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Serf
May 5, 2011


SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:

I'm not saying I'm just saying

We haven't figured out how to make anything else work either

i'll take the uncertainty of a different system over the absolute certainty that i'll be hosed by this one

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Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


the man democrats will tell you is the greatest threat to american democracy used to hang out with our leadership on the reg. bill and hillary apparently did not find his presence disgusting enough to avoid being photographed with him. and they would still have been fine with trump if he hadn't been elected instead of hillary.

trump is awful, and our leadership is too and is part of the problem

Frijolero
Jan 24, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo

SKULL.GIF posted:

how is it that when the post you were originally replying to said that it's a problem in all forms of government, not just capitalism

you mocked him for thinking that it's not JUST capitalism

Capitalism is inherently an immoral and exploitative system, and concern-trolling about "well people should be nicer too" is incredibly idiotic.

Nobody said anything about Communism, you felt the need to drag out your tankie strawman for whatever reason.

I mock anybody who says "people are bad tho" because it's incredibly stupid, nihilistic, and divisive. Collectivism is the only way forward.

Gene Hackman Fan
Dec 27, 2002

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
"Tampa Fire Rescue initially blamed the fire from debris from roof construction earlier in the day. The construction was on a different portion of the roof.

The fire originated from one of the columns on the southwest corner of the building. The fire, which was visible throughout downtown Tampa was fueled by the light's decorative covering and frame, TFR said."


marriot hotel with p/e cladding actually catches fire, could have been a lot worse than it was.

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


Frijolero posted:

Capitalism is inherently an immoral and exploitative system, and concern-trolling about "well people should be nicer too" is incredibly idiotic.

Nobody said anything about Communism, you felt the need to drag out your tankie strawman for whatever reason.

I mock anybody who says "people are bad tho" because it's incredibly stupid, nihilistic, and divisive. Collectivism is the only way forward.

UHD posted:

capitalism sucks but any government is going to be subverted by evil people no matter the good intentions of the founders

that doesn't mean "lol nothing matters" (even if true) but that you can't ever be complacent

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012
more tim kaine quotes please

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod



i wonder if the ritz carlton is made of materials that would ignite on a particularly sunny day like lower cost hotels are?

Gene Hackman Fan
Dec 27, 2002

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
"people being stupid and evil is human nature"

"human nature is a reflection of the environment in which they live. change the environment to one where emphasis is placed on meeting the needs of those around you -- not because you can get something out of it but because they're just as human as you and you might need help yourself-- and you change the nature."

Frijolero
Jan 24, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo

SKULL.GIF posted:

weird personal crusade

lol what do you want dude?

Frijolero
Jan 24, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo

nice

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

Flip Yr Wig
Feb 21, 2007

Oh please do go on
Fun Shoe

Who is that dapper fellow supposed to be?

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




zegermans posted:

How can he claim to support Pol Pot when he himself is wearing glasses

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012

Flip Yr Wig posted:

Who is that dapper fellow supposed to be?

its a (light) edit of a garrison cartoon. it was al gore now it's stalin.

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod



oh hell yes

edit: i missed lady liberty on the tracks :bernin:

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice

Is this photoshopped or did he broken clock this one?

Gene Hackman Fan
Dec 27, 2002

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Condiv posted:

i wonder if the ritz carlton is made of materials that would ignite on a particularly sunny day like lower cost hotels are?

depends on whether the contractors handling the most-recent renovations wanted to save $5/sq.ft. or not.

Frijolero
Jan 24, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
"Capitalism is bad and all, but have you ever heard of PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY."

*Said liberals as the GOP used the same rhetoric to gut social programs*

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Condiv posted:

i mean, if you need one more reason why capitalism is no good, it's reason #1 fat baby trump led a life of luxury, free from worry, until he became our racist cheeto president. capitalism is why trump could fail over and over and over and over and stay insanely wealthy and eventually become the president of our nation

Nothing wrong with failing multiple times and I'm glad he had a safety cushion and the resources he needed to stay out of debtors prison. Now we just need to make sure EVERYONE has the same opportunity.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Other than the train not being a clean electric bullet train I don't have a problem with this.

Aurubin
Mar 17, 2011

https://twitter.com/NewRepublic/status/886988875465469954

My only window into Maryland politics was The Wire, so this article seems possibly convincing. Yay/Nay? Also Tom Perez Would have lost if he had run for governer.

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


Frijolero posted:

"Capitalism is bad and all, but have you ever heard of PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY."

*Said liberals as the GOP used the same rhetoric to gut social programs*

you misread a post and are doubling down on being a moron

congratulations

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

SKULL.GIF posted:

you misread a post and are doubling down on being a moron

congratulations

Gentlemen, gentlemen! There's no fighting in here, this is the suck zone!

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

Frijolero
Jan 24, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo

SKULL.GIF posted:

you misread a post and are doubling down on being a moron

congratulations

What happened to you dude?

You used to be cool, and then you concern-trolled over overpopulation for like 5 pages and called me a tankie for no reason.

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Aurubin posted:

https://twitter.com/NewRepublic/status/886988875465469954

My only window into Maryland politics was The Wire, so this article seems possibly convincing. Yay/Nay? Also Tom Perez Would have lost if he had run for governer.

the Aiden Gillen character is blatantly supposed to be Martin O'Malley which is hilarious

docbeard
Jul 19, 2011

Capitalism is bad, but y'all are arguing about a ThndrShk2k post.

I mean, seriously.

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 2 hours!

SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:

Stalin was bad

At least he didn't think you could feed a post-industrial population with feudalism, unlike a certain Ukrainian group.

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 2 hours!

docbeard posted:

Capitalism is bad, but y'all are arguing about a ThndrShk2k post.

I mean, seriously.

thundershart

docbeard
Jul 19, 2011

I don't put any trust in systems, but I would much rather mistrust some kind of socialist democracy than the shitshow we've got now.

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012

zegermans posted:

thundershart

gently caress off

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 2 hours!

Darkman Fanpage posted:

gently caress off

be more like your AV and less more oddly obsessed with my posting than TBS

Frijolero
Jan 24, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
shut up zergemans

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


Frijolero posted:

What happened to you dude?

You used to be cool, and then you concern-trolled over overpopulation for like 5 pages and called me a tankie for no reason.

my problems with overpopulation isn't a concern troll and I don't think you're a tankie

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012
go post about your lovely daughter in the trump thread. it's where you and your bad posts belong.

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

ThndrShk2k posted:

For non-essentials of worth what sort of economic system would be better while maintaining the agency of the individuals who produce this optional but in demand service or product?

Am I just confusing two different definitions for the term capitalism?

Capitalism isn't necessary for there to be markets. Market socialism (which isn't the same thing as the social democracies we see in the nordic states) generally involves all businesses being co-owned/managed, which avoid some (but not all*) of the exploitation we currently see.

A lot of people incorrectly assume that socialism necessarily means all industry being government owned/controlled (or just interpret it as "government doing things").

*Under such a system, business could still exploit other businesses, but it would at least prevent a situation where a capitalist ownership class dictates the actions of all large/powerful corporations (and thus the government as well).

Ytlaya has issued a correction as of 18:35 on Jul 17, 2017

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GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
tim kaine in the membrane :v:

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