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amishjosh
Jul 16, 2004
Yeah
Jesus, challenge mode just looks painful, I've got the guy for it unlocked, but I haven't been brave enough to give it a shot, dunno if I will after this.

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Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

It, like everything in the Gungeon, is designed against the player and is incredibly cruel. The Dragun will always spawn with Rage and High Stress.

The Door Frame
Dec 5, 2011

I don't know man everytime I go to the gym here there are like two huge dudes with raging high and tights snorting Nitro-tech off of each other's rock hard abs.
What are the "beneficial" modifiers supposed to be?

Zore
Sep 21, 2010
willfully illiterate, aggressively miserable sourpuss whose sole raison d’etre is to put other people down for liking the wrong things

The Door Frame posted:

What are the "beneficial" modifiers supposed to be?

I mean, Don't Blink is incredibly beneficial and basically turns 80% of the rooms into absolute freebies.

The Door Frame
Dec 5, 2011

I don't know man everytime I go to the gym here there are like two huge dudes with raging high and tights snorting Nitro-tech off of each other's rock hard abs.
I suppose it could be considered good, but with any creep related modifiers, it's a couple enemies frozen in place and a bunch of jammed enemies that you don't always have eyes on.

vdate
Oct 25, 2010
I don't believe positive modifiers are implemented yet!

Bozart
Oct 28, 2006

Give me the finger.
I'd like to suggest a run:
Wear a hat and sunglasses and make a frowny face in real life while you play.

senrath
Nov 4, 2009

Look Professor, a destruct switch!


vdate posted:

I don't believe positive modifiers are implemented yet!

This is correct.

NoEyedSquareGuy
Mar 16, 2009

Just because Liquor's dead, doesn't mean you can just roll this bitch all over town with "The Freedoms."
Surprised you made it to the Dragun given how boned you got on items in general. Not sure I agree with destroying green chests to power up Junkan, but you were scraping by anyway having to use garbage weapons like the Corsair. They buffed it a while ago so that shots curve towards enemies whereas before they just went straight and bounced around, but it still does low damage and isn't the sort of thing you want during the hassle of challenge mode. It's only worth using if you can also get the synergy with the Balloon Gun, really. Buying the glass guon stone was an obvious mistake but you ended up dying to the Dragun high stress combo anyway so I doubt it would have mattered much what you did before that point.

Felinoid
Mar 8, 2009

Marginally better than Shepard's dancing. 2/10
I feel like I need a nap just after watching the video. :stare: High Stress is aptly named.

Also the frequent clenched-teeth commentary reminded me of comedian Lewis Black.

Ghost of Starman
Mar 9, 2008
(whoops ha ha boy that sure was a lot of words about a dumb thing)

11 hours and 30-some-odd deaths, I'm contemplating modding the game a little. What would people think about boosting characters' starting load-outs w/ the things you can buy from Acquisitions:
The Pilot can always start with the Flash Ray
The Marine can start with the Hegemony Carbine
The Convict can start with the RPG
& the Hunter can start with Rocket-Propelled Bullets (maybe?);

...and what would you consider a reasonable criteria for unlocking these upgrades? (I.e., getting to a certain floor, beating a certain boss, killing that characters' past, etc.)

Ghost of Starman fucked around with this message at 20:29 on Jul 9, 2017

dscruffy1
Nov 22, 2007

Look out!
Nap Ghost
Today's run is another challenge run!

Zebrin posted:

You still accepting challenge runs? I think I have an idea for one.

The Bad Item Redemption Run
Take three of the guns you have labeled as "Bad" and then use six passive items of your choice to make them passable.
You can not pick up or use any other guns and you can not use your starter weapon unless you run out of ammo for all three.
Passive items, and master rounds are picked up as normal.

We saw how odd synergies can make the worst guns into amazing room clearing weapons of mass electrocution with the Robot and the Supersoaker. Let's give some other bad guns a chance.

I looked around for guns that I think are lousy that I can turn into machines of destruction, and here's what I've got.

Klobberin' Time/Polsy

Ghost of Starman posted:

(whoops ha ha boy that sure was a lot of words about a dumb thing)

11 hours and 30-some-odd deaths, I'm contemplating modding the game a little. What would people think about boosting characters' starting load-outs w/ the things you can buy from Acquisitions:
The Pilot can always start with the Flash Ray
The Marine can start with the Hegemony Carbine
The Convict can start with the RPG
& the Hunter can start with Rocket-Propelled Bullets (maybe?);

...and what would you consider a reasonable criteria for unlocking these upgrades? (I.e., getting to a certain floor, beating a certain boss, killing that characters' past, etc.)

I'm not sure about criteria, but the guns you start out with should both be kinda bad and thematic. The Convict might start out with Casey since it's a baseball bat and she's a mob-type criminal. Don't let my gameplay fool you, Casey is a D-rank weapon and even though I think it's REALLY GOOD it's kinda...bad sometimes? The Marine could get the basic shotgun, since it's extremely DOOM thematic.

You could give the Pilot the Flash Ray, but Flash Ray Bad. You could give the Pilot cigarettes, since he's cool and cool people smoke. As for the Hunter, either the sling or the wolf.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe
I think you're a bit too down on the Flare Gun. While it's not great it does kill most basic enemies on the first few floors with one shot (albeit with a bit of a delay), so it's a workable room clearer if you haven't got anything better.

IronSaber
Feb 24, 2009

:roboluv: oh yes oh god yes form the head FORM THE HEAD unghhhh...:fap:
I gotta admit, it was pretty cathartic seeing you completely wax the Gungeon with those weapons. Shame about the Dragun though.

Mraagvpeine
Nov 4, 2014

I won this avatar on a technicality this thick.
When that one boss turned the room dark, could you have used the Flare gun to light it up?

Cooked Auto
Aug 4, 2007

If you will not serve in combat, you will serve on the firing line!




Not sure if this is only me or not but the video seems to be stuttering pretty heavily after the 3 minute mark or so.

dscruffy1
Nov 22, 2007

Look out!
Nap Ghost

Mraagvpeine posted:

When that one boss turned the room dark, could you have used the Flare gun to light it up?

I think the flares only light up a small space around the wall they connect with, it's pretty dark man.

Cooked Auto posted:

Not sure if this is only me or not but the video seems to be stuttering pretty heavily after the 3 minute mark or so.

I see it but I'm not sure what caused it. Might be processing? Seems to clear up after a few minutes.

Cooked Auto
Aug 4, 2007

If you will not serve in combat, you will serve on the firing line!




dscruffy1 posted:

I see it but I'm not sure what caused it. Might be processing? Seems to clear up after a few minutes.

Yeah it cleared up afterwards so no biggie I guess.

The Door Frame
Dec 5, 2011

I don't know man everytime I go to the gym here there are like two huge dudes with raging high and tights snorting Nitro-tech off of each other's rock hard abs.
It really seems like some bullets (specifically from the cannonballrog) aren't stopped by guon stones at all, which is bullshit. The game breaks its own rules!

Zebrin
Mar 12, 2010

Chopping trees down and making elves cry.
Hey my "challenge" made it. And apparently wasn't so much a challenge as it was a relaxing romp through the Gungeon to recover from the real challenge mode.
Pity about the HUBRIS!!! moment on the Dragun, but hey, them's the breaks.

Jade Star
Jul 15, 2002

It burns when I LP
The Get Huge run.

Start with stout bullets, fat bullets, and heavy bullets.

You can only use the gun the fires the largest projectile.

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

Jade Star posted:

The Get Huge run.

Start with stout bullets, fat bullets, and heavy bullets.

You can only use the gun the fires the largest projectile.

I'm pretty sure that would be my favorite gun in this game, the quad laser

E: I just thought of a good stupid run. Duct tape. Use duct tape for every single gun. Smash all of the guns together.

Grapplejack fucked around with this message at 17:26 on Jul 13, 2017

Kurieg
Jul 19, 2012

RIP Lutri: 5/19/20-4/2/20
:blizz::gamefreak:
Thunder God

Raiden Coil, Space Friend, Super Space turtle, R2-Gun2, Wax Wings. (maybe the ancient hero's bandanna or something that gives you ammo)

Not sure if it'd be particularly difficult, but it would probably be fun since we rarely, if ever, see the Beam weapons used.

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

Living the Dream
You missed one of the really bad guns: The Lower Case R. I think it's shittier than the Nail Gun IMO

Jade Star
Jul 15, 2002

It burns when I LP

Grapplejack posted:

I'm pretty sure that would be my favorite gun in this game, the quad laser

Oh yes, wait yes I revise my plan:

The Mooninite Run

Fat bullets, stout bullets, heavy bullets, and the Quad Laser.
Can only use the Quad Laser. (spawn ammo/bandana as needed)
Can not dodge roll to avoid enemy bullets because Jumping is useless
Select 3(?) passive items to keep yourself alive and balance out the inability to dodge roll.
edit: Can pick up any passive drops as normal.

Jade Star fucked around with this message at 15:18 on Jul 14, 2017

ZeusCannon
Nov 5, 2009

BLAAAAAARGH PLEASE KILL ME BLAAAAAAAARGH
Grimey Drawer

Jade Star posted:

Oh yes, wait yes I revise my plan:

The Mooninite Run

Fat bullets, stout bullets, heavy bullets, and the Quad Laser.
Can only use the Quad Laser. (spawn ammo/bandana as needed)
Can not dodge roll to avoid enemy bullets because Jumping is useless
Select 3(?) passive items to keep yourself alive and balance out the inability to dodge roll.

Please do this

Godna
Feb 4, 2013
Use the teleport'y scarf and anything else that can make the bullet bigger.

IronSaber
Feb 24, 2009

:roboluv: oh yes oh god yes form the head FORM THE HEAD unghhhh...:fap:
We basically want to fill the entire room with one bullet.

Nalesh
Jun 9, 2010

What did the grandma say to the frog?

Something racist, probably.
Beehive, Jar of Bees, Honeycomb, backup gun, a couple of damage passives, and a bunch of pop pops

SugarAddict
Oct 11, 2012

IronSaber posted:

We basically want to fill the entire room with one bullet.

Both of these are valid starting runs I guess?

RickVoid
Oct 21, 2010

Only if you read as much of the Bee Movie script as you can during the run. Post commentary, of course.

dscruffy1
Nov 22, 2007

Look out!
Nap Ghost
As a special reward for completing all the shortcuts, the Tinker has one more special elevator for us.

Boss Rush/Polsy

On an unrelated note, Skippy Granola and I guested in Fiendly's podcast about LPs and video games and stuff. Check it out!

https://www.lp.zone/t/violent-waves-podcast-take-a-swim-in-the-deep-end/2191

On a final related note, the next episode of Gungeon will be the last. I'll be mixing in a few different run ideas that couldn't quite carry a run on their own, because they're all at least lightly entertaining. So stay tuned!

CirclMastr
Jul 4, 2010

dscruffy1 posted:

On a final related note, the next episode of Gungeon will be the last.

I for one am going to be very sad to see this thread end. Thanks for all the hard work showing this game off!

Glazius
Jul 22, 2007

Hail all those who are able,
any mouse can,
any mouse will,
but the Guard prevail.

Clapping Larry
30 eps is a respectable length for an LP. Thanks for demonstrating drat near everything the game had to offer and probably selling a few copies/inspiring people to play better, too!

The Door Frame
Dec 5, 2011

I don't know man everytime I go to the gym here there are like two huge dudes with raging high and tights snorting Nitro-tech off of each other's rock hard abs.
Especially for a bullet-hell rogue-like, I can't complain about ~30 hours of high quality LP. Thank you sir, and I'm definitely someone who bought the game because of this LP

zxqv8
Oct 21, 2010

Did somebody call about a Ravager problem?
Great thread, great LP. Thanks for doing it!

Be sure to link your next one here if it's coming up soon enough after you're done!

Crazy Achmed
Mar 13, 2001

Yeah, this has been super fun and I'm considering picking the game up even though I'm bad at bullet hell games. Thanks!

dscruffy1
Nov 22, 2007

Look out!
Nap Ghost
And so, I present the final video of the Gungeon thread. I hope you enjoy it!

Last Round/Polsy

If you're looking for what's next for me, I'd like you introduce you to a nice little casino.

Samovar
Jun 4, 2011

I'm 😤 not a 🦸🏻‍♂️hero...🧜🏻



That Railgun/Ring of Triggers combo...

Edit: You know, that's what this game is missing. the chance to make game-breaking combos.

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ShootaBoy
Jan 6, 2010

Anime is Bad.
Except for Pokemon, Valkyria Chronicles and 100% OJ.

Thanks for another fantastic LP Scruffy, and gently caress you for making me buy a game that I'm so poo poo at.

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