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Yep, after I finished the first level I nope'd out of there immediately and never touched it again. Unnecessary fishing minigames, the bane of all JRPGs  On the bright side though, Puyo Puyo Estelle is by far the best sprite in the game.
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Really Pants posted:are you ready 
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Jul 15, 2017 23:45
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For some reason on both my playthroughs, I cleared this entire door in one go and wondered why people raged on it so much. Maybe I was just really lucky. Aside from that, this is probably the first time Argem is mentioned, which is the name for Mirage septium. (Nohval and Goldia were mentioned in SC)
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Jul 15, 2017 23:59
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Erpy posted:For some reason on both my playthroughs, I cleared this entire door in one go and wondered why people raged on it so much. Maybe I was just really lucky. There is definitely a huge luck factor in the minigame, especially in the last round. Sometimes he just pulls out one 3.5m fish after another....
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Jul 16, 2017 00:01
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I like to imagine while Estelle is having her sewer fishing duel, Joshua's off fighting the wanted monster by himself, wondering where in the hell she is.
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Jul 16, 2017 00:06
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The thing is, while it is almost all luck based, that makes it easier as it goes on. I beat the last guy by at least 1000 points on my playthrough, first try. By the same token, the first guy took me 4 tries.
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Jul 16, 2017 00:24
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I've never had trouble with this door beyond the very first time I played this game back in like 2011 either. Maybe it's because fishing for Rainbow Trouts in SC for sepith kind of conditioned me to the timing. As long as you don't miss your reels and have a general guideline on what bait to use, the AI is usually horrible enough that even with the luck factor the allowance is really huge, even with a nigh-guaranteed big catch at the end. Which is more than what can be said for the other Sun Door.
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Jul 16, 2017 04:52
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I got to this door, played through the first round, said gently caress that, and cheated my fishing points nice and high to just blow through the next two episodes. I enjoy a fishing game on occasion, but not when it's this drat long. 
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Jul 16, 2017 05:31
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Apparantly, whenever Estelle's struggling to reel in her catch, you're supposed to continue tapping the accept button to prevent the fish from escaping. At no point does the game tell you that.
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Jul 16, 2017 14:53
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Erpy posted:Apparantly, whenever Estelle's struggling to reel in her catch, you're supposed to continue tapping the accept button to prevent the fish from escaping. At no point does the game tell you that. I tried it and although I can't say for sure, it doesn't seem to work.
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Jul 16, 2017 16:43
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Might be coincidence, but ever since I started tapping the button while reeling the heavier ones in, I haven't gotten a single case of a fish getting away from me while that frequently happened before.
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Jul 16, 2017 17:41
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I tried constantly tapping after about the 80th round of goddamn fishing and there was no noticeable difference? Maybe it has a small effect. Did you guys end up using the fisherman's emblem a lot? It didn't seem useful to me but I constantly equipped it anyways because it took so long to get.
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Jul 16, 2017 19:04
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I like to imagine that the prize effect is Estelle hooking a fishing line onto her staff and beating people with it from a distance.
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Jul 16, 2017 19:56
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Billzasilver posted:Did you guys end up using the fisherman's emblem a lot? It didn't seem useful to me but I constantly equipped it anyways because it took so long to get. It's nice for self-destruct monsters, but the MOV penalty makes it it a net loss in melee attack range and there are tons of much better accessories. Hwurmp fucked around with this message at 20:09 on Jul 16, 2017 |
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Jul 16, 2017 19:58
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I like it because it helps turn Estelle into an old school RPG character who can hurt enemies from 50 feet away
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Jul 16, 2017 20:00
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It's nice if you have footwear with high MOV value of which there are several.
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Jul 16, 2017 20:21
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Congratulations Estelle, you are now a certifiable Breath of Fire protagonist. Go fish up your end-game armor now.
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Jul 16, 2017 20:22
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next ish: the secret origin of Supreme Fisher Estelle stay tuned readers 
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Jul 16, 2017 20:38
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Poor Joshua never stood a chance  No gloomy faces allowed indeed. VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV E: Estelle's the best Omobono fucked around with this message at 21:00 on Jul 16, 2017 |
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Jul 16, 2017 20:57
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Say it with me, one more time: Estelle's the best.
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Jul 16, 2017 20:58
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If Estelle was in every other RPG she'd shorten the games by half because she is not having any of your introspective bullshit.
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Jul 16, 2017 21:19
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Along the same line of thinking, how long would the Trails games be without Estelle to force bugs on the other protagonists in an attempt to hasten their rear-hillbilly process?
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Jul 16, 2017 22:35
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"Thr Whereabouts of Light" actually inspired me to get a harmonica so I could learn how to play it. ... I'm not very good at it. 
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Jul 17, 2017 02:46
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Weissman showing up every couple weeks pretending to be a magician, honestly just reading those lines to a dark background and no accompanying visuals is actually loving terrifying.
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Jul 17, 2017 03:50
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Really Pants posted:...what kinds of bugs have webbed feet? Does Estelle count ducks as bugs? Not ducks, but the word 虫, that's usually translated as bug, actually includes all small animals that arent mammals, birds or fish. So both insects and reptiles are 'bugs' in japanese. Tamba fucked around with this message at 13:56 on Jul 17, 2017 |
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Jul 17, 2017 13:35
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I swear, this series has a way of making me misty eyed. I really love that the game has ways of showing us just how far our cast has come from the first time we've met them, or in Joshua's case, before we even met him really. Though he still had a far way to go, he was definitely pretty far from his paranoid loner status by the time we got him in FC.
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Jul 17, 2017 14:09
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Anyone who played through this door and didn't immediately pick the "...let's check for sneakers"-option deserved to have an instant game-over right there on the spot.quote:Can you name every character in this scene? Yup.
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Jul 17, 2017 14:33
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Yeah, the end of that door still gets me misty eyed too.
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Jul 17, 2017 14:55
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Erpy posted:Anyone who played through this door and didn't immediately pick the "...let's check for sneakers"-option deserved to have an instant game-over right there on the spot.
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Jul 17, 2017 16:22
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If I know my Crossbell games right, this is how those two end up helping out Lloyd, Elie, Tio and Randy in Zero, correct? Doing Bracer work abroad, as well as... something else that's an Ao spoiler?
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Jul 17, 2017 17:27
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My favorite part of this door is probably when Estelle reaches the clock tower and talks with the Mayor. It's a pretty powerful character moment for Estelle given how brief and incidental it is. The contrast between how bright and energetic her interactions with everyone else have been and the calm, almost detached manner she addresses the Mayor says everything you need to know.
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Junpei posted:If I know my Crossbell games right, this is how those two end up helping out Lloyd, Elie, Tio and Randy in Zero, correct? Doing Bracer work abroad, as well as... something else that's an Ao spoiler? Noooot quite. They actually go to Erebonia first, which is covered in a manga called Ring of Judgment.
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Jul 17, 2017 18:48
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It is adorable that Trails quietly has dudes take their wives' last names. You can pretend that you're honoring Cassius, Josh, but we know how it is. (Speaking of ladies whose guys took their name, I just binged this thread, and the fact that you guys hate Success Dancin', Mad Sciencin', Wile Coyotin' Erika Russell but love friggin' Lechter means that you have brain diseases. Is he, like, really good in the later games? Maybe by being completely different and not the worst?) Explosions fucked around with this message at 19:47 on Jul 17, 2017 |
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Jul 17, 2017 19:45
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He's kinda low-key in the Cold Steel games. Haven't played the Crossbell games, where he also appears, so I can't judge that.
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Explosions posted:(Speaking of ladies whose guys took their name, I just binged this thread, and the fact that you guys hate Success Dancin', Mad Sciencin', Wile Coyotin' Erika Russell but love friggin' Lechter means that you have brain diseases. Is he, like, really good in the later games? Maybe by being completely different and not the worst?) Um, excuse me, I think Erika is great and Lechter is really annoying. Lechter's fine in Cold Steel, but that's because he's barely there. Seriously, he's has about 5 scenes between the two games.
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I had major problems with Erika until I realized the entire continent wants to pair Tita with Agate. This includes Tita's father and grandfather. At which point I started to sympathize with Erika more.
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Billzasilver posted:I had major problems with Erika until I realized the entire continent wants to pair Tita with Agate. This includes Tita's father and grandfather. At which point I started to sympathize with Erika more. Erika would have been a lot better if she could have fought weirdness with weirdness and vented her spleen on some of those people, instead of the guy who literally took a bullet for her precious sugar donut.
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Jul 18, 2017 01:07
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A little detail in that airport scene is that even though it's been roughly half a year since the mist trouble in Rolent, Kitty's still around.
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Was Trails the 3rd rushed in development at all? I'm surprised Falcom released it without noticing such a massive bug.
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