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Serf posted:exploitation is both bad and inevitable. 'Cus people suck 'Cus no one is as pure as Ed Balls.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:counterpoint: join the DSA done joined.
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capitalism bad communism dumb socialism good there's my radical policies thanks for your time
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hella radical bro
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Gene Hackman Fan posted:suckzone.png: i hope for a future where capitalism is dead ThndrShk2k posted:Exploitation under any system where one party has a necessary need that has to be met by another party is bad and inevitable. i'm too dumb to understand the words you've posted but capitalism is directly responsible most of my problems in life so i'm pretty much against it 100%. sorry not sorry
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ThndrShk2k posted:Hot take: capitalism itself is bad yes, people are bad, but that's a problem any system has to grapple with. the problem with capitalism is that it relies on some basic assumptions that either aren't true (like "there will always be enough work for everyone, labor-eliminating measures will generate enough jobs to be a net gain") or morally unacceptable (like "access to basic necessities should depend on the value to provide to capital"). The regulatory mechanism that capitalism provides to explain many of its supposed advantages, the so-called "invisible hand", fails more often than it succeeds and is so easily subverted that it's largely a fictional mechanism. capitalism is fundamentally a broken system, one that happened to be decently-suited to the conditions of the 19th century but is largely outdated and obsolete now
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Condiv posted:it's amazing to me that we are nearing an extinction level crisis, brought on entirely by capitalism, and people are still stroking it to capitalism. it's a death cult masquerading as an uplifting ideology Nice post STALIN 
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also if we're just gonna concede that people suck and there's no way around it, why are we even talking? if people ruin everything then there's no hope and we might as well just end it all now i ain't down for that
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Serf posted:also if we're just gonna concede that people suck and there's no way around it, why are we even talking? if people ruin everything then there's no hope and we might as well just end it all now 
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Serf posted:i'm too dumb to understand the words you've posted but capitalism is directly responsible most of my problems in life so i'm pretty much against it 100%. sorry not sorry
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Jul 17, 2017 17:18
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ThndrShk2k posted:I do not disagree that people have abused and exploited the people with the US's full blown reliance of capitalism for even the needs of their basic necessities of life and modern society. great i'm glad of it
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Raskolnikov38 posted:counterpoint: join the DSA https://twitter.com/getfiscal/status/886745562263027712
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Serf posted:i hope for a future where capitalism is dead as do i, but i steel myself with the notion that it may not happen within my lifetime. that don't mean i don't try, tho. i owe it to future generations to make life easier for them than it was for me.
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Communism is the worst system except for all the others
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Raskolnikov38 posted:counterpoint: join the DSA I did but then I managed to end up costing the DSA money because people spent like $40 being buttblasted by my gangtag instead of giving more money to the DSA 
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Gene Hackman Fan posted:as do i, but i steel myself with the notion that it may not happen within my lifetime. if we're unable to defeat capitalism in the near future we may be one of the last generations of humans, so there's that. even if we do succeed the damage to the biosphere might already be too much
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i mean, i posted those images as the jokey sort of vibe going on itt that "nothing matters, everything sucks, &tc" i mean, i know drat well that's frankie boyle's entire schtick when it comes to comedy, but if we're gonna grouse, I'm okay with grousing, but gently caress y'all if you say i can't laugh about it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mISBePnLuio
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Serf posted:also if we're just gonna concede that people suck and there's no way around it, why are we even talking? if people ruin everything then there's no hope and we might as well just end it all now That's why we have a system of law that, in theory, everyone is beholden to. However throughout all of human society those that control more resources, have more influence, or are just straight up stronger, are often not beholden to that system. You make everyone equal by ensuring that everyone is treated equally under the law, currently that is not the case. You also need to ensure that there is a mechanism that those who have more, pay more.
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laugh to your hearts content man it's a great coping mechanism
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So the Macron administration met with the IMF and they concluded that lowering taxes on corporations, cutting social spending, and curtailing employment regulation is the way to go 
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Frijolero posted:So the Macron administration met with the IMF and they concluded that lowering taxes on corporations, cutting social spending, and curtailing employment regulation is the way to go congrats to le pen for winning the next election
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Speaking of garbage neoliberals, this is what candidate Hillary said about austerity last year: https://www.hillaryclinton.com/briefing/updates/2016/06/21/hillary-clinton-in-ohio-trump-shouldnt-have-his-hands-on-our-economy/ quote:We know what sound fiscal policy looks like and it sure isn’t running up massive debts to pay for giveaways to the rich. And it is not painful austerity that hurts working families and undercuts our long-term progress. It’s being strong, stable, and making smart investments in our future. So let’s set the right priorities and pay for them, so we can hand our children a healthier economy and a better future.  Hillary was going to be Macron
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hillary clinton but she's a french man that got hosed by an older woman when he was 15
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You know what voters really loving love? Concern-trolling about DEBT!
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Capitalism will save us when the free market provides the highest quality guillotines at a fair market price.
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Frijolero posted:You know what voters really loving love? Concern-trolling about DEBT! Sokolnikov had it coming.
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Frijolero posted:So the Macron administration met with the IMF and they concluded that lowering taxes on corporations, cutting social spending, and curtailing employment regulation is the way to go Finally, Europe can do what the investors want.
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:That's why we have a system of law that, in theory, everyone is beholden to. However throughout all of human society those that control more resources, have more influence, or are just straight up stronger, are often not beholden to that system. You make everyone equal by ensuring that everyone is treated equally under the law, currently that is not the case. You also need to ensure that there is a mechanism that those who have more, pay more.
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Stalin was bad
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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:Stalin was bad so is an ideology that was given a 30+ year head start on global warming and decided to spend that time enriching the rich ludicrously
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My wife just told me that she won't be taking her young classmates advice to join the ISO. I think capitalism might be around for a few more years. 
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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:Stalin was bad Well, actually
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Condiv posted:so is an ideology that was given a 30+ year head start on global warming and decided to spend that time enriching the rich ludicrously I think you'll find
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Frijolero posted:I will not respond to bad faith ad hominems dear sir. how is it that when the post you were originally replying to said that it's a problem in all forms of government, not just capitalism you mocked him for thinking that it's not JUST capitalism
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Condiv posted:so is an ideology that was given a 30+ year head start on global warming and decided to spend that time enriching the rich ludicrously I'm not saying I'm just saying We haven't figured out how to make anything else work either
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i mean, if you need one more reason why capitalism is no good, it's reason #1 fat baby trump led a life of luxury, free from worry, until he became our racist cheeto president. capitalism is why trump could fail over and over and over and over and stay insanely wealthy and eventually become the president of our nation
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