have to camp it since the NPCs will die almost immediately if you aren't there when it starts. This is the FATE I was thinking of. I did my Zodiac last summer during the Yokai event so after a couple failures a FATE group passed by and helped me through it.
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I was dreading HW gathering levelling but holy poo poo collectibles + a clock for unspoiled basically gives me half a level every hour while letting me do other stuff. I hope crafting is this great as well.
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Cythereal posted:Seconded. I'm coming up on 50 for my first time and could use a guide to what to do when the time comes. 50 feels a little unintuitive, but i'm pretty sure post-50 (but pre-HW) msq gives exp now, and that's something you're going to have to do. other than that, there are four big content unlock chains you're gonna wanna do: 1. the 24-man unlocks, in Mor Dhona, that begin with an NPC called Outlandish Man. 2. the ex primals, that begin in the Waking Sands, with Urianger. 4. the bahamut raids, that also begin with Urianger with a quest called Primal Awakening. 3. other ex/savage content, that begin with the Wandering Minstrel, also in Mor Dhona (in Revenants Toll, at the Seventh Heaven or whatever) most of the post-50 dungeons are also tied to quests from NPCs around the Wandering Minstrel in Mor Dhona (they're almost all in the bar). A 50S RAYGUN fucked around with this message at 16:03 on Jul 17, 2017 |
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You don't need to do any of the 2.x endgame stuff to get into HW. The only real ublock chain is tied to the MSQ where you have to do the Hard variants of Ifrit, Garuda, and Titan.
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Do you still have to run all the dungeons it's comprised of once before you unlock 50/60 roulette? I can imagine that being a pain. I knew several people before Stormblood that never had 50DR unlocked.
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SettingSun posted:Do you still have to run all the dungeons it's comprised of once before you unlock 50/60 roulette? Nope, the queue is for whatever you unlocked
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SettingSun posted:Do you still have to run all the dungeons it's comprised of once before you unlock 50/60 roulette? I can imagine that being a pain. I knew several people before Stormblood that never had 50DR unlocked. Actually I never unlocked 50DR and was very surprised when I was suddenly eligible for all of them - previously unlocked or not.
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SettingSun posted:Do you still have to run all the dungeons it's comprised of once before you unlock 50/60 roulette? I can imagine that being a pain. I knew several people before Stormblood that never had 50DR unlocked. Nah, when I get home I'll share a screenshot of my Duty Finder window. When you get into HW, you'll find out how they do flying mounts (tag 8 spots on the map, run some Blue quests). The first area has a chain to put you into Dusk Vigil, which you can completely skip if you just do the MSQ straight through.
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